Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 http://answers./question/index?qid=20100106125217AAZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJKngAKKU5ybum As you will see, the mainstream denialists are doing their usual thing and taking shots in the process. Thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Those who are "ready" to listen to alternative approaches will listen, and those who are "true believers" in the "Death Squad" will not. So let them die, that is their choice. All deaths are suicides, and whoever chooses that route KNOWS on a deeper level what they are doing. I am NOT unsympathetic... just rational. "Free will" is a gift from the Universe and whether it be to live or to die, it is still a precious individual unalienable right. I believe what I have documentation, physical evidence, and research to support, however it is STILL my personal chosen belief. If "Chuck" chooses to believe that alopathic "slash/burn/poison" is better for him, that is his perogative. NEV --- On Thu, 1/7/10, wrote: TonyI Anyone want tohelp out on a Answers question?oleander soup Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:43 AM http://answers. / question/ index?qid= 20100106125217AA ZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJKngAKKU 5ybum As you will see, the mainstream denialists are doing their usual thing and taking shots in the process. Thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Good points Nev, but . . . What about those who have not made their mind up one way or another? Also, Answers is very highly indexed in the search engines. To let the mainstream denialist hold sway gives the appearance that the majority of people are against alternative cancer treatments of any kind and against natural healing. Sometimes I feel like I am beating my head into the wall with all the mainstream naysayers there (and the kids asking about getting high), but I am trying to do my part to get truth out. And, though I must be careful to allocate my time wisely, if I help people and if I save but a single life of someone who listens, then it is worth it. Plus, people do change their minds. I did. All the best, oleander soup , Watcher <englishvinal wrote:>> Those who are "ready" to listen to alternative approaches will listen, and those who are "true believers" in the "Death Squad" will not. > Â > So let them die, that is their choice. > Â > All deaths are suicides, and whoever chooses that route KNOWS on a deeper level what they are doing.> Â > I am NOT unsympathetic... just rational. "Free will" is a gift from the Universe and whether it be to live or to die, it is still a precious individual unalienable right. I believe what I have documentation, physical evidence, and research to support, however it is STILL my personal chosen belief. If "Chuck" chooses to believe that alopathic "slash/burn/poison" is better for him, that is his perogative.> Â > NEV> Â > > > --- On Thu, 1/7/10, wrote:> > > Anyone want tohelp out on a Answers question?> oleander soup > Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:43 AM> > > Â > > > > > http://answers. / question/ index?qid= 20100106125217AA ZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJKngAKKU 5ybum> As you will see, the mainstream denialists are doing their usual thing and taking shots in the process.> Thanks> Tony> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Hi Tony and everyone,If there's one thing I've noticed, it's that folks need to hear things over and over again until it resides in the grey matter permanently. That's why advertisers schedule ads repeatedly. Tony, your posts are always to the point, never shrill or emotional or 'whacky' but sound like reasonable tidbits of information. We have no way of knowing the cascade effect of people trying to prove you wrong by going on certain links to learn about the weird alt health remedies then finding out they may have been wrong all along. Frankly, this occurred between you and me without you knowing about it. Certain truths were rejected by me as I held firmly to certain political stances until I read a few posts you made over at curezone. As I had a high regard for your messages here, I decided to go off and look up what you were talking about (it's not health related). A whole world opened up to me and I am passing on this to my family and friends. Keep up the fight.Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 this is the problem with politicizing health care. the comments made by tony's detractors are as childish and bayardly as the fanatics in the pub-dem contest.they are also a bunch of atheists. they dont believe god when he says that a person reaps what they have sown.i like the dr schultz quote: "If you have a serious life-threatening disease, and decide to heal yourself naturally using a wholistic practitioner, the healing process should disrupt your entire life."and then, from the book "minerals for the genetic code" by charles walters, page 9: "just the same, every form of cancer is a child of selenium deficiency."so-called "carcinogens" are actually triggers for beginning the cancer process, not the root cause themselves. there is a reason that a healthy person doesnt get sick - there are no serious deficiencies in nutrients and the body is able to repair and replace without hindrance.cancer is a result of lifestyle, diet being primary. those ignorant people calling tony irresponsible are the pot calling the kettle black. they are the ones who dont want to take responsibility for their own health but instead blame god and demand the government fix it. good luck to them with that.oleander soup From: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:43:01 +0000 Anyone want tohelp out on a Answers question? http://answers./question/index?qid=20100106125217AAZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJKngAKKU5ybum As you will see, the mainstream denialists are doing their usual thing and taking shots in the process. Thanks Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Absolutely love this Dr. Schultz quote – because it is true. Natural cancer treatment disrupted my life tremendously. I was doing things to get my body healthy 24/7. I had experienced one month of horrible chemo and its side effects and knew that it would take my life if I continued. Over and over I said to my alt med doc “I just want my life back.” Little did I realize that my life was now changed forever – it was my responsibility to make it a good change or a bad change. It took my desire, discipline and determination and two great coaches to accomplish healing. Eventually the protocol and diet become second nature and good habits formed. I find that many with cancer or degenerative disease don’t want to change or highly resist changing the very thing that played a huge part in getting sick…..that is lifestyle and diet. I believe this comes from conventional medicine continually discrediting lifestyle and diet when it comes to cancer/degenerative disease. Their solutions are almost always palliative in nature with drugs as the answer. Preventative medicine is hard to grasp for a society who is engulfed in convenience and not used to taking personal responsibility for much of anything. We want everything on “our” terms with no disruption and little effort. Unfortunately, without total lifestyle change, results are usually unfavorable and then are blamed on natural medicine. Yes, life does go on even if we are fighting a disease and no one stops to wait for us to catch up. However….Either we make the time to get well or we will take the time to be sick. It’s a choice. Be Well Dr.L Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Facebook i like the dr schultz quote: " If you have a serious life-threatening disease, and decide to heal yourself naturally using a wholistic practitioner, the healing process should disrupt your entire life. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 FIRST : Cancer is eventually genetic in only 3% of the cases at most !! A report prepared for the US Congress in 1981, estimated that genetics only determines about 2-3% of total cancer risk See : why nutrition is more determinant than genetics : http://www.jmbblog.com/nutrition-and-can… -----… Dr. Dean Ornish, head of the Preventive Medicine Research Institute in Sausalito, California, is a well-known author advocating lifestyle changes to improve health. Dr. Ornish is also affiliated with the University of California at San Francisco. He recently reported on the Gene Expression Modulation by Intervention with Nutrition and Lifestyle (GEMINAL) study. This study indicated that making positive changes in one's diet, exercise, and stress management can affect more than a person's weight. Dr. Ornish's study was published in the June 16, 2008 edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The implications of this study go beyond men and prostate cancer. People are not doomed by their genetics. They can make positive changes fairly quickly. In three months, genetic changes can be made through the choices we make in food, exercise, and the way we handle stress. See Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzi0DJwO… Genes can't predict disease, see : http://www.jmbblog.com/genes-cant-predic… -----… If you want to know more about Barrett who operates the web site www.quackwatch.org , www.chirobase.org and 20 other web sites you may read : http://www.healthfreedomlaw.com/ Quack,Quack, Quack...The de-bunker has been de-bunked..IoI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 TonyI wrote: > > > http://answers./question/index?qid=20100106125217AAZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJKn\ gAKKU5ybum > <http://answers./question/index?qid=20100106125217AAZTxdZ & r=w#JJIrJkHJK\ ngAKKU5ybum> > > As you will see, the mainstream denialists are doing their usual thing > and taking shots in the process. > > Thanks > > > Tony, here is another good link for the Quackwatch quack. We just all need to stick together on there, give each other thumbs up and support each other's questions and responses. Most important is to report flamers and the illicit drug questions. http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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