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Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:30 PM

Thyroid Cancer

 

 

Hello all,

 

I was diagnosed with Thyroid cancer in 2004, had surgery and radiation, and am

on Levothyroxine and Armour. I also became a vegetarian in 2006 when my appendix

burst, lacerating several important organs, after that the smell of most cooking

meat makes me nauseous.

 

My question is, besides the lifetime meds what else should I be taking or not

taking?

 

Thanks!

 

Rena MacGregor

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Rena,

There is a Homeopathic Remedy, " Colchicum Autumnale 200 " , take one dose dose of

it at bed time and I hope you'll be feeling better next morning.

You may ask if you have any questions.

Dr.

 

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Rena <teu_kelytha

Thyroid Cancer

 

Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:30 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello all,

 

 

 

I was diagnosed with Thyroid cancer in 2004, had surgery and radiation, and am

on Levothyroxine and Armour. I also became a vegetarian in 2006 when my appendix

burst, lacerating several important organs, after that the smell of most cooking

meat makes me nauseous.

 

 

 

My question is, besides the lifetime meds what else should I be taking or not

taking?

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Rena MacGregor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello all, this is my first time posting. I have some questions. Does anyone

here have any experience using Oleander for thyroid cancer?

I had my thyroid removed in 07 due to cancer. It's time for my annual check up

to see if I'm still negative for it. For those who don't know the standard

procedure is to give radioactive iodine for imaging tests and if it shows you

have cancer they then give you a much bigger dose of RI. I'm told by all the

medical proffesionals that it's " relatively harmless " , the benefits far outweigh

the risks, it's the most treatable form of cancer, you'll be cured and die at a

normal age...ya da ya da ya da.

Maybe their right, but I have my doubts. I worry about the cumulative risk and

the risk I put my family in. I've always hated to take the RI capsules in the

past and my feeling is I never want to again. I'm thinking about refusing the RI

and just taking oleander soup. I'm planning on making it this week. It's

probable I don't have cancer anyway but I think I should take it to keep things

in check. I'm just looking for any feedback at all concerning my situation,

thyroid cancer and radioactive iodine. Thanks

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Radioactive iodine is considered safe because it is supposed to just kill the cells in the thyroid and not affect any other part of the body. But my question is, if your thyroid was removed, then why would they want to give this to you? However, there are still risks involved. When a doctor tells me that the "benefits outweigh the risks," I usually run the other way.Here are the risks, and this is for someone who still has their thyroid:1. It destroys the thyroid.2. It is dangerous for breastfeeding and pregnancy.3. Radioactive iodine can be absorbed by other organs and can cause cell death and DNA mutations.4. Studies show an increase in cancers, especially in the thyroid and small bowel after being given radioactive iodine.5. Chance of weight gain is increased.6. Increase in developing fibromyalgia-like symptoms.7. Salivary and tear duct damage.Your choice to use Oleander is a good one. Even if there is no cancer present, it is virtually unheard of anyone taking Oleander as a preventative to come down with cancer. I would also like to point you to A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol , which contains other cancer killing and immune strengthening supplements and suggestions that will give you a "roadmap" to good health.By the way, welcome to our group.My best,oleander soup , "missmuse16" <rsk21 wrote:>> Hello all, this is my first time posting. I have some questions. Does anyone here have any experience using Oleander for thyroid cancer?> I had my thyroid removed in 07 due to cancer. It's time for my annual check up to see if I'm still negative for it. For those who don't know the standard procedure is to give radioactive iodine for imaging tests and if it shows you have cancer they then give you a much bigger dose of RI. I'm told by all the medical proffesionals that it's "relatively harmless", the benefits far outweigh the risks, it's the most treatable form of cancer, you'll be cured and die at a normal age...ya da ya da ya da. > Maybe their right, but I have my doubts. I worry about the cumulative risk and the risk I put my family in. I've always hated to take the RI capsules in the past and my feeling is I never want to again. I'm thinking about refusing the RI and just taking oleander soup. I'm planning on making it this week. It's probable I don't have cancer anyway but I think I should take it to keep things in check. I'm just looking for any feedback at all concerning my situation, thyroid cancer and radioactive iodine. Thanks>

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Thanks you for sharing your thoughts. Its good to hear someone echo what

I feel about this. They tell me that there is always some thyroid tissue in your

body, that surgery can never totally remove it all so that would then mean

theres cancerous thyroid tissue floating around in there. But none showed up

after my surgery and none showed up a year later. I don't understand either why

they want me to keep doing this. It's just what they do. But I'm not going to

consent this time.

You said oleander was a good choice and you said it's unheard of to use it

preventatively but I thought that once someone has had cancer they had to be a

little more vigilant than the rest of the population. Do you think this is a

misconception. Is taking oleander maybe over kill on my part?

 

Thanks,

Renee

 

oleander soup , " M " <luellamay129 wrote:

>

> Radioactive iodine is considered safe because it is supposed to just

> kill the cells in the thyroid and not affect any other part of the body.

> But my question is, if your thyroid was removed, then why would they

> want to give this to you?

>

> However, there are still risks involved. When a doctor tells me that

> the " benefits outweigh the risks, " I usually run the other way.

>

> Here are the risks, and this is for someone who still has their thyroid:

>

> 1. It destroys the thyroid.

>

> 2. It is dangerous for breastfeeding and pregnancy.

>

> 3. Radioactive iodine can be absorbed by other organs and can cause

> cell death and DNA mutations.

>

> 4. Studies show an increase in cancers, especially in the thyroid and

> small bowel after being given radioactive iodine.

>

> 5. Chance of weight gain is increased.

>

> 6. Increase in developing fibromyalgia-like symptoms.

>

> 7. Salivary and tear duct damage.

>

> Your choice to use Oleander is a good one. Even if there is no cancer

> present, it is virtually unheard of anyone taking Oleander as a

> preventative to come down with cancer. I would also like to point you

> to A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol </anticancer.htm>

> , which contains other cancer killing and immune strengthening

> supplements and suggestions that will give you a " roadmap " to good

> health.

>

> By the way, welcome to our group.

>

> My best,

>

>

>

>

> oleander soup , " missmuse16 " <rsk21@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello all, this is my first time posting. I have some questions. Does

> anyone here have any experience using Oleander for thyroid cancer?

> > I had my thyroid removed in 07 due to cancer. It's time for my annual

> check up to see if I'm still negative for it. For those who don't know

> the standard procedure is to give radioactive iodine for imaging tests

> and if it shows you have cancer they then give you a much bigger dose of

> RI. I'm told by all the medical proffesionals that it's " relatively

> harmless " , the benefits far outweigh the risks, it's the most treatable

> form of cancer, you'll be cured and die at a normal age...ya da ya da ya

> da.

> > Maybe their right, but I have my doubts. I worry about the cumulative

> risk and the risk I put my family in. I've always hated to take the RI

> capsules in the past and my feeling is I never want to again. I'm

> thinking about refusing the RI and just taking oleander soup. I'm

> planning on making it this week. It's probable I don't have cancer

> anyway but I think I should take it to keep things in check. I'm just

> looking for any feedback at all concerning my situation, thyroid cancer

> and radioactive iodine. Thanks

> >

>

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Renee -

I just wanted to step in and say that did not say that it was unheard of to take oleander as a preventative against cancer, but rather that it was virtually unheard of for anyone who did so to subsequently get cancer.

Oleander is widely used as a preventative for cancer with wonderful results - especially when combined with a healthy diet and lifestyle.

As a side note, though this has nothing to do with cancer per se, 140,000 die from side effects of properly prescribed and administered mainstream drugs each year. Presumably, their doctors prescribed those drugs based on their assessments that the risks outweighed the benefits - or so they would surely say.

All the best,

oleander soup , "missmuse16" <rsk21 wrote:>> Thanks you for sharing your thoughts. Its good to hear someone echo what I feel about this. They tell me that there is always some thyroid tissue in your body, that surgery can never totally remove it all so that would then mean theres cancerous thyroid tissue floating around in there. But none showed up after my surgery and none showed up a year later. I don't understand either why they want me to keep doing this. It's just what they do. But I'm not going to consent this time.> You said oleander was a good choice and you said it's unheard of to use it preventatively but I thought that once someone has had cancer they had to be a little more vigilant than the rest of the population. Do you think this is a misconception. Is taking oleander maybe over kill on my part?> > Thanks,> Renee> > oleander soup , " M" luellamay129@ wrote:> >. . . .> > > > Your choice to use Oleander is a good one. Even if there is no cancer> > present, it is virtually unheard of anyone taking Oleander as a> > preventative to come down with cancer. I would also like to point you> > to A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol </anticancer.htm> > > , which contains other cancer killing and immune strengthening> > supplements and suggestions that will give you a "roadmap" to good> > health.> > > > By the way, welcome to our group.> > > > My best,> > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , "missmuse16" <rsk21@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello all, this is my first time posting. I have some questions. Does> > anyone here have any experience using Oleander for thyroid cancer?> > > I had my thyroid removed in 07 due to cancer. It's time for my annual> > check up to see if I'm still negative for it. For those who don't know> > the standard procedure is to give radioactive iodine for imaging tests> > and if it shows you have cancer they then give you a much bigger dose of> > RI. I'm told by all the medical proffesionals that it's "relatively> > harmless", the benefits far outweigh the risks, it's the most treatable> > form of cancer, you'll be cured and die at a normal age...ya da ya da ya> > da.> > > Maybe their right, but I have my doubts. I worry about the cumulative> > risk and the risk I put my family in. I've always hated to take the RI> > capsules in the past and my feeling is I never want to again. I'm> > thinking about refusing the RI and just taking oleander soup. I'm> > planning on making it this week. It's probable I don't have cancer> > anyway but I think I should take it to keep things in check. I'm just> > looking for any feedback at all concerning my situation, thyroid cancer> > and radioactive iodine. Thanks> > >> >>

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Hi Renee,With regard to your last question, one who has had cancer cannot let down their guard. A healthy lifestyle must be followed from that moment on. Too many who have "beaten" cancer have become complacent, dropping their guard and reverting back to their comfortable lifestyles only to have their cancer return. In my opinion, you cannot be more vigilant than by taking Oleander and following the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. It will not only strengthen your immune system, but also work on killing any cancer cells that may surface. And we all have cancer cells. However, a strong immune system expels them from the body. It's when the immune system is compromised that the cancer cells take hold and thrive.As a sidenote, statistics say that one out of two persons will have to deal with cancer during their lifetime. Therefore, in my opinion, nobody should let their guard down. We should all focus on a completely healthy lifestyle.Hugs,

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Thanks for your input Tony, I saw my Endocronologist today. She did want me to

take RAI again. I told her that I wasn't going to and she prompty referred me to

a different dr. who she thought would be more in line with my thinking. So

hopefully this new dr. will be a good one and will also be willing to prescribe

natural dessicated thyroid hormone. At any rate I'm never taking RAI again.

I have a question concerning Oleander. The Oleander that is available to me is

grown on a side of a residential street. Should I be concerned about exhaust or

chemicals that the plant may have absorbed from cars that pass.

 

Thanks,

Renee

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> Renee -

>

> I just wanted to step in and say that did not say that it was

> unheard of to take oleander as a preventative against cancer, but rather

> that it was virtually unheard of for anyone who did so to subsequently

> get cancer.

>

> Oleander is widely used as a preventative for cancer with wonderful

> results - especially when combined with a healthy diet and lifestyle.

>

> As a side note, though this has nothing to do with cancer per se,

> 140,000 die from side effects of properly prescribed and administered

> mainstream drugs each year. Presumably, their doctors prescribed those

> drugs based on their assessments that the risks outweighed the benefits

> - or so they would surely say.

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " missmuse16 " <rsk21@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks you for sharing your thoughts. Its good to hear someone

> echo what I feel about this. They tell me that there is always some

> thyroid tissue in your body, that surgery can never totally remove it

> all so that would then mean theres cancerous thyroid tissue floating

> around in there. But none showed up after my surgery and none showed up

> a year later. I don't understand either why they want me to keep doing

> this. It's just what they do. But I'm not going to consent this time.

> > You said oleander was a good choice and you said it's unheard of to

> use it preventatively but I thought that once someone has had cancer

> they had to be a little more vigilant than the rest of the population.

> Do you think this is a misconception. Is taking oleander maybe over kill

> on my part?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Renee

> >

> > oleander soup , " M " luellamay129@ wrote:

> > >

> . . . .

> > >

> > > Your choice to use Oleander is a good one. Even if there is no

> cancer

> > > present, it is virtually unheard of anyone taking Oleander as a

> > > preventative to come down with cancer. I would also like to point

> you

> > > to A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol

> </anticancer.htm>

> > > , which contains other cancer killing and immune strengthening

> > > supplements and suggestions that will give you a " roadmap " to good

> > > health.

> > >

> > > By the way, welcome to our group.

> > >

> > > My best,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > oleander soup , " missmuse16 " <rsk21@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello all, this is my first time posting. I have some questions.

> Does

> > > anyone here have any experience using Oleander for thyroid cancer?

> > > > I had my thyroid removed in 07 due to cancer. It's time for my

> annual

> > > check up to see if I'm still negative for it. For those who don't

> know

> > > the standard procedure is to give radioactive iodine for imaging

> tests

> > > and if it shows you have cancer they then give you a much bigger

> dose of

> > > RI. I'm told by all the medical proffesionals that it's " relatively

> > > harmless " , the benefits far outweigh the risks, it's the most

> treatable

> > > form of cancer, you'll be cured and die at a normal age...ya da ya

> da ya

> > > da.

> > > > Maybe their right, but I have my doubts. I worry about the

> cumulative

> > > risk and the risk I put my family in. I've always hated to take the

> RI

> > > capsules in the past and my feeling is I never want to again. I'm

> > > thinking about refusing the RI and just taking oleander soup. I'm

> > > planning on making it this week. It's probable I don't have cancer

> > > anyway but I think I should take it to keep things in check. I'm

> just

> > > looking for any feedback at all concerning my situation, thyroid

> cancer

> > > and radioactive iodine. Thanks

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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