O.T.Gout surge blamed on sweet drinks

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I just want to make a historical comment here.

 

When I was a kid, having a soft drink was a rare treat. You got a

fountain coke or whatever (not bottled) with your popcorn when you

went to the movies. Sometimes if you were out with your parents, and

they stopped by one of the many mom and pop " convenience " stores, you

might get one if you'd been very good. If you were sick and nauseous,

you'd likely get 7 Up (or gingerale in a few cases). When the adults

were feeling a little nauseous, they'd usually opt for coke. (It's

the phosphoric acid in soft drinks that has the effect of relieving

some (not all) cases of nausea. That and the ginger in gingerale back

when gingerale actually had ginger in it. You can buy food grade

phosphoric acid today as a dietary supplement under brand names like

Phosfood® Liquid. But usually the problem today is too much

phosphorous.)

 

Mom and pop drug stores almost always had a food area where you could

get stuff like grilled cheese sandwiches, chicken salad sandwiches,

soup, ice cream, and soft drinks. A typical routine for a sick kid

was a doctor appointment in the morning followed by a trip to the

drug store. While your mother waited for your prescription to be

filled, you and she had lunch in the drug store.

 

For some reason one also could get ammonia (or something called that)

in your fountain drink at drug stores. The adults said it sometimes

calmed their nerves and made them feel better.

 

In the area of the South where I lived grocery stores began to sell

cartons of cokes in I believe the early 1970s. But they were in

bottles. Which meant a trip to the grocery store meant hauling back

your empty bottles and cashing them in. The consumption of soft

drinks didn't really take off until they were bottled in much lighter

plastic - especially in 2 liter sizes. (BTW, back in the days of

glass bottles, one ways kids earned money was to go out and collect

empty pop bottles and cash them in.)

 

For the group members who have an interest in US Southern culture,

for some reason - especially among kids - it was popular to pour your

peanuts into your RC Cola, and eat them from the bottle as you drank

your drink. Moonpies and RC Cola to wash it down with was also

popular. And before there was the caffeine rich Mountain Dew

nationally, there was SunDrop in the South.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

Good Morning,

 

The good old days *grins*. I live in the south now, if you can call it that...

so much has changed toward immediate gratification, combined with all of the

desk jobs, this country's health is in dire straits ... I always thought that

moderation was a key to a healthy lifestyle- but then looking at the ingredients

in some things... is scary.

 

I just wanted to say - something about a certain sugar additive here beginning

with " S " ... my husband is type I diabetic, this evil powder is not a good

substitute for sugar. Sugar in and of itself I feel is not a bad thing - unless

consumed in mass amounts. The S tricked his body - made his sugar feel really

high but he could not test it with his glucose tester... then hours later he

spiked over 700 within like two minutes. This stuff is dangerous. I had some as

well in the pie a friend made, it made very ill. I had gestational diabetes

during pregnancy - having a clue what high blood sugar felt like - that was it.

It is horrible.

 

I tend to use licorice root as well sometimes, but in cookies, it just doesn't

do it - that is why i think moderation is good.

 

My husband has sugar and cream in his coffee and is perfectly fine with it -

even with the diabetes.... my good friend said, we are to a certain extent

predisposed, meaning - she explained - that eating healthy doesn't matter too

much, because if it is in you to get cancer or whatever... it will not matter if

you smoke 80 packs a day or drink... it will inevitably happen anyway...

however, being mindful and moderate, we can achieve the full use of our body and

mind. Or something to that effect... any thoughts? She said everyone is

different, some actually need meat in their diet while others may not...

 

Lexi

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

I just want to make a historical comment here.

 

When I was a kid, having a soft drink was a rare treat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

On Feb 4, 2008 7:49 AM, Lexi Busch <lexibusch wrote:

 

> I just wanted to say - something about a certain sugar additive here

> beginning with " S "

>

 

 

 

 

Do you need to hide the name? Stevia?

 

my good friend said, we are to a certain extent predisposed, meaning - she

> explained - that eating healthy doesn't matter too much, because if it is in

> you to get cancer or whatever... it will not matter if you smoke 80 packs a

> day or drink... it will inevitably happen anyway...

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems a little fatalistic.

 

There are processes that are inevitable in our health, but choosing healthy

lifestyle choices can push back the time for those processes to somaticize

(manifest in your body).

 

People are not living any longer now than in the past, however in the past,

people would start to feel sick and weak perhaps 25 years before they died,

while now the healthier people will start to feel sick and weak perhaps 6

months before they die. You tell me which you would prefer.

 

-al.

 

 

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Al,

 

I think she might have been writing about Splenda.

 

Karen in San Diego

 

 

Al Stone wrote:

>

> On Feb 4, 2008 7:49 AM, Lexi Busch <lexibusch

> <lexibusch%40>> wrote:

>

> > I just wanted to say - something about a certain sugar additive here

> > beginning with " S "

> >

>

> Do you need to hide the name? Stevia?

>

> my good friend said, we are to a certain extent predisposed, meaning - she

> > explained - that eating healthy doesn't matter too much, because if

> it is in

> > you to get cancer or whatever... it will not matter if you smoke 80

> packs a

> > day or drink... it will inevitably happen anyway...

> >

>

> Seems a little fatalistic.

>

> There are processes that are inevitable in our health, but choosing

> healthy

> lifestyle choices can push back the time for those processes to somaticize

> (manifest in your body).

>

> People are not living any longer now than in the past, however in the

> past,

> people would start to feel sick and weak perhaps 25 years before they

> died,

> while now the healthier people will start to feel sick and weak perhaps 6

> months before they die. You tell me which you would prefer.

>

> -al.

>

> --

> , DAOM

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

>

>