Results from Tea - Spleen Damp/Large Intestine dampness, stuffy nose - my visit to the TCM today.

[Guest guest]

For those that are interested you may recall 3 days ago I was prescribed a tea

called " Powder of Five Drugs -Containing Poria " or Wu Ling San. It was to repair

the symptoms in the above subject line.

I was told by my TCM to report back when finished. I will see him tomorrow. This

is what I will tell him:

 

First day: headache, dry throat and nose lining causing stuffy nose, bad breath

(phew!). No night sweats like I usually have.

 

Day two: Same symptoms but not as bad.

 

Day three: Concentration markedly improved (I like that), much less of a stuffy

nose, more energy seem to be sleeping better. Bad breath gone.

 

My main goal is to eliminate the stuffy nose, so we may need to continue or try

something else.

 

Lick

 

 

 

 

 

-

Al Stone

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, February 01, 2008 6:15 PM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Spleen Damp/Large Intestine dampness, stuffy

nose - my visit to the TCM today.

 

 

On Feb 1, 2008 4:16 PM, Rick Brown <bigskyagency wrote:

 

> I'm not sure why, but I think (his English isn't the best), he fills

> this is as good as Po Chai.

>

 

That's perfectly fine. I can't see you, or really know what's going on as

well as someone who sees you in person.

 

> He let me write down the name. It is called " Powder of Five Drugs -

> Containing Poria " this came from his Chinese Herbal book he showed me. It

> has Poria, Polyporous umbrella, Rhizoma Atra., Rhizoma Aleamtos, Ramulus

> Cinnomomi.

> He added something else to as an additive to work with this to aid the

> stuffy nose. Anyhow I boil this tea and take 1 cup at night and 1 in the

> morning.

>

 

Very good. Yes, this formula is called Wu Ling San in Chinese. This formula

assumes dampness, but in a slightly different environment. He doesn't see

food stagnation (treated by Po Chai pills), so that's fine. You may not have

food stagnation. But we agree on the dampness, and so this formula will help

excrete some of it out through the urine. Enjoy the cinnamon twig in there.

Tastes good.

 

Rick or as my TCM calls me Lick.

>

 

Best of luck to you,

 

-Ar.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

[Guest guest]

On Feb 4, 2008 7:04 PM, Rick Brown <bigskyagency wrote:

 

> For those that are interested you may recall 3 days ago I was prescribed

> a tea called " Powder of Five Drugs -Containing Poria " or Wu Ling San.

>

> First day: headache, dry throat and nose lining causing stuffy nose, bad

> breath (phew!). No night sweats like I usually have.

>

> Day two: Same symptoms but not as bad.

>

> Day three: Concentration markedly improved (I like that), much less of a

> stuffy nose, more energy seem to be sleeping better. Bad breath gone.

>

> My main goal is to eliminate the stuffy nose, so we may need to continue

> or try something else.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, you may need to be on this formula for more than three days. Better

plan on three weeks instead. If this were a short-lived acute condition, you

may better in a position to expect the herbs to work more quickly. However

this is a chronic long-term issue, you need to give the herbs more time to

work. Many drugs require what pharmacists call a " loading dose " which is to

say that the body needs a certain amount of time to collect the drug before

it kicks in. The herbs aren't said to need a loading dose, but patience is

going to help you.

 

Please ask your TCM practitioner about how long it should take for you to

feel better. He or she may not be able to give a clear answer, but certainly

three days worth of the herbs is meaningless in terms of assessing efficacy.

 

Also, if you become hyper-vigilant to your symptoms, your own mind can

generate them. Or the natural cycle of the problem (some days better, some

days worse) will only be slightly impacted at first, if at all. So, after

three days, you probably don't know if the formula is working for you yet.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Al,

 

Yes I am definitely in this for the long haul. I also believe I am on the right

track here. Which you helped put me on.

 

I just want to make it clear that if this doesn't work it is no reflection on

you. I realize there is a whole lot of experimentation involved here, with about

100 different scenarios to choose from and each person is different. My TCM

agreed with you about the LI connection. So we are exploring that together and

will probably have to try different scenarios before this is solved.

 

I just appreciate that you took an interest, and I thought it would be

interesting for the group to get feed back on my little journey. I have a

feeling Mike might benefit the most.

 

I look at this as a mystery jig saw puzzle to solve, and if anyone in this group

can add a piece to the puzzle I would appreciate it. I am off to see my TCM

right now.

 

Happy health everyone.

 

Lick

 

 

 

 

 

-

Al Stone

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:24 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Results from Tea - Spleen Damp/Large Intestine

dampness, stuffy nose - my visit to the TCM today.

 

 

On Feb 4, 2008 7:04 PM, Rick Brown <bigskyagency wrote:

 

> For those that are interested you may recall 3 days ago I was prescribed

> a tea called " Powder of Five Drugs -Containing Poria " or Wu Ling San.

>

> First day: headache, dry throat and nose lining causing stuffy nose, bad

> breath (phew!). No night sweats like I usually have.

>

> Day two: Same symptoms but not as bad.

>

> Day three: Concentration markedly improved (I like that), much less of a

> stuffy nose, more energy seem to be sleeping better. Bad breath gone.

>

> My main goal is to eliminate the stuffy nose, so we may need to continue

> or try something else.

>

 

Hey, you may need to be on this formula for more than three days. Better

plan on three weeks instead. If this were a short-lived acute condition, you

may better in a position to expect the herbs to work more quickly. However

this is a chronic long-term issue, you need to give the herbs more time to

work. Many drugs require what pharmacists call a " loading dose " which is to

say that the body needs a certain amount of time to collect the drug before

it kicks in. The herbs aren't said to need a loading dose, but patience is

going to help you.

 

Please ask your TCM practitioner about how long it should take for you to

feel better. He or she may not be able to give a clear answer, but certainly

three days worth of the herbs is meaningless in terms of assessing efficacy.

 

Also, if you become hyper-vigilant to your symptoms, your own mind can

generate them. Or the natural cycle of the problem (some days better, some

days worse) will only be slightly impacted at first, if at all. So, after

three days, you probably don't know if the formula is working for you yet.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.