Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff! But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use. My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue? D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi D'Ann,Diarrhea is a common side effect. When this happens, they should reduce the dosage and wait for symptoms to abate. Then, increase the dosage slowly watching out for symptoms. Sometimes it takes the body a little while to become acclimated to Oleander. It is best to take it with meals. Tell them not to give up, the diarrhea will pass. oleander soup , "D Ann" <angelport wrote:>> I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff!> > But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use.> > My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue?> > D'Ann> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 D Ann: I could take 3 of the Sutherlandia pills (from South Africa) per day after meals with no problem, but when I tried to take the extract made in the U. S. I had to reduce the dose to 2 pills after breakfast otherwise I would wake at 2-3 AM up with severe diarrhea. I am a big guy, so smaller folks might be affected more strongly. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of D Ann Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:21 PM oleander soup ABOUT DIARRHEA I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff! But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use. My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue? D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Both the Sutherlandia OPC and the Rose Laurel Plus are made under my direction by the same pharmaceutical company in South Africa. The only difference is that the RLP capsules contain 100mg oleander concentrate whereas the S/OPC capsules contain 66mg. It is thus to be expected that if one takes the same dosage of both capsules, the RLP ones are more likely to lead to diarrhea. Marc Swanepoel - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA D Ann: I could take 3 of the Sutherlandia pills (from South Africa) per day after meals with no problem, but when I tried to take the extract made in the U. S. I had to reduce the dose to 2 pills after breakfast otherwise I would wake at 2-3 AM up with severe diarrhea. I am a big guy, so smaller folks might be affected more strongly. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of D AnnWednesday, December 16, 2009 12:21 PMoleander soup Subject: ABOUT DIARRHEA I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff!But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use.My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue?D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well I guess my tolerance level is about 200 mg. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Marc Swanepoel - PhD Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:01 PM oleander soup Re: ABOUT DIARRHEA Both the Sutherlandia OPC and the Rose Laurel Plus are made under my direction by the same pharmaceutical company in South Africa. The only difference is that the RLP capsules contain 100mg oleander concentrate whereas the S/OPC capsules contain 66mg. It is thus to be expected that if one takes the same dosage of both capsules, the RLP ones are more likely to lead to diarrhea. Marc Swanepoel ----- Original Message ----- Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA D Ann: I could take 3 of the Sutherlandia pills (from South Africa) per day after meals with no problem, but when I tried to take the extract made in the U. S. I had to reduce the dose to 2 pills after breakfast otherwise I would wake at 2-3 AM up with severe diarrhea. I am a big guy, so smaller folks might be affected more strongly. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of D Ann Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:21 PM oleander soup ABOUT DIARRHEA I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff! But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use. My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue? D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Most people can tolerate roughly 200mg per day of the actual concentrated oleander powder relatively easily. Diarrhea symptoms can start above this level but the body gets used to that level in about 5 - 8 days. Some people can go as high as 1000mg per day without a problem. It is very much an individual tolerance but the body adjusts fairly rapidly to higher dosages. Marc Swanepoel - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:33 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA Well I guess my tolerance level is about 200 mg. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Marc Swanepoel - PhDWednesday, December 16, 2009 3:01 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: ABOUT DIARRHEA Both the Sutherlandia OPC and the Rose Laurel Plus are made under my direction by the same pharmaceutical company in South Africa. The only difference is that the RLP capsules contain 100mg oleander concentrate whereas the S/OPC capsules contain 66mg. It is thus to be expected that if one takes the same dosage of both capsules, the RLP ones are more likely to lead to diarrhea. Marc Swanepoel - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA D Ann: I could take 3 of the Sutherlandia pills (from South Africa) per day after meals with no problem, but when I tried to take the extract made in the U. S. I had to reduce the dose to 2 pills after breakfast otherwise I would wake at 2-3 AM up with severe diarrhea. I am a big guy, so smaller folks might be affected more strongly. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of D AnnWednesday, December 16, 2009 12:21 PMoleander soup Subject: ABOUT DIARRHEA I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff!But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use.My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue?D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Marc: I might blow the back of the toilet out with a gram!!! oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Marc Swanepoel - PhD Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:51 PM oleander soup Re: ABOUT DIARRHEA Most people can tolerate roughly 200mg per day of the actual concentrated oleander powder relatively easily. Diarrhea symptoms can start above this level but the body gets used to that level in about 5 - 8 days. Some people can go as high as 1000mg per day without a problem. It is very much an individual tolerance but the body adjusts fairly rapidly to higher dosages. Marc Swanepoel ----- Original Message ----- Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:33 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA Well I guess my tolerance level is about 200 mg. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Marc Swanepoel - PhD Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:01 PM oleander soup Re: ABOUT DIARRHEA Both the Sutherlandia OPC and the Rose Laurel Plus are made under my direction by the same pharmaceutical company in South Africa. The only difference is that the RLP capsules contain 100mg oleander concentrate whereas the S/OPC capsules contain 66mg. It is thus to be expected that if one takes the same dosage of both capsules, the RLP ones are more likely to lead to diarrhea. Marc Swanepoel - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM RE: ABOUT DIARRHEA D Ann: I could take 3 of the Sutherlandia pills (from South Africa) per day after meals with no problem, but when I tried to take the extract made in the U. S. I had to reduce the dose to 2 pills after breakfast otherwise I would wake at 2-3 AM up with severe diarrhea. I am a big guy, so smaller folks might be affected more strongly. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of D Ann Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:21 PM oleander soup ABOUT DIARRHEA I'm using the Oleander Soup I made for myself, and have had no problems at all with it. I love this stuff! But on involved with a breast cancer discussion group and a couple of the women there tried the OPC (Sutherlandia) in the past, had diarrhea and stopped taking it. Now, there's a new person on the list who's starting with the new version OPC, and her ND is overseeing her use. My question is, can anyone respond regards the diarrhea with the Sutherlandia OPC and offer any suggestions I might take back to the other group? They said taking it with food or without made no difference. Has anyone else here overcome this particular issue? D'Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 My thanks, , Marc and Bob! I'll pass on this information to the group. I've already suggested that anyone trying this come here with questions, but am grateful to have this info to take back to the discussion. You guys rock! oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel - PhD " <marcswan wrote: > > Most people can tolerate roughly 200mg per day of the actual concentrated oleander powder relatively easily. Diarrhea symptoms can start above this level but the body gets used to that level in about 5 - 8 days. Some people can go as high as 1000mg per day without a problem. It is very much an individual tolerance but the body adjusts fairly rapidly to higher dosages. > > Marc Swanepoel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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