Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM, syriajboyd <syriajboyd wrote: > I don't know that Applied Behavioral Analysis is considered > alternative. However, I'm guessing it is fairly effective given that > ABA is becoming an emerging industry in Houston. However, I would > imagine you would have come across that already in Calif. > Regarding the autistic child, I had a brief conversation with the parent of this child on the phone the other day. I'll pass one what I told him then, which is the best that my own clinical experience has to offer. This is based on a somewhat small number of cases, but I have had the opportunity to track one of them for nine years now. So, in my experience, autism still comes down to treating what you see. This is a common issue for us working in the TCM business. We'll get someone with a Western diagnosis such as autism or OCD or stomach ulcer or whatever and the patient will ask " which herb for this " or " which acupuncture point treats that? " . Neither of these questions can be answered like that. In each case, we begin with observable (or reportable) signs & symptoms and go from there. We have to come up with our own (TCM) diagnosis. When it comes to autism, (again, in my experience) we may not be able to turn an autistic child into a " normal " child, but we can make an autistic child healthy (not such a bad goal when you think about it). According to the gentleman who began this thread, their child was given a flu vaccination at the age of two. He reports that since then, it has been all downhill and it seemed like a sudden change then and so he believes that it was the vaccination that did him in. This is a common perception among parents of autistic children. I have yet to see any reputable research study (eg. appearing in a peer-reviewed medical or scientific journal) that supports this perception, but I can report that it is a common belief that vaccinations are causing autism. I myself don't know. However the vaccination issue may have some medical significance in treating his particular child's issue. I believe that the child is now five years old. Our phone call was quick and I didn't take notes, so I could be off on this part. Because vaccinations are essentially a controlled infection to which the body needs to mount an immune response, it may stand to reason that the infectious material is still alive and well and living somewhere deep down inside of their son. In the " wen bing " school of medical thought (a subset of TCM-Traditional ), febrile pathogens (febrile pathogen means illness that causes a fever) are tracked as they move from the most superficial layer, to the deepest. They call these layers " wei, qi, ying, and xue " which translates to " defensive level, qi level, nutritive level, and blood level " . In its most simple form, one can describe the wei level heat as your common cold with a sore throat. The qi level heat is more like a flu with a high fever. What makes the ying level unique is its effect on the spirit. Think fever dreams here. The final layer and most deep is when the heat enters the blood. This causes the blood to boil out of the vessels and gives rise to bleeding or hemorrhagic fevers. Nasty stuff, that one. There are more benign expressions of all these too. For instance, " heat in the blood " can also give rise to nosebleeds in children or excessive menstrual flow in women. Not the end of the world, but something to fix eventually. Now there are some other variants of the wen bing diseases I've listed thus far. One is called " latent heat " which is to say that you've got a flu, but it's kind of bubbling beneath the surface, and only periodically makes it's presence known. This is that flu that you had last year, and you kind of got over it, but never really and so sometimes, it just comes back and you know deep down inside that it never really left. So I bring up this concept of latent heat as a possible explanation for how a flu vaccination could cause ongoing issues in a child. There's no way that I'd run to the store to find " Latent Heat Begone " because it doesn't exist. However once we know where the latent heat is hiding, then we can put out that fire. Sometimes, even often, it is wrapped up in dampness which makes it somewhat impervious to one-dimensional therapies. It may need a few different formulas to first dry the damp, then clear the heat... then this, then that. You get my point. It can be somewhat complicated. Again, this is just a theory that I'm throwing out there. I can't honestly see how latent heat would have such an effect on the spirit to the point where one is labeled " autistic " . However if all this stuff began with a flu shot, you gotta wonder. Theory #2: his son was autistic, but until the child reached the age in which other cognitive faculties should have arisen, it was undiagnosed. Just a thought, don't know either way myself. In either case, we still would try and get the child as healthy and balanced as possible. Autism is one of those things, like so many others, that provide a real challenge early on, but once the necessary changes in expectations are made, a decent life can arise from their specialness. This is of course really easy for me to say, not having an autistic child. But we all have our challenges in life, and those who live well tend to roll with the punches and even use them to our advantage somehow. Speaking of which, there is another treatment principle in TCM that says " to treat the child, treat the mother. " I told him that having an autistic child WOULD be easier if both parents were also seeing to their own needs and that to treat their child, it would be wise to get them treated as well. He understood the inherent wisdom in that, so I'm sure that he'll follow up on that on his own time. Finally, I would add (somewhat connected to the mother/son thing) that autism parents are EASY TARGETS for unproven (dare I say " alternative " ) therapies of all kinds. They are such easy targets that the FDA considers dietary supplements that claim to treat, cure, mitigate, or diagnosis autism to be against the law. They say: Parents of autistic children can be desperate and provide easy targets for unproven therapies. The FDA's article on this topic mentions marketers of dietary supplements for autistic children who contend that their products promote more complete food digestion, thereby preventing neuro-toxic molecules that contribute to autism. The FDA calls this a false and unsupported claim. Source: http://www.fda.gov/oc/nutritioninitiative/report.html Funny too, because the first thing I did was asked about his son's bowel movements. I have heard from my patients that when their autie kids poop firm up, their consciousness was more clear. However I'm not doing it for any neuro-toxic whatever. TCM has well-established mechanisms such as poor digestion causes dampness. Dampness congeals into phlegm. Phlegm mists the Heart orifices and causes the cognitive aspect of autism. While these statements wouldn't fly in the biomedical community, any trained TCM person would understand exactly what I'm talking about. Anyway, our autistic child's family lives in the SF bay area. I'm in L.A., so maybe we'll have a chance to hook up, or maybe not. Perhaps there is someone else on this list who services the SF bay area who could make their presence known. -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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