Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi all, We have a new r who mentioned something interesting. He (she?) said " I am a gardener in WA planning to grow Chinese herbs for the local market. " I'm curious as to if there are anybody else on this list who grows their own Chinese herbs. I believe that in the future, agribusiness will take a good look at medicinal herbs, or else we will generate this industry ourselves. There are many unanswered questions such as the qualities of the herbs that would change based on a different soil and growth environment. All of those herbs that begin with the word " chuan " are from sichuan province. The soil and growth environment there is such that their medicinal herbs, at least some of them, are considered the most efficacious of them all. Wonder how we'll do with the American Chuan Xiong becomes Cornhuster Xiong or Buckeye Xiong? -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > Hi all, > > We have a new r who mentioned something interesting. He (she?) said > " I am a gardener in WA planning to grow Chinese herbs for the local > market. " ed] Hi Y'all --- Coincidentally, I am also a new r in WA who is interested in growing Chinese herbs. I want to do this in part because of the contamination issues from China. Also herbs coming from China under the same name can be different species. There is also the saying among herbalists that locally grown herbs are much more powerful. We will have to figure out what grows well here. In Olympia I do not have the hot dry Mediterranean summers that produce so much essential oil in thyme and lavender. But many Chinese really like the wet temperate climate and believe it is healthful and brings good fortune. What are you thinking of growing? I wish I had planted ginseng 20 years ago when I first thought about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I myself don't have any plans on growing Chinese herbs, however there is a group that is putting together this process on a nationwide scale where little private growers can have a marketplace to sell their crops. There was an article or two about this at acupuncturetoday.com. All that I remember from that article is that it all began with Robert Newman, and now this group calls themselves " Newman's Conservancy " or something like that. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Anna <Spanglefeather wrote: > > Hi Y'all --- > Coincidentally, I am also a new r in WA who is interested in > growing Chinese herbs. I want to do this in part because of the > contamination issues from China. Also herbs coming from China under > the same name can be different species. > There is also the saying among herbalists that locally grown herbs > are much more powerful. > We will have to figure out what grows well here. In Olympia I do > not have the hot dry Mediterranean summers that produce so much > essential oil in thyme and lavender. > But many Chinese really like the wet temperate climate and believe > it is healthful and brings good fortune. > What are you thinking of growing? > I wish I had planted ginseng 20 years ago when I first thought about it! > -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hey Al, is this the article you were talking about? http://acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=31676 That article also links to http://www.localherbs.org/ Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > I myself don't have any plans on growing Chinese herbs, however there is a > group that is putting together this process on a nationwide scale where > little private growers can have a marketplace to sell their crops. There was > an article or two about this at acupuncturetoday.com. All that I remember > from that article is that it all began with Robert Newman, and now this > group calls themselves " Newman's Conservancy " or something like that. > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Anna <Spanglefeather wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yep, that's d'one. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM, mrasmm <mrasmm wrote: > Hey Al, is this the article you were talking about? > http://acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=31676 > > That article also links to http://www.localherbs.org/ > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>, > " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > > > I myself don't have any plans on growing Chinese herbs, however > there is a > > group that is putting together this process on a nationwide scale where > > little private growers can have a marketplace to sell their crops. > There was > > an article or two about this at acupuncturetoday.com. All that I > remember > > from that article is that it all began with Robert Newman, and now this > > group calls themselves " Newman's Conservancy " or something like that. > > > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Anna <Spanglefeather wrote: > > > > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 There is a good source of herb seeds including Chinese herb, too. www.horizonherbs.com I bought Ma Huang and Fu-zi there before. The Ma Huang is pretty easy to grow, but I didn't have any luck with Fu-zi, it just won't germinate. Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > Hi all, > > We have a new r who mentioned something interesting. He (she?) said > " I am a gardener in WA planning to grow Chinese herbs for the local > market. " > > I'm curious as to if there are anybody else on this list who grows their own > Chinese herbs. I believe that in the future, agribusiness will take a good > look at medicinal herbs, or else we will generate this industry ourselves. > > There are many unanswered questions such as the qualities of the herbs that > would change based on a different soil and growth environment. All of those > herbs that begin with the word " chuan " are from sichuan province. The soil > and growth environment there is such that their medicinal herbs, at least > some of them, are considered the most efficacious of them all. > > Wonder how we'll do with the American Chuan Xiong becomes Cornhuster Xiong > or Buckeye Xiong? > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Their herbs are as organic as their website! ha. So, do they include any instructions or suggested weather zones when sending out seeds or anything like that? -al. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM, gerrykuo <kzj890-wind wrote: > There is a good source of herb seeds including Chinese herb, too. > www.horizonherbs.com > I bought Ma Huang and Fu-zi there before. > The Ma Huang is pretty easy to grow, but I didn't have any luck with > Fu-zi, it just won't germinate. > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Richo Cech is great. His catalogue has may growing suggestions. His staff is great as well. A call into the office can provide a wealth of info. I personally grow about 90 medicinals here in Florida, chinese, western, african, South america and more. There is a great book out there about growing chinese herbs in the US. I have it at home if I can find it and will post in another email. The name escapes me at the moment. Be well, Bob www.acuherbals.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 They have basic instructions for each herbs on their website, some of them are very detailed, you can read it before you make your decision. In general, I think east coast will have the weather more similar to China; west coast could be too dry for some herbs during the summer. The Western Garden book actually describes how to grow Fu-zi (Aconitum carmichaelii). I think horizon grows most of their herbs themselves, so you can also ask them. Chinese Traditional Medicine , Al Stone <al wrote: > > Their herbs are as organic as their website! ha. > > So, do they include any instructions or suggested weather zones when sending > out seeds or anything like that? > > -al. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM, gerrykuo kzj890-wind wrote: > > > There is a good source of herb seeds including Chinese herb, too. > > www.horizonherbs.com > > I bought Ma Huang and Fu-zi there before. > > The Ma Huang is pretty easy to grow, but I didn't have any luck with > > Fu-zi, it just won't germinate. > > > > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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