Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 After doing a bit of reading concerning Graviola, Perhaps the side effects I've experienced would be attributed to the Graviola - rather than the Oleander. I guess its time to buy a bush and get to harvesting and cooking - but I think meanwhile I'll order from Dr. Swanapoel on Moday... I must say that the mix Im taking has afforded me noticeable overal benefit though... Cheers All... Jack--- On Fri, 11/20/09, wrote: TonyI Re: Dosingoleander soup Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 10:00 PM Are you taking their less expensive (by far) graviola and oleander mix? Their oleander content may be a bit high and there has been some concerns posted here about graviola interfering with the actions of oleander due to graviola lowering cellular activity while the oleander greatly stimulates immune and cell activity. The cardiac glycosides in oleander normally have just the opposite effect as lowering pulse rate and calming - although the amount of cardiac glycoside in oleander extract via an aqueous extraction method (as is the case with Sutherlandia OPC, Rose Laurel OPC Plus and homemade "oleander soup") are quite tiny and the effects should be minimal. Nausea is a fairly common side effect, at least at the outset. It usually passes as the body becomes acclimated. It is always best to start with small amounts and work your way up as the body becomes used to the oleander. Also, scroll back and you will find some suggestions posted here for helping offset nausea. All the best, oleander soup, "speakernut" <speakernut@. ..> wrote:>> I'm somewhat a newbie to the world of oleander, it's benefits, dosing - and side effects. > > I am currently taking the product offered via Alpha Omega labs (seemed an easier route - and Oleander Plants are a hard item to source in Salt Lake City).> > Thus far I have noted some very positive benefits - some I gather from immunomodulation, and others the side effects and calming from the cardio glycosides. WHich leads me to my next question(s) - Side Effects.> > I appear to be quite sensitive to dosage: The net effect being a lowered pulse, some dyspnea, some restlessness, and a "feeling" like I need to pace - move - stay active, etc to keep from fainting. I attribute a portion of this to a "panic" reaction I have always had when I feel like im going to loose control or consciousness. 3 weeks down and Im still breathing though! - and am overall feeling well.> > The dosage calls for 1/2 tsp 3X a day. Sometimes (and if on an empty stomach) that seems too much - too quickly and I have a "reaction" (with the above symptoms) that occurs between 15-75 minutes later... *sigh* ALso the reaction seems more random, as in it doesnt always occur, the intensity varies, the onset varies, and the duration varies.> > I do use the bob beck protocol too - but am carefull to not do any pulsing (or electrification) within about 6 hrs of taking oleander - and 2 hrs after.> > Thoughts anyone??? I do plan to continue taking the Oleander, as I know its doing good...> > Jack> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi Jack,My first thought while I was reading your post was: I wonder if he is using the Bob Beck Protocol, too? I had very similar symptoms whilst doing the Bob Beck Protocol, Cesium Chloride Protocol and 2 capsules of Oleander. I was very careful to be mindful of electroporation - however I think these protocols are so effective by themselves that some degree of these symptoms are unavoidable. I have since read people describing these effects to be caused by the adrenal glands as they are stressed out by all these simultaneous therapies in an already cancer stressed environment. These symptoms stopped as soon as I finished my 6 weeks of Bob Beck. I continued to up my Oleander OPC dose to 6 a day and I had no more of the kind of symptoms you describe. I personally think Oleander is great. I personally never did Graviola.Eva.--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Jack King <speakernut wrote:Jack King <speakernutRe: Re: Dosing - Another Thoughtoleander soup Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 1:16 AM After doing a bit of reading concerning Graviola, Perhaps the side effects I've experienced would be attributed to the Graviola - rather than the Oleander. I guess its time to buy a bush and get to harvesting and cooking - but I think meanwhile I'll order from Dr. Swanapoel on Moday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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