Severe allergies

[Guest guest]

Thanks Al Stone and mrasmm,

 

Yes I have Bob Flaws book and know this passage.

 

Well I was'nt thinking of how to treat severe reaction with TCM, agree

with modern drugs in this context. More I wanted to understand what is

happening in the body as per TCM.

 

I think if the authors of the Nei Jing could see us now, they would

have their own anaphylaxis shock.

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:24 PM, rose4uau <fatrose wrote:

 

> Well I was'nt thinking of how to treat severe reaction with TCM, agree

> with modern drugs in this context. More I wanted to understand what is

> happening in the body as per TCM.

>

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I understand. In China, there are emergency rooms that utilize TCM

methods, sometimes injectable herbs. This level of TCM just isn't commonly

applied in the west. So yeah, I understand your question. Seems like the

throat swelling up and preventing breathing would probably look like some

kind of phlegm stagnation issue. But I've never seen a patient present with

this, so its kind of hard to say with any authority.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I guess we could now debate what constitutes hypersensitivity. I

remember reading in Adelle Davis' book Let's Get Well where she opined

that chronic swelling of the nasal membranes (one sign of " allergy " )

has a " need to cry " as its basis. Some health writers say don't make

a big deal over causes, etc., just try feeding the patient lots of

pantothenic acid & vitamin C, and that ought to do the trick. I

recall reading that in TCM terms, Vit. B5 relieves liver Qi constraint

and also eliminates damp heat. Maybe someone here could establish

more precisely how this relates to socalled allergies.

 

Also, could a purely physical hypersensitivity, causing reactions,

actually be the internal cause of a society-wide hypersensitivity to

perceived mistreatment? I'm referring to such things as endless

lawsuits & special laws for minorities because somebody looked at you

the wrong way, etc. I think that there has to be something going on

within the body to make the mind so crazy as it is nowadays.

[Guest guest]

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Mrs. Barley <chosenbarley wrote:

 

> I recall reading that in TCM terms, Vit. B5 relieves liver Qi constraint

> and also eliminates damp heat.

>

 

 

 

 

This information is not conventional wisdom in TCM, but it may be true.

 

 

> Maybe someone here could establish

> more precisely how this relates to socalled allergies.

>

 

 

 

 

I had this patient who's allergies only kicked up now and then. At one

point, I heard him sneezing and coughing. The noise had a great deal of

vocalization, and if you were listening in the distance, you would probably

have thought that he was really angry about something and just cursing the

universe.

 

Gave him some acupuncture, he worked on his self, and the allergies calmed

down remarkably. This is an example of the Liver causing internal wind which

manifested as what appeared to be external wind. It was the sound of the

wood element (shouting) that tipped me off.

 

So, while I can't remark on the vitamins having an energetic nature from the

TCM standpoint, I can see how Liver qi stagnation can cause what will

manifest as allergies.

 

-al.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.