Herbs for seizures (Was: Another canine question, also liver related)

[Guest guest]

> Whatcha using? Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin?

 

No. I tried the standard patent formulas, and they didn't work. So, for the

raw herbs, I went with a modified Ding Xian Wan, which I used for a month,

and then created 2 formulas with similiar functions, (but no overlap in

herbs), that I alternate back and forth between, to avoid habituation, and

hopefully to avoid any side effects. For the original formula, (first

month), I removed these from Ding Xian Wan: chuan bei mu, shi chang pu, quan

xie, hu po, deng xin cao, mai men dong, zhu sha , zhu li, and jiang zhi. I

added bai bian dou, he huan pi, di long, chan tui, and bai shao. I don't

know if anyone is interested in the whole list of herbs that I'm using, and

dosages, but I can post that if there is interest.

 

All 3 of my dogs drink the " tea " from cooked herbs, and they all seem to

love the taste. (Different formulas for the different dogs, of course.) The

Dane with epilepsy puts his head on the counter when I'm cooking the herbs,

and can't wait to drink them. A friend's dog, who is a very picky eater,

recently started on cooked herbs, too. He also really perks up when he

smells the herbs, and can't wait to drink them. Dogs may have less of a

problem with compliance than humans. :-)

Jeri

[Guest guest]

On Dec 12, 2007 11:42 AM, kurvenal <kurvenal wrote:

 

> > Whatcha using? Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin?

>

> No. I tried the standard patent formulas, and they didn't work. So, for

> the

> raw herbs, I went with a modified Ding Xian Wan,[...] I

> added bai bian dou, he huan pi, di long, chan tui, and bai shao.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why the chan tui?

 

For those on this list who aren't up to speed on this herb, it is the

moulting of the cicada bug. They have a very loud call. Growing up in

Nebraska (rural state in middle of USA), we called them the weeee-oooo bugs

as that's how they sounded on hot summer nights.

 

The energetic property is cold and sweet, some say it is salty too. It

enters the Lung and Liver. Because we use its skin, this herb rightly has an

effect on the superficial levels where we'll find the common cold or flu.

Because this is a cold herb, it is used for wind heat or a cold/flu with

more of a fever than chills. This herb can restore the voice if you lose it,

likely due to its nature as a really really loud bug, and that the Lungs are

the power behind one's voice, and the Lungs dominate the skin.

 

It is also used to guide the effect of other herbs to the skin. And it helps

get rid of rashes, presumably those that are warm/red in nature.

 

Finally it is used for pediatric convulsions. This is probably why it has

been added to a seizure formula, but I would think that the indications for

this use would include a high fever. No? It also enters the Liver from which

internal wind arises leading to spasms and tremors, convulsions, etc.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> Why the chan tui?

<snip>

> It also enters the Liver from which

> internal wind arises leading to spasms and tremors, convulsions, etc.

 

Yep, that's why. Chan tui can also help the eyes, and my dog has very little

vision, (genetic defect), along with the beginnings of cataracts, (even

though he was a puppy when that was diagnosed), and his eyes were very red.

So, the dual role of helping spasms, tremors, and convulsions, and of

helping the eyes, made it worth including in the formula. Aside from the

grand mal seizures, he did have a lot of myclonic seizures, too. And, lots

of heat, as well as blood stasis.

 

Jeri