Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Marie, You must! You must! In life, we can only try. But there are forces beyond our knowledge. Beyond our understanding. We all are destined to go "home." All we can ask is to be allowed to transition with no pain and in peace. Bless you sweet lady. You must go on for you and your family. Teach others how to live! love and kisses Rich In a message dated 12/29/2009 9:14:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, infomcf writes: I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it.I just don't know how to carry on.Marie--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. I just don't know how to carry on. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie, I don't know what Malcom died from, nor do I know what he was treated with, but life does go on for those of us fortunate to still be living in this world. You must carry on. Do you have any loved ones or family and friends? They may be able to give you some solace at a time like this. We are all here for you and feel your anguish, hurt, and pain. With time it will pass and Malcom will become a wonderful memory. May he rest in peace. With love, Bob - " infomcf " <infomcf <oleander soup > Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:13 PM How can I go on? >I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas >morning. > > He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he > just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. > > I just don't know how to carry on. > > Marie > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie, Bless your heart. I am so sorry. You will be getting some wonderful warm messages from the group, with much better advice and help than I can give, but know that I'm hurting with you now and praying for you. Shara infomcf <infomcf oleander soup Tue, Dec 29, 2009 8:13 pm How can I go on? I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. I just don't know how to carry on. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie, I am so sorry for your loss! Sometimes things just don't work and we don't always know why. But be assured that he is not suffering any longer and there must have been other plans for him. He would want you to go on and enjoy the rest of your life I'm sure. Sending you light and love, Donna ACS > I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on > Christmas morning. > > He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet > he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. > > I just don't know how to carry on. > > Marie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie - I am so very, very sorry to hear of Malcomb's passing. Though it is small consolation, we know that you and Malcomb did all you could possibly to to fight this evil disease. I share your tears and I would give anything to have been able to help more. Sadly, Marie, there is no 100% cure for cancer and that includes my beloved oleander and every other bit of advice that I have gathered to be the best I can come up with. Even then, though the best we can figure is that a good protocol built around oleander is about 95% successful for phase I and II cancers and about 85% with phase III and IV, it still is not 100%. So very much depends on the type and stage of cancer, the individual's overall health and immune system and whether or not there has been any prior mainstream treatments, especially chemo and/or radiation. Though it cannot compare to your loss, it tears my heart out whenever anyone loses their battle and I feel like I have lost a member of my family when that happens in our group here. That is why I keep researching and refining as best I can to find ways to be even more successful, because not one single loss is acceptible to me no matter how many are saved. Sometimes it is so damned hard and painful to understand why God recalls one of his special angels, but life will go on for you as it must, even though it may seem hard to imagine now. Take it one day at a time and try your best to think of all the good times you had together and cherish those memories instead of dwelling on the bad times and your loss. That way, Malcomb will still be with you and dwell in your heart forever. I wish you all the very best and want you to know that we are here for you however you need us. oleander soup , "infomcf" <infomcf wrote:>> I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. > > He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it.> > I just don't know how to carry on.> > Marie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie,Right now you live one hour at a time. You think only about what you will do for the next hour, and then the net one. Is there anyone nearby to help you, to be with you, to get you out of the house for a while, to go for a walk? A friend, or relative?His loss is a huge hole in your life, that only fills in very slowly. Just know, as you ask why, and question what else you could have done, and go over the if onlys again and again, that you went way beyond what anyone else would do.Grief is a tough job, and if my experience is any indication, probably the hardest thing you will do, but you have shown us that you are up to it, by how hard you worked for Malcolm.Don't be embarrassed by your grief, don't try to stuff it or hide it. It will ambush you when you least expect it, and when that happens, just let it out.I hope you stay with us here, and take good care of yourself, because you can honor Malcolm by helping others with the knowledge you gained in helping him fight this.You are in our prayers,Ted --- On Tue, 12/29/09, infomcf <infomcf wrote:infomcf <infomcf How can I go on?oleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 9:13 PM I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. I just don't know how to carry on. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie,I am so very sorry. Please accept my heartfelt condolensces. The death of one we love is nothing less than a tragedy. Yet, we must go on. Malcolm in no way ceased to exist. He has moved on to a new life. Our life on earth is just a small part of the vast cosmos, something that man still does not fully understand. As a baby is born into this world, when we leave this earth, we are born into a new life, a life that we do not fully comprehend. One thing of which you can be assured, he is no longer ill, no longer in pain. And Marie, he would want you to go on. Death does not break the bonds of love, please know that.I, as some here on the forum, am familiar with the pain of losing a cherished one and we are here to help you the best we can. Please, if the need arises, do call on us. Sadly, nothing is 100%, not even Oleander. There are many physical factors that come into play which Tony explained. However, there are also spiritual factors that we don't fully understand. Sometimes, it is just our appointed time to move on and this is not a bad thing, as life never truly ends at this point, it merely changes. During this time, please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. And please know that we are here for you during this time of sorrow. Just take it one step at a time. And know that Malcolm is on the other side still loving you.Please accept this virtual hug. Please know that we are all here for you. May These are The Best Years in LifeColloidal Silver/Supplements Utopia SilverCome visit Curezone Health Forum andCancer Natural Health Forum at Let's keep our furkids healthy at Oleander Soup for Pets infomcf <infomcfoleander soup Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:13:28 PM How can I go on? I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. I just don't know how to carry on. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie, I am so sorry to hear the sad news :(My condolences :(On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:13 PM, infomcf <infomcf wrote: I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it. I just don't know how to carry on. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie I am so sorry to hear about Malcom's passing and I know you must feel like your world has collapsed. I hardly know what to say as I was praying for him too. I know you are upset because the anti-cancer protocol did not work and you are probably in shock right about now with all you are having to deal with. I also realize that I cannot say one thing to make you feel better; as it is such a shock when we loose someone, even when we are expecting it. But I hope that you can find the time to just be with your emotions and allow yourself to grieve. We are all here for you Marie. Don't hesitate to reach out to us. You are going to be OK ...even though you may feel frightened right now. and your Malcom is out of sight but not really gone...he will always be as close as your thoughts. I am here for you..and I will continue to keep you in my prayers Marie....you take good care. Love and blessings. bobbi henderson - infomcf oleander soup Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:13 PM How can I go on? I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it.I just don't know how to carry on.Marie Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release 12/29/09 07:47:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Oh Marie i'm so sorry sweet heart. But this very minute you dont need to think at how to carry on, just take one day at a time and know i'm thinking of you and Malcom, and believe me i know how you feel and the only think that makes me angry, is that i can not be with you to hold you and take your pain away, i wish i could. I hope Malcom pass on peacefully without pain and you by his side, i will not say no more as words mean nothing to you right now, just take care of you. Hugs Mary - infomcf oleander soup Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:13 PM How can I go on? I just wanted to let everyone know that Malcolm passed away on Christmas morning. He followed Tony's anti-cancer protocol since early this year and yet he just got worse and worse. I just don't understand it.I just don't know how to carry on.Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Marie, I understand your state completely. My life-partner, wife, friend and EVERYTHING passed away 6 weeks ago. We had a 29 year 24/7 relationship and I was devastated and broke down. I had people around me who helped considerably simply by their presence. From my experience I see there has to be a conscious decision to go on- for whatever reason. I felt that I have nothing to do here without her. I decided that I cannot allow my kids and family to have a double tragedy- lose a mother and a sister and then lose a father shortly afterwards. I decided to stay. I gathered myself together and embarked on a program of healing myself and family and encouraging those around me. I spoke of the fact that she lives on another plane, is doing important work there and that we here feel her loss and grieve in her absence but life goes on here and she there in her way. I spoke about how she would want us to live. She loved us all and would therefore want us to be happy and develop and grow. When alone I sometimes break into sobbing tears many a time. Six weeks later I still feel that I have had part of me torn away and a gaping wound left open. BUT- I feel a relief, a healing process happening and I interlude between a calm peace and down periods. Someone commented here that grief can ambush you suddenly. Yesterday I went shopping in a quite calm and peaceful state-on my back to the car I suddenly broke into tears for a few minutes. Then everything back to normal. I go through a roller coaster of emotions but I feel that on the whole I am healing and improving. I KNOW that one day she and I will be reunited but that in the meantime we both have separate work to do on different levels. I have much to say about this but I will conclude with encouragement- the process is hard, very hard but with will and work you can carry on, build your life anew and carry Malcolm inside with you. I do not know how you relate to death- for me a great comfort is that I see it as a doorway to another reality. So at least I know that whoever has passed on has simply done that. I am sorry if this is a long rant but if anything I write here is of help then it's worth it. Two other very important points- 1- Eat well during this period. Whatever you feel you need. And do not deny yourself stuff. I eat very natural foods generally but during this period I have had a couple of chocolates binges- it calmed me (physically) during some very difficult moments. Make sure to get a lot of B vitamins- good for the nerves. 2- Bach flower remedies- I made treatment bottles for myself and family. They need to made up individually according to a person's state but I find a general treatment for initial grief is Rescue Remedy (general calmimg), walnut (to adjust to a new situation) and white chestnut (for persistant obsessive thought). Add whatever else needed . Good luck, a long road ahead of both of us in this process…we will make it. Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Jeremy What a lovely post...made me cry. You are doing well. Love and blessings. bobbi henderson .. - jeremy7il oleander soup Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:07 AM RE: How can I go on? Marie,I understand your state completely. My life-partner, wife, friend and EVERYTHING passed away 6 weeks ago. We had a 29 year 24/7 relationship and I was devastated and broke down. I had people around me who helped considerably simply by their presence. From my experience I see there has to be a conscious decision to go on- for whatever reason. I felt that I have nothing to do here without her. I decided that I cannot allow my kids and family to have a double tragedy- lose a mother and a sister and then lose a father shortly afterwards. I decided to stay. I gathered myself together and embarked on a program of healing myself and family and encouraging those around me. I spoke of the fact that she lives on another plane, is doing important work there and that we here feel her loss and grieve in her absence but life goes on here and she there in her way. I spoke about how she would want us to live. She loved us all and would therefore want us to be happy and develop and grow. When alone I sometimes break into sobbing tears many a time. Six weeks later I still feel that I have had part of me torn away and a gaping wound left open. BUT- I feel a relief, a healing process happening and I interlude between a calm peace and down periods. Someone commented here that grief can ambush you suddenly. Yesterday I went shopping in a quite calm and peaceful state-on my back to the car I suddenly broke into tears for a few minutes. Then everything back to normal. I go through a roller coaster of emotions but I feel that on the whole I am healing and improving. I KNOW that one day she and I will be reunited but that in the meantime we both have separate work to do on different levels. I have much to say about this but I will conclude with encouragement- the process is hard, very hard but with will and work you can carry on, build your life anew and carry Malcolm inside with you. I do not know how you relate to death- for me a great comfort is that I see it as a doorway to another reality. So at least I know that whoever has passed on has simply done that. I am sorry if this is a long rant but if anything I write here is of help then it's worth it.Two other very important points-1- Eat well during this period. Whatever you feel you need. And do not deny yourself stuff. I eat very natural foods generally but during this period I have had a couple of chocolates binges- it calmed me (physically) during some very difficult moments. Make sure to get a lot of B vitamins- good for the nerves.2- Bach flower remedies- I made treatment bottles for myself and family. They need to made up individually according to a person's state but I find a general treatment for initial grief is Rescue Remedy (general calmimg), walnut (to adjust to a new situation) and white chestnut (for persistant obsessive thought). Add whatever else needed . Good luck, a long road ahead of both of us in this process…we will make it.Jeremy Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release 12/30/09 07:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Jeremy,your msg touched my whole being!!! Thank you Love to you Efi .. - jeremy7il oleander soup Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:07 AM RE: How can I go on? Marie,I understand your state completely. My life-partner, wife, friend and EVERYTHING passed away 6 weeks ago. We had a 29 year 24/7 relationship and I was devastated and broke down. I had people around me who helped considerably simply by their presence. From my experience I see there has to be a conscious decision to go on- for whatever reason. I felt that I have nothing to do here without her. I decided that I cannot allow my kids and family to have a double tragedy- lose a mother and a sister and then lose a father shortly afterwards. I decided to stay. I gathered myself together and embarked on a program of healing myself and family and encouraging those around me. I spoke of the fact that she lives on another plane, is doing important work there and that we here feel her loss and grieve in her absence but life goes on here and she there in her way. I spoke about how she would want us to live. She loved us all and would therefore want us to be happy and develop and grow. When alone I sometimes break into sobbing tears many a time. Six weeks later I still feel that I have had part of me torn away and a gaping wound left open. BUT- I feel a relief, a healing process happening and I interlude between a calm peace and down periods. Someone commented here that grief can ambush you suddenly. Yesterday I went shopping in a quite calm and peaceful state-on my back to the car I suddenly broke into tears for a few minutes. Then everything back to normal. I go through a roller coaster of emotions but I feel that on the whole I am healing and improving. I KNOW that one day she and I will be reunited but that in the meantime we both have separate work to do on different levels. I have much to say about this but I will conclude with encouragement- the process is hard, very hard but with will and work you can carry on, build your life anew and carry Malcolm inside with you. I do not know how you relate to death- for me a great comfort is that I see it as a doorway to another reality. So at least I know that whoever has passed on has simply done that. I am sorry if this is a long rant but if anything I write here is of help then it's worth it.Two other very important points-1- Eat well during this period. Whatever you feel you need. And do not deny yourself stuff. I eat very natural foods generally but during this period I have had a couple of chocolates binges- it calmed me (physically) during some very difficult moments. Make sure to get a lot of B vitamins- good for the nerves.2- Bach flower remedies- I made treatment bottles for myself and family. They need to made up individually according to a person's state but I find a general treatment for initial grief is Rescue Remedy (general calmimg), walnut (to adjust to a new situation) and white chestnut (for persistant obsessive thought). Add whatever else needed . Good luck, a long road ahead of both of us in this process…we will make it.Jeremy Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release 12/30/09 07:27:00 ΧÏησιμοποιείτε ΒαÏεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά Î¼Î·Î½Ï Î¼Î±Ï„Î± (spam); Το Mail διαθÎτει την καλÏτεÏη δυνατή Ï€Ïοστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login./config/mail?.intl=gr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hi Jeremy. Your post remind me of a posts i sent to this group not long ego, and my heart goes out tou you, you said all the things that have happen to me the last 6 years and i understand where you are coming from. I wish you, Marie and everyone that lost their partners peace and strength to help you deal with your pain, i never stop talking to my husband telling him that's go shopping, or walking or what ever i have to do, and i find that helps me a lot, thinking he is by my side. Take care Jeremy as you have long way to go yet, but dont forget we are all together in this painful jerney, and our loved ones will die only when we forget them. Hugs Mary - jeremy7il oleander soup Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:07 PM RE: How can I go on? Marie,I understand your state completely. My life-partner, wife, friend and EVERYTHING passed away 6 weeks ago. We had a 29 year 24/7 relationship and I was devastated and broke down. I had people around me who helped considerably simply by their presence. From my experience I see there has to be a conscious decision to go on- for whatever reason. I felt that I have nothing to do here without her. I decided that I cannot allow my kids and family to have a double tragedy- lose a mother and a sister and then lose a father shortly afterwards. I decided to stay. I gathered myself together and embarked on a program of healing myself and family and encouraging those around me. I spoke of the fact that she lives on another plane, is doing important work there and that we here feel her loss and grieve in her absence but life goes on here and she there in her way. I spoke about how she would want us to live. She loved us all and would therefore want us to be happy and develop and grow. When alone I sometimes break into sobbing tears many a time. Six weeks later I still feel that I have had part of me torn away and a gaping wound left open. BUT- I feel a relief, a healing process happening and I interlude between a calm peace and down periods. Someone commented here that grief can ambush you suddenly. Yesterday I went shopping in a quite calm and peaceful state-on my back to the car I suddenly broke into tears for a few minutes. Then everything back to normal. I go through a roller coaster of emotions but I feel that on the whole I am healing and improving. I KNOW that one day she and I will be reunited but that in the meantime we both have separate work to do on different levels. I have much to say about this but I will conclude with encouragement- the process is hard, very hard but with will and work you can carry on, build your life anew and carry Malcolm inside with you. I do not know how you relate to death- for me a great comfort is that I see it as a doorway to another reality. So at least I know that whoever has passed on has simply done that. I am sorry if this is a long rant but if anything I write here is of help then it's worth it.Two other very important points-1- Eat well during this period. Whatever you feel you need. And do not deny yourself stuff. I eat very natural foods generally but during this period I have had a couple of chocolates binges- it calmed me (physically) during some very difficult moments. Make sure to get a lot of B vitamins- good for the nerves.2- Bach flower remedies- I made treatment bottles for myself and family. They need to made up individually according to a person's state but I find a general treatment for initial grief is Rescue Remedy (general calmimg), walnut (to adjust to a new situation) and white chestnut (for persistant obsessive thought). Add whatever else needed .. Good luck, a long road ahead of both of us in this process…we will make it.Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I am so sorry for your loss as I lost my companion of 28yrs. in 2003 and it does get easier but at first it doesn't seem like you want to go on. I am so glad you have decided to carry on with your life everyone close to you I am sure wouldn't have it any other way. The emotions you will go through are all normal one minute you are crying and the next laughing. but the memories will be with you forever so let them bring a smile to your face. Take care, Donna ACS > Marie, > I understand your state completely. My life-partner, wife, friend and > EVERYTHING passed away 6 weeks ago. We had a 29 year 24/7 relationship > and I was devastated and broke down. I had people around me who helped > considerably simply by their presence. From my experience I see there > has to be a conscious decision to go on- for whatever reason. I felt > that I have nothing to do here without her. I decided that I cannot > allow my kids and family to have a double tragedy- lose a mother and a > sister and then lose a father shortly afterwards. I decided to stay. I > gathered myself together and embarked on a program of healing myself > and family and encouraging those around me. I spoke of the fact that > she lives on another plane, is doing important work there and that we > here feel her loss and grieve in her absence but life goes on here and > she there in her way. I spoke about how she would want us to live. She > loved us all and would therefore want us to be happy and develop and > grow. When alone I sometimes break into sobbing tears many a time. Six > weeks later I still feel that I have had part of me torn away and a > gaping wound left open. BUT- I feel a relief, a healing process > happening and I interlude between a calm peace and down periods. > Someone commented here that grief can ambush you suddenly. Yesterday I > went shopping in a quite calm and peaceful state-on my back to the car > I suddenly broke into tears for a few minutes. Then everything back to > normal. I go through a roller coaster of emotions but I feel that on > the whole I am healing and improving. I KNOW that one day she and I > will be reunited but that in the meantime we both have separate work > to do on different levels. I have much to say about this but I will > conclude with encouragement- the process is hard, very hard but with > will and work you can carry on, build your life anew and carry Malcolm > inside with you. I do not know how you relate to death- for me a great > comfort is that I see it as a doorway to another reality. So at least > I know that whoever has passed on has simply done that. > I am sorry if this is a long rant but if anything I write here is of > help then it's worth it. > Two other very important points- > 1- Eat well during this period. Whatever you feel you need. And do not > deny yourself stuff. I eat very natural foods generally but during > this period I have had a couple of chocolates binges- it calmed me > (physically) during some very difficult moments. Make sure to get a > lot of B vitamins- good for the nerves. > 2- Bach flower remedies- I made treatment bottles for myself and > family. They need to made up individually according to a person's > state but I find a general treatment for initial grief is Rescue > Remedy (general calmimg), walnut (to adjust to a new situation) and > white chestnut (for persistant obsessive thought). Add whatever else > needed . > > Good luck, a long road ahead of both of us in this process…we will > make it. > > Jeremy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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