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Dear Ones, I have been lurking for a while and I hope you can

help with my question.

 

The lady is 62 and has been diagnosed with this malady. At times she

is strong enough to rise out of her wheelchair and transfer, at other

times she struggles and fails.

 

Her disesase has been down hill for the 30 yrs that I have known

her. She did walk some when I first met her as well as wash dishes

and do some machine sewing.

 

Over the yrs. she has lost much of that ability. Mostly she just

transfers from her chair to the bed or toilet. She can dress herself,

fed herself, as well as operate a computer.

 

What is odd is 20 - 30 minutes between tries to get up she

accomplishes the effort. In between she can be so frustrated I feel

for her. Is there any help for the nerves/muscles to work better?

 

The MD's have told her the nerves feed the muscles and sometimes they

don't. Then the muscles don't work and if it continues it will die a

little at a time. So far the prognosis has been right. Is there any

way of stopping the progression?

Thanks for any help!

Sincerly, Kim

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Hi Kim,

 

Is there only weakness or twitching and numbness and any signs of internal wind?

What's her tongue and pulse say? What does she think it is? What tests were run

by her neurologist?

 

Have you considered a secondary vessel treatment?

 

Perhaps after differentiating whether a divergent, luo or extraordinary vessel

treatment is indicated...

 

Is she filled with grief or despair (or both) prior to the onset thirty years

ago?

 

I'm assuming this isn't MS or some such western label/diagnosis other than the

ABMA...

 

If there is even the slightest suspicion of adverse reactions to artificial

sweeteners with her, she must stop any intake of Nutrasweet, Splenda,

Saccharine, etc. They're are really debilitating poisons for lots of us with all

sorts of strange paralytic, neoplastic formations and nerve type symptoms. See

links.

 

http://www.wnho.net/history_of_aspartame.htm

http://www.naturalnews.com/008952.html

http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/fda_safety_study.htm

 

 

Out of my realm but some sort of chelated therapy or nutritional supplementation

to offset the deterioration.

 

Can you tell us more?

 

Perhaps privately if that's appropriate?

 

Pete

 

 

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kimmarie2124

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, May 30, 2008 10:53 PM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] atypical bilateral muscle atrophy

 

 

Dear Ones, I have been lurking for a while and I hope you can

help with my question.

 

The lady is 62 and has been diagnosed with this malady. At times she

is strong enough to rise out of her wheelchair and transfer, at other

times she struggles and fails.

 

Her disesase has been down hill for the 30 yrs that I have known

her. She did walk some when I first met her as well as wash dishes

and do some machine sewing.

 

Over the yrs. she has lost much of that ability. Mostly she just

transfers from her chair to the bed or toilet. She can dress herself,

fed herself, as well as operate a computer.

 

What is odd is 20 - 30 minutes between tries to get up she

accomplishes the effort. In between she can be so frustrated I feel

for her. Is there any help for the nerves/muscles to work better?

 

The MD's have told her the nerves feed the muscles and sometimes they

don't. Then the muscles don't work and if it continues it will die a

little at a time. So far the prognosis has been right. Is there any

way of stopping the progression?

Thanks for any help!

Sincerly, Kim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:53 PM, kimmarie2124 <scarbroughkim

wrote:

 

> Dear Ones, I have been lurking for a while and I hope you can

> help with my question.

>

> The lady is 62 and has been diagnosed with this malady. At times she

> is strong enough to rise out of her wheelchair and transfer, at other

> times she struggles and fails.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" this malady " is more of a description than a known disease process.

" atypical bilateral muscle atrophy " means " unusual loss of muscle mass on

both sides " . That says very little beyond the obvious observations.

" Atypical " can also be read as " of unknown origin " .

 

 

> Her disesase has been down hill for the 30 yrs that I have known

> her. She did walk some when I first met her as well as wash dishes

> and do some machine sewing.

>

 

 

 

 

 

Processes that last 30 years are considered chronic and for that reason are

generally assumed to be due to a deficiency of something, especially when

the result is weakness.

 

Over the yrs. she has lost much of that ability. Mostly she just

> transfers from her chair to the bed or toilet. She can dress herself,

> fed herself, as well as operate a computer.

>

> What is odd is 20 - 30 minutes between tries to get up she

> accomplishes the effort. In between she can be so frustrated I feel

> for her. Is there any help for the nerves/muscles to work better?

>

> The MD's have told her the nerves feed the muscles and sometimes they

> don't. Then the muscles don't work and if it continues it will die a

> little at a time. So far the prognosis has been right. Is there any

> way of stopping the progression?

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps. I've seen muscular dystrophy slowed and sometimes halted with

acupuncture. But this is only a symptom, and until one can see the big

picture, it is hard to make any particular statement.

 

This would be called a " wei " or atrophy or wilting syndrome. There are a few

common approaches to this using herbs, and a few others using acupuncture.

The patterns that show up from the herbal standpoint include:

 

 

1. Lung heat with damage to liquids: this is going to look like the

fatigue one feels when sick with a fever, or in the wake of a fever where

there has been a lot of sweating or fluid loss (vomiting, diarrhea, etc.)

Rx: qing zao jiu fei tang

2. Soddening by damp-heat: this atrophy may present with edema and/or

numbness. The lower limbs may turn red too. The limbs will feel heavy and

there will be an overall desire for cool temperatures over warm. Might also

see burning urination, yellow explosive diarrhea and vaginal discharge of

the turbid yellow to green type. Rx: Er Miao San

3. Spleen or Stomach deficiency: expect to also see lack of appetite,

sloppy or loose stools, puffy face, lusterless complexion. Rs. Shen Ling Bai

Zhu San. If there is also sensitivity to cold, one can add warming herbs

such as Fu Zi (Rx. Aconite) and/or Gan Jiang (baked ginger). If there is a

deficiency of both qi and blood, add huang qi and dang gui.

4. Liver / Kidney depletion: probably associated with low back pain,

dizziness, tinnitus (ringing in ears), urinary or fecal incontinence. There

are oodles of herbs and formulas for this pattern since the Kidney can lack

yin, yang, qi, or jing, or a mixture of any or all.

 

Acupuncture is also a great way to get those nerves woken up. The key

channel considered important is the " yang ming " which is the Stomach and

Large Intestine channels. Even some good strong acupressure along these

trajectories can help.

 

Now these four differentiations are (literally) the textbook examples. There

are a whole host of related factors, such as in the case of #3, if the Liver

is stressed or pissed, it can mess with the functioning of the Earth element

organs (Spleen/Stomach) and unless the Liver is calmed, the Spleen and

Stomach will not be easily strengthened. But that's not something easily

determined at this stage of the process by someone outside of the field. If

you can see a relationship between emotional stress and the exasperation of

her symptoms, that would be supportive of this issue, but there are other

signs and symptoms that would need to conform too.

 

So there you have it. If your friend is in a major metropolitan area,

acupuncture may be available. If not, herbs may be able to be tracked down.

Worse case scenario, consider a shiatsu practitioner. Their massage favors

channel trajectories and would provide your friend with a rather pleasant

therapy efficacious or not.

 

-al.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

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Hello, it has been quite some time since I posted here but would like

to make a suggestion for a Western drug which is used for MS, cancer,

parkinson's, autoimmune and other diseases. There is a group

dedicated to the use of this medication here on .

The medication is used at low dose and is off label use by doctors (

originally prescribed for heroin and alchohol addiction at much higher

doses than used for MS and these other diseases):

 

Low Dose Naltrexone

 

Many patients say this helps them tremendously to regain energy and

sometimes lost body functions. Others only slow progression of what

disease they have.

 

Still it might be worth a look/see on the .

 

Here is a web site which has a video and also some further extensive

discussion of this medication:

 

http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/

 

Here's just one little quote from this website:

 

" Animal Trials of LDN

> Research on Neurodegeneration at NIEHS Suggests a Protective

Naltrexone Role

 

J.S. Hong, Ph.D., head of the Neuropharmacology Section of the

Laboratory of Pharmacology and Chemistry at the National Institute of

Environmental Health Sciences, finds that " morphinan " drugs, including

naltrexone and naloxone, are able to reduce inflammatory reactions in

microglia brain cells in animal studies. Such inflammation is believed

to be central to the progressive neurodegenerative effects seen in

disorders such as Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s disease. Hong’s

report, summarizing the role of microglia in inflammation-related

neurodegeneration and the potential of therapy using morphinans,

appears in a January 2007 issue of Nature Reviews Neuroscience

[8(1):57-69]. "

 

best, Sarah

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