splenda

[Guest guest]

I am incensed by the claims on product labels that announce an item as being

" healthy " when it contains sucralose or aspartame, but I get even angrier when I

see a food or beverage described as " all natural " even though it has these

additives.

 

I was at the grocery store today looking for a bottled, fruited water or tea to

have with my lunch, something that was just spring water or tea with some real

raspberry or mango or whatever in it for a touch of flavor. That's all I wanted.

It doesn't exist, at least not in my grocery store. My choices were drinks with

lots of added sugar or with sugar substitutes, so I left with nothing.

Ordinarily, I make my own beverages at home and bring them to work but I didn't

have time this morning. I had no idea my choices at the store would be so

limited, especially considering the dozen or so brands available! And almost

every one of them proclaimed on its label that it was healthy or natural. Hmph.

 

 

jaime

 

 

[Guest guest]

Arsenic is also a natural element. That does not make it good for you. But

Splenda is freakishly altered, I'm not sure how.

-Shelby

 

 

pixiepie2003 [pixiepie2003]

Monday, March 28, 2005 7:28 PM

herbal remedies

Herbal Remedies - Splenda

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not surprised Splenda is bad for you. But I'm wondering how. I thought

it was

made from all natural elements--supposedly.

 

Pixie

 

--

 

 

Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release 3/27/2005

[Guest guest]

Sucrose chemically is C12H22O11. Sucralose (Splenda) is made by

removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3

chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11.

Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids

phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked

together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. This compound is

highly unstable. It breaks down in 3 to 6 months on the shelf or

instantly under any heat source over 86F, including body heat in to its

amino acid components. During this breakdown the highly toxic methanol

is released, which is a powerful nerve toxin. The methanol component is

what is responsible for the headaches, loss of vision, mental

disturbances, seizures, and birth defects (abnormally small brain

development)associated with aspartame use. Methanol is metabolized in

to the toxic components formaldehyde and formic acid, which are the

cancer causing components.

If you want to see something really interesting read the ingredients on

a package of Equal. The first two ingredients are sugars, followed by

aspartame. The first sugar is dextrose, which is the sweetener to make

it taste more like sugar since it is sugar. It also provides something

sweet in case the aspartame decomposes before reaching the consumer.

The second sugar is maltodextrin, which is actually a long chain sugar,

known as a carbohydrate. It is added as a flow agent to make the

application easier.

It should also be noted that even though aspartame is sold as a diet

aid, it does increase weight gain. The reason for this is two fold. It

stimulates appetite and it increases blood sugar levels. The latter

leads to an insulin response, which increases fat depositing.

 

herbal remedies , " Shelby Blakely "

<sblakely@b...> wrote:

> Arsenic is also a natural element. That does not make it good for

you. But

> Splenda is freakishly altered, I'm not sure how.

> -Shelby

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " Shelby Blakely "

<sblakely@b...> wrote:

> Arsenic is also a natural element. That does not make it good for

>you. But Splenda is freakishly altered, I'm not sure how.

> -Shelby

 

*****************

In part of the process, they substitute chlorine atoms...see the

chemical formulation below.

 

Splenda is a synthetic (chemical) sweetener. They have been using

the slogan " Splenda is made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar " ,

giving people the impression that its a " natural " sweetener.

 

This has caused the makers of Equal to sue the Splenda mfrs for their

deceptive advertising. Article below.

 

Neither Aspartame (Nutrasweet/Equal), nor Splenda, could be

considered a natural sweetener.... both are designated " Artificial "

Sweeteners.

 

Jan

 

http://www.dailyitem.com/archive/2004/1202/biz/stories/04biz.htm

 

Maker of Equal sues marketer Splenda over advertising claims

<snips>

In a complaint filed Friday in federal court in Philadelphia,

Merisant Co. said Splenda's marketing slogan, " made from sugar, so it

tastes like sugar, " should read something more like, " made from

dextrose, maltodextrin and 4-chloro-4-deoxy- alpha, D-

Galactopyranosyl-1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxy-beta, D-

fructofuranoside. " ...

 

" In reality ... there is no sugar in Splenda and Splenda's sweet

taste does not come from sugar, " the lawsuit said, " Splenda is not

natural in any sense of the word. Instead, the truth about Splenda is

that it is sweetened with a synthetic compound that is the result of

a complex chemical process. " .....

[Guest guest]

Splenda is made from chlorinated sugar. they claim it doesn't break down, but

the few studies they have done on it show that it breaks down anywhere from

19-40 %. Chlorine is not something that you want running free in your body.

Also, your bodies release of insulin is triggered by TASTE. Therefore, all

these artificial sweeteners that are supposedly safe for diabetics, still

trigger insulin problems.

 

Also, the material safety data sheet tells you to handle sucralose with extreme

care. Hazardous materials gear is to be worn at all times, with care never to

injest it.

 

Some people do not want to believe that these so called safe sweeteners are a

problem. I told some people on a child birthing group these facts and one

woman came back with, " What is wrong with chlorine? They let pregnant women

swim. " I was so shocked I didn't know how to answer.

Ramona

 

Quoting pixiepie2003 <pixiepie2003:

 

>

>

>

> I'm not surprised Splenda is bad for you. But I'm wondering how. I thought it

> was

> made from all natural elements--supposedly.

>

> Pixie

>

>

>

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

> free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

[Guest guest]

well, the chlorine isn't supposed to be in it's free state in the pool, as a matter of fact, if you smell it, it's because there's some nitrogen compounds in the water that have displaced it...

 

free chlorine is not a good thing

ramona wrote:

Splenda is made from chlorinated sugar. they claim it doesn't break down, butthe few studies they have done on it show that it breaks down anywhere from19-40 %. Chlorine is not something that you want running free in your body. Also, your bodies release of insulin is triggered by TASTE. Therefore, allthese artificial sweeteners that are supposedly safe for diabetics, stilltrigger insulin problems.Also, the material safety data sheet tells you to handle sucralose with extremecare. Hazardous materials gear is to be worn at all times, with care never toinjest it.Some people do not want to believe that these so called safe sweeteners are aproblem. I told some people on a child birthing group these facts and onewoman came back with, "What is wrong with chlorine? They let pregnant

womenswim." I was so shocked I didn't know how to answer.RamonaQuoting pixiepie2003 <pixiepie2003:>>>> I'm not surprised Splenda is bad for you. But I'm wondering how. I thought it> was> made from all natural elements--supposedly.>> Pixie>>>>>>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural> remedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person> following the advice of anyone posting here

does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from> list members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members> free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

a fact which i considered so intuitively obvious that I neglected to state it.

And no one ever rated pool water for drinking. the chlorine is added

specifically because it is a poisen.

ramona

 

Quoting Cha Mirija <chamirija:

>

> free chlorine is not a good thing

>

[Guest guest]

Now, this is getting very, very funny.

 

And dihydrous oxide (H2O is water, and the formula for . . .

 

Hveragerthi! Your arrogance and pretended knowledge is cracking me up. I haven't run into such a con artist in years and you take the cake, win the cuppie doll, and have given me the best laugh I've had in ages. Are you sure you're not a med or a psych student??? ROTFLMAO

 

Just because it is obvious you are down on Splenda, Aspartame, Equal, Nutrasweet etc. (AND WE ALL SHOULD BE!!!), it doesn't mean that any further drivel of this nature will be allowed on Herbal Remedies. We just don't need to be impressed by all the Scientific Nomenclature BS.

 

If you can't start communicating using normal language, you need to go else where HV. You really do.

 

Doc (still laughing ;-)

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

hveragerthi

herbal remedies

Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:06 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Sucrose chemically is C12H22O11. Sucralose (Splenda) is made by removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3 chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11.Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. This compound is highly unstable. It breaks down in 3 to 6 months on the shelf or instantly under any heat source over 86F, including body heat in to its amino acid components. During this breakdown the highly toxic methanol is released, which is a powerful nerve toxin. The methanol component is what is responsible for the headaches, loss of vision, mental disturbances, seizures, and birth defects (abnormally small brain development)associated with aspartame use. Methanol is metabolized in to the toxic components formaldehyde and formic acid, which are the cancer causing components.If you want to see something really interesting read the ingredients on a package of Equal. The first two ingredients are sugars, followed by aspartame. The first sugar is dextrose, which is the sweetener to make it taste more like sugar since it is sugar. It also provides something sweet in case the aspartame decomposes before reaching the consumer. The second sugar is maltodextrin, which is actually a long chain sugar, known as a carbohydrate. It is added as a flow agent to make the application easier.It should also be noted that even though aspartame is sold as a diet aid, it does increase weight gain. The reason for this is two fold. It stimulates appetite and it increases blood sugar levels. The latter leads to an insulin response, which increases fat depositing.herbal remedies , "Shelby Blakely" <sblakely@b...> wrote:> Arsenic is also a natural element. That does not make it good for you. But> Splenda is freakishly altered, I'm not sure how.> -ShelbyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

While I agree with you, I'm glad that I got the skinny on Splenda. I have been wondering about that for some time. That said, I am also concerned about HV's style and I thought it was overly technical for his (or her) umpteenth post of the day. So my question is, was he right? Can I pass this information on? I would love to post this information for my biology class, there we actually need this technical stuff.

-Shelby

 

Dr. Ian Shillington [DocShillington]Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:29 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Now, this is getting very, very funny.

 

And dihydrous oxide (H2O is water, and the formula for . . .

 

Hveragerthi! Your arrogance and pretended knowledge is cracking me up. I haven't run into such a con artist in years and you take the cake, win the cuppie doll, and have given me the best laugh I've had in ages. Are you sure you're not a med or a psych student??? ROTFLMAO

 

Just because it is obvious you are down on Splenda, Aspartame, Equal, Nutrasweet etc. (AND WE ALL SHOULD BE!!!), it doesn't mean that any further drivel of this nature will be allowed on Herbal Remedies. We just don't need to be impressed by all the Scientific Nomenclature BS.

 

If you can't start communicating using normal language, you need to go else where HV. You really do.

 

Doc (still laughing ;-)

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

hveragerthi

herbal remedies

Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:06 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Sucrose chemically is C12H22O11. Sucralose (Splenda) is made by removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3 chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11.Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. This compound is highly unstable. It breaks down in 3 to 6 months on the shelf or instantly under any heat source over 86F, including body heat in to its amino acid components. During this breakdown the highly toxic methanol is released, which is a powerful nerve toxin. The methanol component is what is responsible for the headaches, loss of vision, mental disturbances, seizures, and birth defects (abnormally small brain development)associated with aspartame use. Methanol is metabolized in to the toxic components formaldehyde and formic acid, which are the cancer causing components.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shelby,

 

The data on Splenda is good (let me qualify that - "for the most part"), though I'd appreciate it if the source of the data was posted, so that I could use it in any research that I wanted to do on the subject, IF I decided I wanted to do this. I would certainly not quote HV as being the "Source" of this science in any paper I would write.

 

It's very simple. I take umbrage with the blatant explosion of raw scientific data with no referrence to who did the research and how the research was conducted. I am further put out by this being done on a list where ordinary human beings come, to get some plain and uncomplicated answers to real problems.

 

In what laboratory did, "removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3 chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11" take place and what was the process used to do this???

 

Where did, "Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule." come from??? What research paper and lab was this taken from and then so determined???

 

I would certainly not pass on any such data without knowing and attributing the exact source. To do so would be plagarism, out manners and possibly a violation of copyright laws.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:56 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

 

While I agree with you, I'm glad that I got the skinny on Splenda. I have been wondering about that for some time. That said, I am also concerned about HV's style and I thought it was overly technical for his (or her) umpteenth post of the day. So my question is, was he right? Can I pass this information on? I would love to post this information for my biology class, there we actually need this technical stuff.

-Shelby

 

Dr. Ian Shillington [DocShillington]Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:29 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Now, this is getting very, very funny.

 

And dihydrous oxide (H2O is water, and the formula for . . .

 

Hveragerthi! Your arrogance and pretended knowledge is cracking me up. I haven't run into such a con artist in years and you take the cake, win the cuppie doll, and have given me the best laugh I've had in ages. Are you sure you're not a med or a psych student??? ROTFLMAO

 

Just because it is obvious you are down on Splenda, Aspartame, Equal, Nutrasweet etc. (AND WE ALL SHOULD BE!!!), it doesn't mean that any further drivel of this nature will be allowed on Herbal Remedies. We just don't need to be impressed by all the Scientific Nomenclature BS.

 

If you can't start communicating using normal language, you need to go else where HV. You really do.

 

Doc (still laughing ;-)

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

hveragerthi

herbal remedies

Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:06 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Sucrose chemically is C12H22O11. Sucralose (Splenda) is made by removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3 chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11.Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. This compound is highly unstable. It breaks down in 3 to 6 months on the shelf or instantly under any heat source over 86F, including body heat in to its amino acid components. During this breakdown the highly toxic methanol is released, which is a powerful nerve toxin. The methanol component is what is responsible for the headaches, loss of vision, mental disturbances, seizures, and birth defects (abnormally small brain development)associated with aspartame use. Methanol is metabolized in to the toxic components formaldehyde and formic acid, which are the cancer causing components.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

i don't think we are on the same page here---my point was, if you can smell the chlorine, it's been liberated from soln (the pool) and it means that there is urine or worse, like excrement, in the pool...so you are smelling the gas...chlorine is added because it's an oxidizer, you've basically got a weak bleach soln in the water.

 

I don't think it's obvious at all, and I am not talking about drinking it, I am talking about when the gas is liberated and it starts to burn your eyes.

 

 

ramona wrote:

a fact which i considered so intuitively obvious that I neglected to state it. And no one ever rated pool water for drinking. the chlorine is addedspecifically because it is a poisen.ramonaQuoting Cha Mirija <chamirija:>> free chlorine is not a good thing>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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[Guest guest]

well, maybe they shouldn't...

one woman came back with, "What is wrong with chlorine? They let pregnant womenswim." I was so shocked I didn't know how to answer.Ramona

[Guest guest]

Dear Doc,

I heard on a daytime TV show regularly aired,

that Splenda turns to another acid all together

when it hits a person's stoumach acid. That it

is dangerous more on this count than in causing

cancer in labratory animals. And that if a person

were fed as much of it and aspertame as are these

rats who develope a cancer, we too would get it,

but what we must understand is that it would take

FAR MORE consumption on our part than on those

tiny rats. I myself have been raised on Pure Sugar

in a rawer form such as Brown Sugar, and I use

no highly refined sugars such as white. I have

used Equal for camping trips and other places

where regular sugars might draw bugs, but other-

wise I eat what can be grown ... not produced

in a labratory. I use natural/organic when I

can PROVE a product is as it claims, and other-

wise garden and use what others have grown that

I know are not harmful. I also hate preservatives

they add now, and feel if I need to be preserved

I will drink a glass of good wine every night

before bed.

 

A Natural Lifestyle and Excercise WORKS!

I am LIVING PROOF!

By The Sea In SC,

Jewel

[Guest guest]

hi doc,

for the thick people in the room should i stop having splender in my

tea,,,,,, yes or no

HELP

juju

 

> " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington

>herbal remedies

><herbal remedies >

>Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:59:01 -0500

>

>Dear Shelby,

>

>The data on Splenda is good (let me qualify that - " for the most part " ),

>though I'd appreciate it if the source of the data was posted, so that I

>could use it in any research that I wanted to do on the subject, IF I

>decided I wanted to do this. I would certainly not quote HV as being the

> " Source " of this science in any paper I would write.

>

>It's very simple. I take umbrage with the blatant explosion of raw

>scientific data with no referrence to who did the research and how the

>research was conducted. I am further put out by this being done on a list

>where ordinary human beings come, to get some plain and uncomplicated

>answers to real problems.

>

>In what laboratory did, " removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and

>replacing them with 3 chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11 "

>take place and what was the process used to do this???

>

>Where did, " Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino

>acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked

>together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. " come from??? What

>research paper and lab was this taken from and then so determined???

>

>I would certainly not pass on any such data without knowing and attributing

>the exact source. To do so would be plagarism, out manners and possibly a

>violation of copyright laws.

>

>Love,

>

>Doc

>

>Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

>727-447-5282

>Doc

> -

> Shelby Blakely

> herbal remedies

> Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:56 PM

> RE: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

>

>

> While I agree with you, I'm glad that I got the skinny on Splenda. I

>have been wondering about that for some time. That said, I am also

>concerned about HV's style and I thought it was overly technical for his

>(or her) umpteenth post of the day. So my question is, was he right? Can I

>pass this information on? I would love to post this information for my

>biology class, there we actually need this technical stuff.

> -Shelby

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington [DocShillington]

> Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:29 PM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

>

>

> Now, this is getting very, very funny.

>

> And dihydrous oxide (H2O is water, and the formula for . . .

>

> Hveragerthi! Your arrogance and pretended knowledge is cracking me

>up. I haven't run into such a con artist in years and you take the cake,

>win the cuppie doll, and have given me the best laugh I've had in ages.

>Are you sure you're not a med or a psych student??? ROTFLMAO

>

> Just because it is obvious you are down on Splenda, Aspartame, Equal,

>Nutrasweet etc. (AND WE ALL SHOULD BE!!!), it doesn't mean that any further

>drivel of this nature will be allowed on Herbal Remedies. We just don't

>need to be impressed by all the Scientific Nomenclature BS.

>

> If you can't start communicating using normal language, you need to go

>else where HV. You really do.

>

> Doc (still laughing ;-)

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-447-5282

> Doc

> -

> hveragerthi

> herbal remedies

> Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:06 AM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

>

>

> Sucrose chemically is C12H22O11. Sucralose (Splenda) is made by

> removing three of the hydrogen (H) atoms, and replacing them with 3

> chlorine (Cl) atoms so it would now be C12Cl22O11.

> Aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) is a methyl ester of the amino acids

> phenylalanine and aspartic acid. The two amino acids are linked

> together with a methanol (wood alcohol) molecule. This compound is

> highly unstable. It breaks down in 3 to 6 months on the shelf or

> instantly under any heat source over 86F, including body heat in to

>its

> amino acid components. During this breakdown the highly toxic

>methanol

> is released, which is a powerful nerve toxin. The methanol component

>is

> what is responsible for the headaches, loss of vision, mental

> disturbances, seizures, and birth defects (abnormally small brain

> development)associated with aspartame use. Methanol is metabolized

>in

> to the toxic components formaldehyde and formic acid, which are the

> cancer causing components.

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

>remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

>and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

>as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

>person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

>from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

>members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jewel,

Good on ya for having your own garden.

Back 75 years ago, everyone had their own garden (they were called Victory Gardens) and it was part of the WW1 and WW2 efforts.

The amazing thing is that the health of Americans was at its highest ever during that period.

Funny thing.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

Jewel

herbal remedies

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:09 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Splenda

Dear Doc,I heard on a daytime TV show regularly aired,that Splenda turns to another acid all togetherwhen it hits a person's stoumach acid. That itis dangerous more on this count than in causingcancer in labratory animals. And that if a personwere fed as much of it and aspertame as are theserats who develope a cancer, we too would get it,but what we must understand is that it would takeFAR MORE consumption on our part than on thosetiny rats. I myself have been raised on Pure Sugarin a rawer form such as Brown Sugar, and I useno highly refined sugars such as white. I haveused Equal for camping trips and other placeswhere regular sugars might draw bugs, but other-wise I eat what can be grown ... not producedin a labratory. I use natural/organic when Ican PROVE a product is as it claims, and other-wise garden and use what others have grown thatI know are not harmful. I also hate preservativesthey add now, and feel if I need to be preservedI will drink a glass of good wine every nightbefore bed. :)A Natural Lifestyle and Excercise WORKS!I am LIVING PROOF!By The Sea In SC,Jewel

[Guest guest]

There is NOTHING natural about forcing a chlorine molecule onto already

overprocessed and denatured white sugar molecules.

 

Marisa

Domestic Engineer

and

Mother of 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not surprised Splenda is bad for you. But I'm wondering how. I thought

it was

made from all natural elements--supposedly.

 

Pixie

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I would also like to know why Mercola complied with the " request " ?

 

Alobar

 

On 10/22/06, margaret_chalkley2000 <me.chalkley wrote:

> When I go to Dr Mercola's page about the dangers of Splenda or

> Sucralose I get the following message.

>

> " Attorneys acting on behalf of the manufacturers of sucralose, Tate &

> Lyle PLC based in London, England, have requested that the information

> contained on this page not be made available to Internet users in

> England " .

>

> I am very curious as to what information is unavailable to me.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret.

I think the information is on this site in the

archives because although we in the Uk cannot read

about Splenda the U.S surprisingly has not been

gagged.Dr Mercola was threatened with a law suit and

was unable to post information about Splenda in the

Uk.It was about the time Tate and Lyle were promoting

Splenda in the UK.I can't remember what all the fuss

was about but you can guarantee that something that is

combined with chlorine and then ingested is not going

to do you any good,no matter how harmless the

manufacturers say it is.

Best wishes

Chris

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thank you

to all who have replied and informed me about Splenda

I shall certainly avoid it along with the other artificial sweeteners.

 

On the topic of sweeteners how safe is xylitol?

 

Margaret

 

 

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Chris Garen

Monday, October 23, 2006 12:34 PM

Re: Splenda

 

 

Hi Margaret.

I think the information is on this site in the

archives because although we in the Uk cannot read

about Splenda the U.S surprisingly has not been

[Guest guest]

Xylitol is good for mouthwash & toothpaste as it prevents infections.

I use it in small amounts. It is high in oxalates so if you are

prone to oxalate problems, use in moderation only.

 

Alobar

 

On 10/23/06, Margaret <me.chalkley wrote:

> Thank you

> to all who have replied and informed me about Splenda

> I shall certainly avoid it along with the other artificial sweeteners.

>

> On the topic of sweeteners how safe is xylitol?

>

> Margaret

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just as an off hand comment, xylitol is toxic to dogs

but then again so is chocolate. I'd keep to small

amounts. Splenda looks like something I'd use to try

to poison ants. Sugar and borax kills ants, I'd bet

Splenda and borax would be even more effective.

 

 

, " Margaret "

<me.chalkley wrote:

>

> Thank you

> to all who have replied and informed me about Splenda

> I shall certainly avoid it along with the other artificial

sweeteners.

>

> On the topic of sweeteners how safe is xylitol?

>

> Margaret

[Guest guest]

I prefer stevia, natural plant extract, 100 times sweeter than

suguar, ok for diabetics...(I'm borderline) doesn't cause tooth

decay, and doesn't screw up your pH balance...

Cynthia

, " Margaret "

<me.chalkley wrote:

>

> Thank you

> to all who have replied and informed me about Splenda

> I shall certainly avoid it along with the other artificial

sweeteners.

>

> On the topic of sweeteners how safe is xylitol?

>

> Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

I always thought Stevia was natural.... The problem with Splenda is that the

body doesn't seem to recognize it... so the sugar raises - but nothing really

detects it. In my personal opinion, that is dangerous for diabetics - well

anyone really ... later on the sugar levels just skyrocketed, hundreds of points

within a short amount of time. Scary. My poor husband had no idea what happened.

I am hypoglycemic so I evened out faster... but sheesh... And it is FDA approved

as safe...?! Lexi

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote:

>

> Do you need to hide the name? Stevia?

 

I thought of Splenda too.

 

Is stevia safe? I always thought it was.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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