Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hello, I'm new to the Group and this is my very first posting.I have a lot of problem with my Digestion.I experience bloating,belching,gas.I occasionally wake up with lower Colon cramping (trapped Gas) and feel Nauseated some.At times I have lower Colon cramps (especially if I go awhile without eating then eat) that is relieved by having Bowel movements.Sometimes I salivate (Mouth fills with Water) and belch when this happens.I have greasy looking stools that float or sink and undigested Food.Someone mentioned dampness in the Gut which throws off triple heater.She said it's not enough Digestive fires and is a throwing off the Bowels and other major Organs.Was wondering if this may be what I'm experiencing and what I can do about it. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi there, I don't know you well enough to make an accurate diagnosis but most people I know with your symptoms can easily be cured. For most it is as simple as a change in habits, for example, drinking more water, eating smaller portions of food, & chewing their food more completely before swallowing, choosing healthier food, & getting regular exercise, & yes it is normally that easy, but not always. I hope this helps, Ian. Chinese Traditional Medicine , " kendayamos_woman " <kendayamos_woman wrote: > > Hello, > I'm new to the Group and this is my very first posting.I have a lot of > problem with my Digestion.I experience bloating,belching,gas.I > occasionally wake up with lower Colon cramping (trapped Gas) and feel > Nauseated some.At times I have lower Colon cramps (especially if I go > awhile without eating then eat) that is relieved by having Bowel > movements.Sometimes I salivate (Mouth fills with Water) and belch when > this happens.I have greasy looking stools that float or sink and > undigested Food.Someone mentioned dampness in the Gut which throws off > triple heater.She said it's not enough Digestive fires and is a > throwing off the Bowels and other major Organs.Was wondering if this > may be what I'm experiencing and what I can do about it. > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 On Dec 8, 2007 2:39 AM, kendayamos_woman <kendayamos_woman wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the Group and this is my very first posting.I have a lot of > problem with my Digestion.I experience bloating,belching,gas.I > occasionally wake up with lower Colon cramping (trapped Gas) and feel > Nauseated some.At times I have lower Colon cramps (especially if I go > awhile without eating then eat) that is relieved by having Bowel > movements.Sometimes I salivate (Mouth fills with Water) and belch when > this happens.I have greasy looking stools that float or sink and > undigested Food.Someone mentioned dampness in the Gut which throws off > triple heater.She said it's not enough Digestive fires and is a > throwing off the Bowels and other major Organs.Was wondering if this > may be what I'm experiencing and what I can do about it. > Hi K, Yeah, it does look like some dampness going on here. There are a few ways to treat this, I myself prefer herbs, but that's a personal choice that may not be agreed with across the board. Here's the deal, there are a few reasons that one may develop internal damp. The most common reason is called Spleen qi deficiency. Basically this is saying that your digestion ain't that efficient. Spleen qi looks like digestive enzymes and friendly bacteria if you need to put it on the biomedical map. The hard part is coming up with a clear cause of your Spleen qi deficiency. Your contact who mentioned " digestive fires " is considering one possible cause. In TCM as it is practiced in the PRC, we'd call this Spleen yang deficiency. Basically this is saying that your metabolic heat is not warm enough to really fuel the functions of the digestion. If you feel colder than everybody in the room then this may be an accurate diagnosis and the formula Li Zhong Wan is indicated. More commonly is this Spleen qi deficiency without feeling colder than everybody else. In this case, the formula Liu Jun Zi Tang should do the trick. If this whole shootin' match is aggravated by stress, that's called a Liver/Spleen disharmony and what's causing the Spleen qi deficiency is another organ that got pissed off and is taking it out on the Spleen. This is also called Liver attacking Spleen, or Wood overacting on Earth. In this case, xiao yao san is okay, as is tong xie yao feng. Not sure really which would be best for you given only your symptoms and none of your signs (such as tongue appearance, pulse qualities, etc.) Other causes that are more external in origin include eating foods that are difficult to digest. You know, if you stick a trailer on a small car and try to drag it up a steep grade, the car will have problems, but it isn't that the car is qi deficient, but that its trying to pull too much. Diet can have that same effect on Spleen qi when you're eating things that are difficult to digest. The usual suspects of things that are difficult to digest include raw foods (yes, you heard me), dairy, greasy, fatty things. If you feel the need to eat raw foods, consider eating them for lunch rather than dinner while the external environment is warmer and can help the body break down the cold natured raw foods. Other supplements that I like for Spleen qi deficiency with dampness include digestive enzymes and friendly bacterial supplements, whatever you like. Yogurt is actually okay for a dairy product provided it is alive inside. I've written extensively on TCM and poop. For more, please see: http://beyondwellbeing.com/ibs/ -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 --- Al Stone <al wrote: Al, I just skimmed the main article on your page, and will read it again more in depth--it is excellent to learn more about this! While I've also had digestive problems for years and want to investigate, I did have a cat who had IBD (for some reason this is how IBS is referred to in animals) and eventually she passed from intestinal cancer. I have since read many times that IBD is " intestinal cancer on the way " --I'm assuming if it cannot be corrected/balanced. Do you think this is the case? > I've written extensively on TCM and poop. For more, > please see: > http://beyondwellbeing.com/ibs/ > > -al. > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Tamara " One can be sincere, but still be sincerely wrong. " -- Irene Spencer ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 On Dec 8, 2007 10:57 PM, Tamara <savepawsfurever wrote: > I have since read many times that > IBD is " intestinal cancer on the way " --I'm assuming if > it cannot be corrected/balanced. Do you think this is > the case? > Lots of IBD/IBS cases have at their root a stress-induced condition called qi stagnation. This can be thought of as a neurological issue where the nervous system isn't giving the digestive system the right signals in order to do its job. In TCM, qi stagnation can lead to blood stagnation. Blood stagnation isn't so much neurological as it is obviously circulatory, but can also get lumpy and that's where we begin to see tumors. They're not all malignant, but they're more physical than what you'll get with qi stagnation. Qi stagnation *can* lead to blood stagnation but IBD doesn't necessarily lead to cancer all the time. Qi stagnation is very easily addressed in humans. Because it is often stress-induced, lifestyle changes and many alternative therapies are really good for this. Catching the problem earlier can prevent it from becoming a tumor and often does. I don't know what kind of thing gives a cat a stress-induced problem (neighbor dogs? social problems within a cat's pride?) but in people, a lot of the mind-body type therapies really help such as meditation, religion, exercise, etc... Its hard to think that most normal cats which are extremely zen to begin with, can be worried about anything. That being said, there are some other causes for qi stagnation, but they're usually going the opposite direction. For instance, bad digestion causes dampness, and dampness can prevent qi from circulating well, leading to a backup which can degenerate into blood stagnation. Just a thought... I've never seen this in animals, but if a pet is really overweight, this could be a dampness leading to stagnation problem. -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. http://beyondwellbeing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 LOL--yes, cats are indeed very zen. Faye was always very shy, hiding always when people came over. Very sweet natured, but shy. Also 11 years before she passed, a tornado hit our town while I was out for the evening. Not expecting any storm issues, I left all the windows open, so the brunt of the rain and wind was felt and heard by my animals. She remained extremely fearful (in addition to her shyness) of any wind or storm sounds. Her physical health problems began (or were noticed by me) 3 years before she passed, starting with either the kidneys or the thyroid, causing heart damage, and during this time, she was diagnosed with IBD. Cats who are treated for thyroid imbalance (usually hyperactive) are often soon thereafter dianosed with kidney deterioration. Thyroid imbalance also leads to heart problems, namely cardiomyopathy. This is probably way more than you wanted to know :-) --- Al Stone <al wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007 10:57 PM, Tamara > <savepawsfurever wrote: > > > I have since read many times that > > IBD is " intestinal cancer on the way " --I'm > assuming if > > it cannot be corrected/balanced. Do you think this > is > > the case? > > Lots of IBD/IBS cases have at their root a > stress-induced condition called > qi stagnation. This can be thought of as a > neurological issue where the > nervous system isn't giving the digestive system the > right signals in order > to do its job. > > In TCM, qi stagnation can lead to blood stagnation. > Blood stagnation isn't > so much neurological as it is obviously circulatory, > but can also get lumpy > and that's where we begin to see tumors. They're not > all malignant, but > they're more physical than what you'll get with qi > stagnation. Qi stagnation > *can* lead to blood stagnation but IBD doesn't > necessarily lead to cancer > all the time. > > Qi stagnation is very easily addressed in humans. > Because it is often > stress-induced, lifestyle changes and many > alternative therapies are really > good for this. Catching the problem earlier can > prevent it from becoming a > tumor and often does. > > I don't know what kind of thing gives a cat a > stress-induced problem > (neighbor dogs? social problems within a cat's > pride?) but in people, a lot > of the mind-body type therapies really help such as > meditation, religion, > exercise, etc... > > Its hard to think that most normal cats which are > extremely zen to begin > with, can be worried about anything. That being > said, there are some other > causes for qi stagnation, but they're usually going > the opposite direction. > For instance, bad digestion causes dampness, and > dampness can prevent qi > from circulating well, leading to a backup which can > degenerate into blood > stagnation. Just a thought... I've never seen this > in animals, but if a pet > is really overweight, this could be a dampness > leading to stagnation > problem. > > -al. > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > http://beyondwellbeing.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Tamara " One can be sincere, but still be sincerely wrong. " -- Irene Spencer ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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