Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 On Jan 22, 2008 8:08 PM, annisrina flower <annisrina wrote: > Doctor said i got mioma in my uterus ...did anybody know what herb > medicine for that heal.. > > Thanks > Hi Annisrina, In English we'll call " mioma " either a " myoma " or " uterine fibroid " . Not everybody feels the need to do anything about these, many times they really don't cause any problems. However if yours is causing pain or menstrual problems, Chinese medicine is very good at helping you out with this issue. From a TCM viewpoint, we need to first determine if the tumor would be considered blood stagnation, phlegm stagnation, or a combination of both. Those are the three usual ideas, but there are a few others though they're less common. Both acupuncture and herbs are commonly used to address myomas and I've seen plenty of women who have seen great improvement in their conditions with these two tools. However, if there are really no symptoms, you may choose to do nothing too. Many women get these, once you enter menopause the problem can go away on its own. However, because this is a Chinese medicine list, I should add that if you have blood stagnation and/or phlegm nodules in your abdomen, there is a good chance that you'll get blood stagnation or phlegm nodules elsewhere and that is not a good thing to ignore. So, even though you may not have any symptoms, it may be smart to treat this now, to prevent issues from arising in the future that Western medicine has not yet come to see as related to the myomas. Common formulas for myomas include the following: * Shi Xiao San* ( " sudden smile powder " , nice name!) is for sharp pains that are fixed in location (lower abdomen). This formula includes the feces (mierda) of the flying squirrel. If you're a vegetarian or avoid animal products for religious reasons, you might avoid this formula, though I'm told that it is quite effective for blood stagnation pain in women. It sounds weird, but it is a very effective " herb " . A longer but more comprehensive approach to blood stagnation type myomas would be addressed by *Ge Xia Zhu Yu Tang* (literally: diaphragm below remove stagnation decoction). This is something that can be taken for a few months and in many cases, the fibroids can shrink. The appearance of the tongue that would suggest the need for this formula will have a purple hue. You might need to compare your tongue to others in your household to get a sense of if your tongue is purple or not. The tongue can also appear dim, as if there is less color intensity than the other tongues in your circle of friends or family. The final option among those that come to mind (there are ALWAYS others, but I just present the most obvious choices for mailing lists) is a formula that addresses both phlegm and blood stagnation. It isn't a very strong formula, but that makes it appropriate for long-term use which is probably a good thing in this case. This formula is called *Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan*. Gui Zhi is cinnamon twig. It actually tastes good if you like cinnamon. Eating the cinnamon found in your spice rack will not provide any benefit, there's a difference between herbs used for cooking and medicine. This Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan is a formula that is most appropriate when there are indications of phlegm or dampness such as a slippery full pulse or a tongue coating that is so thick that you cannot see through it to the tongue body proper. This tongue coating may be limited to the back half of the tongue too (the half closest to the throat). Another indication would be a tongue that is taking on the shape of the teeth, so you see indentations of the teeth around the edge of the tongue. You'll need to relax your tongue and let it fall out like a dog that is panting to see these teethmarks. There are plenty of subtle shades in between the formulas listed here too, and of course herbs to address specific symptoms can be added or subtracted from these formulas to help them target your particular issue more closely. I'm sorry that I can't tell which *one herb* will fix your myoma. Chinese medicine doesn't work like that, your question is like asking " which herb will make my soup taste better? " You have to know what the other ingredients are in the soup, etc... -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thanks for your explanation al, it help me so much... I try to tell u from the begining. In Septeber 2007 i got sick, ultra sonograohic result something in my uterus an ginecholog said i got 1 myoma diametre 7cm, second doctor said i got 3 myoma.But both of doctor didnt give medicines exceply suggest me to check it about 3 months later. In 1997 i was operated endometriosis and in 2000 i was operated caused kista. So i have twice time be operated. My niece suggested me to use accupresure and herb medicine. Usually I get theraphy accupressure before menstruation because i feel not good in my lower abdomen before menstruatuin and after accupresure i feel better and usually i get menstruation just for 2 days. For oral medicine i use capsule contain andrographidis herb+curcuma zedoariae rhizoma + gynurae pseudochina follium 3 times a day. Al, for my condition which one better for me between accupressure or accupunture ?...and how often i should get theraphy ? If i easy to find cinnamon twig, how to make it medicine? I would like to say thank you for your respond me ... Best regards annisrina Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2008 8:08 PM, annisrina flower <annisrina wrote: > > > Doctor said i got mioma in my uterus ...did anybody know what herb > > medicine for that heal.. > > > > Thanks > > Hi Annisrina, > > In English we'll call " mioma " either a " myoma " or " uterine fibroid " . > > Not everybody feels the need to do anything about these, many times they > really don't cause any problems. However if yours is causing pain or > menstrual problems, Chinese medicine is very good at helping you out with > this issue. > > From a TCM viewpoint, we need to first determine if the tumor would be > considered blood stagnation, phlegm stagnation, or a combination of both. > Those are the three usual ideas, but there are a few others though they're > less common. > > Both acupuncture and herbs are commonly used to address myomas and I've seen > plenty of women who have seen great improvement in their conditions with > these two tools. However, if there are really no symptoms, you may choose to > do nothing too. Many women get these, once you enter menopause the problem > can go away on its own. > > However, because this is a Chinese medicine list, I should add that if you > have blood stagnation and/or phlegm nodules in your abdomen, there is a good > chance that you'll get blood stagnation or phlegm nodules elsewhere and that > is not a good thing to ignore. So, even though you may not have any > symptoms, it may be smart to treat this now, to prevent issues from arising > in the future that Western medicine has not yet come to see as related to > the myomas. > > Common formulas for myomas include the following: > > * Shi Xiao San* ( " sudden smile powder " , nice name!) is for sharp pains that > are fixed in location (lower abdomen). This formula includes the feces > (mierda) of the flying squirrel. If you're a vegetarian or avoid animal > products for religious reasons, you might avoid this formula, though I'm > told that it is quite effective for blood stagnation pain in women. It > sounds weird, but it is a very effective " herb " . > > A longer but more comprehensive approach to blood stagnation type myomas > would be addressed by *Ge Xia Zhu Yu Tang* (literally: diaphragm below > remove stagnation decoction). This is something that can be taken for a few > months and in many cases, the fibroids can shrink. The appearance of the > tongue that would suggest the need for this formula will have a purple hue. > You might need to compare your tongue to others in your household to get a > sense of if your tongue is purple or not. The tongue can also appear dim, as > if there is less color intensity than the other tongues in your circle of > friends or family. > > The final option among those that come to mind (there are ALWAYS others, but > I just present the most obvious choices for mailing lists) is a formula that > addresses both phlegm and blood stagnation. It isn't a very strong formula, > but that makes it appropriate for long-term use which is probably a good > thing in this case. This formula is called *Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan*. Gui Zhi is > cinnamon twig. It actually tastes good if you like cinnamon. Eating the > cinnamon found in your spice rack will not provide any benefit, there's a > difference between herbs used for cooking and medicine. > > This Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan is a formula that is most appropriate when there > are indications of phlegm or dampness such as a slippery full pulse or a > tongue coating that is so thick that you cannot see through it to the tongue > body proper. This tongue coating may be limited to the back half of the > tongue too (the half closest to the throat). Another indication would be a > tongue that is taking on the shape of the teeth, so you see indentations of > the teeth around the edge of the tongue. You'll need to relax your tongue > and let it fall out like a dog that is panting to see these teethmarks. > > There are plenty of subtle shades in between the formulas listed here too, > and of course herbs to address specific symptoms can be added or subtracted > from these formulas to help them target your particular issue more closely. > > I'm sorry that I can't tell which *one herb* will fix your myoma. Chinese > medicine doesn't work like that, your question is like asking " which herb > will make my soup taste better? " You have to know what the other ingredients > are in the soup, etc... > > -al. > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 On Jan 23, 2008 11:43 PM, annisrina <annisrina wrote: > In 1997 i was operated endometriosis and in 2000 i was operated > caused kista. > I'm not quite sure what " kista " is, but endometriosis is commonly treated as either blood stagnation, phlegm stagnation, or a combination of both. (There are a few other ways to treat endometroisis, including chong/ren disharmony, but that's another story.) The point that I want to make is that when you see a pattern appearing in one place, such as your myoma/fibroids, it is likely that the problem will appear elsewhere as well, such as with endometrosis. I understand that from a Western standpoint, these are different animals, but from the TCM perspective, less so. > > For oral medicine i use capsule contain andrographidis herb+curcuma > zedoariae rhizoma + gynurae pseudochina follium 3 times a day. > I know the curcuma, but not the gynurae. The curcuma is okay, but again, since we don't know if you have blood stagnation, phlegm stagnation or none-of-the-above, it is really difficult to comment on whether these are good choices for you. Ultimately, if you find it helps, but it must be okay. > Al, for my condition which one better for me between accupressure or > accupunture ?...and how often i should get theraphy ? > Either is fine. I would think that acupuncture is stronger, but if the sensation of being poked by needles is uncomfortable for you, then the acupressure is a reasonable alternative. Getting a treatment or two during the week before your period, or at the onset of your period is perfectly acceptable. " How often " really comes down to your response to the therapy. If it is working, then that is often enough. If you have pain, discomfort, short periods, etc., then you need to do it more often. Something like that. If i easy to find cinnamon twig, how to make it medicine? > Well, I wouldn't go out breaking off pieces of a cinnamon tree, rather track down the complete formula names that I mentioned in a recent post. Honestly, you need to begin with a good clear diagnosis. I don't know where you are, but if there are TCM practitioners nearby, that's where I would begin to look for help on this. If you don't know where to look, I would suggest seeking out the immigrant Chinese communities that are common in large metropolitan areas. They often have herb stores, and in these stores are herbalists who will take your pulse, look at your tongue, etc. They may not be able to communicate verbally well with you, but by putting your hands on your lower abdomen and sawing " ow " or making a face of pain, that may be all the more information that they need. Where are you? -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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