digestion & sinus congestion

[Guest guest]

Al you may have helped me out here!

 

I am noticing improvement in my sinus congestion by taking 4 digestive enzymes

before going to bed. One night I had

no congestion at all. That hasn't happened in years. It is not perfect but I see

improvement. Thank you.

 

Western medicine says this congestion is caused by the " not fully digested " food

particles entering the blood stream which the body

doesn't recognize and creates a allergic response. This makes sense.

 

I just have a couple of more questions:

 

In TCM terms what is the connection between poor digestion, and my sinus

congestion waking me up between 5:00 and 6;30 a.m.?

I do notice my allergies waking me during allergy season at the same time too.

 

Lastly, you didn't mention a TCM herbal that would help my digestion ( I will

drink more Ginger tea). Is there one you could recommend.

I would also like one for repairing the walls of my large intestine. I believe I

have what westerners call 'leaky gut " .

 

Thanks again. I will definitely buy your book if you ever write one .

 

Sincerely

 

Rick

 

P.S. To those people that emailed the name of the book to reference, and

lavender solution, thank you! I will add that to my arsenal.

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Jan 24, 2008 11:59 AM, Big Sky <bigskyagency wrote:

 

>

> I am noticing improvement in my sinus congestion by taking 4 digestive

> enzymes before going to bed. One night I had

> no congestion at all. That hasn't happened in years. It is not perfect but

> I see improvement. Thank you.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I happen to be a fan of digestive enzymes and probiotics. In my personal

opinion, they work somewhat quickly. I bring that up because I see some

people taking them for months and months with no benefit, which tells me

simply that they didn't need the enzymes and probiotics in the first place.

That's not a well-informed opinion, just my personal observation.

 

> Western medicine says this congestion is caused by the " not fully

> digested " food particles entering the blood stream which the body

> doesn't recognize and creates a allergic response. This makes sense.

>

 

 

 

 

 

That's a good observation. It's always nice when pathomechanisms line up.

 

I just have a couple of more questions:

>

> In TCM terms what is the connection between poor digestion, and my sinus

> congestion waking me up between 5:00 and 6;30 a.m.?

> I do notice my allergies waking me during allergy season at the same time

> too.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that if I were to connect your early morning congestion to anything,

I would default to the clock more commonly taught in TCM schools where 5-7

AM is associated with the Large Intestine. In your case, a reasonable

mechanism would be that dampness is created in the Earth element (digestion)

and stored in the Metal element (Lungs and Large Intestine). From the Lungs

they can rise to the nose for nasal congestion. But more likely, what's

going on here is that the dampness is also getting in to the Large Intestine

which has a channel that rises to the nose. So, dampness in the Stomach gets

into the LI, which rises to the nose and pops out during the LI time of the

day (5-7 AM).

 

Again, we have so many theories to chose from, it isn't difficult to

rationalize anything. That's why clinical outcomes matter, such as your

problem improving with digestive enzymes. That somewhat strengthens the case

for the Damp->Stomach->Large Intestine->channel->Nose mechanism.

 

 

> Lastly, you didn't mention a TCM herbal that would help my digestion ( I

> will drink more Ginger tea). Is there one you could recommend.

> I would also like one for repairing the walls of my large intestine. I

> believe I have what westerners call 'leaky gut " .

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's a commonly found premade formula in little tiny balls called Po Chai

Pills. You can google them and try that out too. They may be a good option

for you all around as they're readily available and address both food

stagnation as well as internal dampness. One vile before bed might be

perfect for you.

 

" Drying dampness " doesn't really jibe well with closing holes that are too

large in your intestines, to my knowledge there is no formula or herb that

has that particular action, however when we step back from the microscope a

bit and look at the pattern as it manifests before the naked eye, internal

dampness is often how it presents, and so that it how the TCM practitioner

would treat it.

 

There are actually many TCM practitioners, especially Western trained, who

will get all in to a new problem such as leaky gut, but not the Chinese

trained TCM folk. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I do hope

to get across that TCM as as a rule, favors looking at the whole

presentation, not the size of the holes in the intestines. That's just part

of our process, and it seems to work.

 

> Thanks again. I will definitely buy your book if you ever write one .

>

 

 

 

Well, now that you mention it, there is a book coming out that I

co-authored. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be called, but it is at

the publisher now going through final revisions and it should be available

inside of a few months.

 

It'll be published by Eastland Press and called something like " TCM

Diagnosis Study Guide " . This book assumes that the reader is at least a TCM

student. May not be much of a read for consumers.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote:

> I happen to be a fan of digestive enzymes and probiotics. In my

personal

> opinion, they work somewhat quickly.

 

I am too. Years ago an informal poll of PWCs (People With CFIDS)

revealed that the number one thing that helped the digestive system

problems that PWCs are prone to are digestive enzymes.

 

> Well, now that you mention it, there is a book coming out that I

> co-authored. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be called, but

it is at

> the publisher now going through final revisions and it should be

available

> inside of a few months.

>

> It'll be published by Eastland Press and called something like " TCM

> Diagnosis Study Guide " . This book assumes that the reader is at

least a TCM

> student. May not be much of a read for consumers.

 

I hope you'll give us more details as they become available - like

title, release date, etc.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

Leaky Gut Syndrome: A Modern Epidemic Part II

Articles - Leaky Gut Syndrome Articles

 

 

Part 2: Diagnosis and Treatment

 

 

 

Jake Paul Fratkin, OMD

 

 

 

 

http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/leaky-gut-syndrome-articles/leaky-

gut-syndrome:-a-modern-epidemic-part-ii/

[Guest guest]

Thanks Al for this, and do keep us posted on the arrival of your book.

 

Rick

-

Al Stone

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, January 25, 2008 9:37 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] digestion & sinus congestion

 

 

On Jan 24, 2008 11:59 AM, Big Sky <bigskyagency wrote:

 

>

> I am noticing improvement in my sinus congestion by taking 4 digestive

> enzymes before going to bed. One night I had

> no congestion at all. That hasn't happened in years. It is not perfect but

> I see improvement. Thank you.

>

 

I happen to be a fan of digestive enzymes and probiotics. In my personal

opinion, they work somewhat quickly. I bring that up because I see some

people taking them for months and months with no benefit, which tells me

simply that they didn't need the enzymes and probiotics in the first place.

That's not a well-informed opinion, just my personal observation.

 

> Western medicine says this congestion is caused by the " not fully

> digested " food particles entering the blood stream which the body

> doesn't recognize and creates a allergic response. This makes sense.

>

 

That's a good observation. It's always nice when pathomechanisms line up.

 

I just have a couple of more questions:

>

> In TCM terms what is the connection between poor digestion, and my sinus

> congestion waking me up between 5:00 and 6;30 a.m.?

> I do notice my allergies waking me during allergy season at the same time

> too.

>

 

I think that if I were to connect your early morning congestion to anything,

I would default to the clock more commonly taught in TCM schools where 5-7

AM is associated with the Large Intestine. In your case, a reasonable

mechanism would be that dampness is created in the Earth element (digestion)

and stored in the Metal element (Lungs and Large Intestine). From the Lungs

they can rise to the nose for nasal congestion. But more likely, what's

going on here is that the dampness is also getting in to the Large Intestine

which has a channel that rises to the nose. So, dampness in the Stomach gets

into the LI, which rises to the nose and pops out during the LI time of the

day (5-7 AM).

 

Again, we have so many theories to chose from, it isn't difficult to

rationalize anything. That's why clinical outcomes matter, such as your

problem improving with digestive enzymes. That somewhat strengthens the case

for the Damp->Stomach->Large Intestine->channel->Nose mechanism.

 

> Lastly, you didn't mention a TCM herbal that would help my digestion ( I

> will drink more Ginger tea). Is there one you could recommend.

> I would also like one for repairing the walls of my large intestine. I

> believe I have what westerners call 'leaky gut " .

>

 

There's a commonly found premade formula in little tiny balls called Po Chai

Pills. You can google them and try that out too. They may be a good option

for you all around as they're readily available and address both food

stagnation as well as internal dampness. One vile before bed might be

perfect for you.

 

" Drying dampness " doesn't really jibe well with closing holes that are too

large in your intestines, to my knowledge there is no formula or herb that

has that particular action, however when we step back from the microscope a

bit and look at the pattern as it manifests before the naked eye, internal

dampness is often how it presents, and so that it how the TCM practitioner

would treat it.

 

There are actually many TCM practitioners, especially Western trained, who

will get all in to a new problem such as leaky gut, but not the Chinese

trained TCM folk. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I do hope

to get across that TCM as as a rule, favors looking at the whole

presentation, not the size of the holes in the intestines. That's just part

of our process, and it seems to work.

 

> Thanks again. I will definitely buy your book if you ever write one .

>

 

Well, now that you mention it, there is a book coming out that I

co-authored. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be called, but it is at

the publisher now going through final revisions and it should be available

inside of a few months.

 

It'll be published by Eastland Press and called something like " TCM

Diagnosis Study Guide " . This book assumes that the reader is at least a TCM

student. May not be much of a read for consumers.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

[Guest guest]

YES! Just based on what I have read here the short time I have been a member - I

would love reading it. A peaceful day to all... lexi

 

Rick Brown <bigskyagency wrote:

Thanks Al for this, and do keep us posted on the arrival of your book.

 

Rick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi there,

 

I notice there is one other time that causes a increase sinus pressure and

stuffy nose almost everynight when doing it and that is after playing aggressive

sports like hockey or soccer. I played hockey on Wednesday and that night my

sinuses were really stuffed up (may have to do with the conditions of dry cold

air). But I noticed it to when weight lifting and soccer other times.

 

Is there a connection between hard workouts and the sinus blood pressure. I

wonder about low sodium.

 

Do you see any connection with internal dampness here?

 

BTW, I am starting 4 bags of tea " Five drugs of Poiria " . One bag every 4 days. I

hope this will help. The TCM told me when I complained about dry throat, and

nose after the 1st couple of days when drinking the tea, that it is a good sign

when that happens and those symptoms

is the dampness coming out. That made me feel much better.

 

Thanks for your past comments Pejo.

 

Sincerely,

 

Lick

 

 

 

-

Al Stone

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, January 25, 2008 9:37 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] digestion & sinus congestion

 

 

On Jan 24, 2008 11:59 AM, Big Sky <bigskyagency wrote:

 

>

> I am noticing improvement in my sinus congestion by taking 4 digestive

> enzymes before going to bed. One night I had

> no congestion at all. That hasn't happened in years. It is not perfect but

> I see improvement. Thank you.

>

 

I happen to be a fan of digestive enzymes and probiotics. In my personal

opinion, they work somewhat quickly. I bring that up because I see some

people taking them for months and months with no benefit, which tells me

simply that they didn't need the enzymes and probiotics in the first place.

That's not a well-informed opinion, just my personal observation.

 

> Western medicine says this congestion is caused by the " not fully

> digested " food particles entering the blood stream which the body

> doesn't recognize and creates a allergic response. This makes sense.

>

 

That's a good observation. It's always nice when pathomechanisms line up.

 

I just have a couple of more questions:

>

> In TCM terms what is the connection between poor digestion, and my sinus

> congestion waking me up between 5:00 and 6;30 a.m.?

> I do notice my allergies waking me during allergy season at the same time

> too.

>

 

I think that if I were to connect your early morning congestion to anything,

I would default to the clock more commonly taught in TCM schools where 5-7

AM is associated with the Large Intestine. In your case, a reasonable

mechanism would be that dampness is created in the Earth element (digestion)

and stored in the Metal element (Lungs and Large Intestine). From the Lungs

they can rise to the nose for nasal congestion. But more likely, what's

going on here is that the dampness is also getting in to the Large Intestine

which has a channel that rises to the nose. So, dampness in the Stomach gets

into the LI, which rises to the nose and pops out during the LI time of the

day (5-7 AM).

 

Again, we have so many theories to chose from, it isn't difficult to

rationalize anything. That's why clinical outcomes matter, such as your

problem improving with digestive enzymes. That somewhat strengthens the case

for the Damp->Stomach->Large Intestine->channel->Nose mechanism.

 

> Lastly, you didn't mention a TCM herbal that would help my digestion ( I

> will drink more Ginger tea). Is there one you could recommend.

> I would also like one for repairing the walls of my large intestine. I

> believe I have what westerners call 'leaky gut " .

>

 

There's a commonly found premade formula in little tiny balls called Po Chai

Pills. You can google them and try that out too. They may be a good option

for you all around as they're readily available and address both food

stagnation as well as internal dampness. One vile before bed might be

perfect for you.

 

" Drying dampness " doesn't really jibe well with closing holes that are too

large in your intestines, to my knowledge there is no formula or herb that

has that particular action, however when we step back from the microscope a

bit and look at the pattern as it manifests before the naked eye, internal

dampness is often how it presents, and so that it how the TCM practitioner

would treat it.

 

There are actually many TCM practitioners, especially Western trained, who

will get all in to a new problem such as leaky gut, but not the Chinese

trained TCM folk. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I do hope

to get across that TCM as as a rule, favors looking at the whole

presentation, not the size of the holes in the intestines. That's just part

of our process, and it seems to work.

 

> Thanks again. I will definitely buy your book if you ever write one .

>

 

Well, now that you mention it, there is a book coming out that I

co-authored. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be called, but it is at

the publisher now going through final revisions and it should be available

inside of a few months.

 

It'll be published by Eastland Press and called something like " TCM

Diagnosis Study Guide " . This book assumes that the reader is at least a TCM

student. May not be much of a read for consumers.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.