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Suzanne Somers Larry King Knockout Interview by Jeffrey Dach MD

 

I was astonished, and very curious that the networks allowed the Larry King -

Suzanne Somers Knockout interview to air Friday night, Oct 23. I recorded the

show and watched it Saturday night. Here is my review of the TV interview.

 

Suzanne's Cancer Scare Nightmare

 

Suzanne was solo for the first segment, and related her " cancer scare

nightmare " . One day, suddenly, she entered the hospital with respiratory

distress, examined and told by six doctors her lungs were filled with cancer.

She was offered chemotherapy treatment, and told to " put your affairs in

order " . Luckily it was all a false alarm. Eventually, a lung biopsy showed a

common fungal infection called valley fever. During this cancer nightmare she

contemplated her own death, and became more thankful for the love of friends and

family. Additionally, she was motivated to examine alternative cancer

treatments other than chemotherapy. Hence the book, Knockout, in which she

interviews doctors curing cancer with non-conventional treatments.

 

Suzanne's Two Medical Heretics

 

In the next segment, Larry King introduces two doctors from Suzanne's Knockout

book. The first was Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. isolated peptides

called antineoplastins which have anticancer activity. Results have been

impressive for brain tumors, such as the one that killed Ed Kennedy, and another

type of cancer called lymphomas.

 

The second doctor from Suzanne's book was Nicholas Gonzalez MD who treats cancer

with high dose pancreatic enzymes along with a nutritional supplement program.

Gonzalez has considerable success with cancer remissions in advanced cases,

especially pancreatic cancer. This cancer treatment is based on a the

Trophoblast Theory of Cancer.

 

The Defenders of Conventional Medicine

 

To balance off the medical heretics, two heavy weight cancer MD's defended the

cancer establishment, Otis Brawley and Keith Black.

 

Otis Brawley MD is Chief Medical Officer of the American Cancer Society, and

professor of hematology, oncology, and medicine at the Emory University School

of Medicine and Professor of Epidemiology at the Emory Rollins School of Public

Health. I actually Like Otis, and he is a very likable guy, speaks well and

makes a good impression. He has taken some very courageous stands, for example,

he opposes mass screening with PSA tests for prostate cancer, and has personally

declined a PSA test.

 

The second defender, Dr. Keith L. Black, is chairman of the department of

neurosurgery at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. He was on the 1997

cover of Time Magazine as a " Hero of Medicine " . I haven't seen him before, but

on this TV appearance, he seemed stressed out, disagreeable, and out of sorts.

He did not make a very good impression. We will find out why below.

 

Transcripts

 

The complete transcripts of the interview can be found here.

 

Summary in a Nutshell

 

To cut to the chase, and summarize the outcome of the interview, Larry King did

a great job as a facilitator. Ultimately the truth came out. The war against

cancer has been a dismal failure, and the mainstay of conventional cancer

treatment, chemotherapy, is largely ineffective against the majority of adult

cancer types. Although alternative treatments hold promise for cancer cure,

defenders of conventional cancer treatments remain closed minded, staunchly

defending the multi billion dollar cancer industry.

 

Lets go through the transcript of the show and take a look:

 

Larry King addressing Otis Brawley: What did you make of what Suzanne just said

about cancer, chemotherapy, pancreatic cancer and the like?

 

Otis replies with comment about Blacks and Uninsured having higher mortality

because of not enough conventional medicine, not too little. This is the old

bait and switch. The question was cancer and cancer therapy, not the whole

field of conventional medicine.

Otis completely sidestepped the question, showing his skills as a politician.

 

Next, Larry King asks the same chemotherapy question to Nicholas Gonzalez, MD.

In a paradoxical twist, the Medical Heretic, Dr Gonzalez, defends chemotherapy.

In essence, doing Otis Brawley's job for him. Gonzalez also informs the viewers

that chemo doesn't work for the majority of major killer cancers.

 

GONZALEZ: I think there are cancers, unquestionably, for which chemotherapy

works. And Suzanne named several of them. Hodgkin's disease -- they can cure 80

percent early stage with chemotherapy; testicular cancer, 80 percent, at least;

certain lymphomas. Childhood leukemia can be cured with chemotherapy. But for

the mass -- for the mass of cancers, the major killers, such as metastatic lung,

metastatic breast, metastatic colon, metastatic pancreatic cancer, unfortunately

chemotherapy really doesn't -- it's not curative. It may prolong life, but it

isn't really that beneficial. So we need to look at new options.

 

Next, Larry asks the very same chemotherapy question to Keith Black, a defender.

 

KEITH BLACK: Well, I -- I think that it's important for cancer patients to

realize that we are making progress in the treatment against cancer. There is

more promise. There is more hope. And we're trying new, promising treatments

that range from cancer vaccines that work with the body's immune system to

cancer stem cells. It's important for all the patients to have information in a

very scientific way and there ..... And there -- it's -- and there are just so

many chemotherapeutic agents now that are approved by the FDA, that we know

prolong life, for a whole variety of cancers, I think we have to be very careful

of the information we give to our patients.

 

Dr Black starts off sidestepping the question with pie in the sky nonsense about

cancer vaccines and cancer stem cells, none of which are FDA approved, and are

not available for clinical use. Then he finally gets to the point claiming

there are many FDA approved chemotherapy agents " that prolong life " . Which is

true. They prolong life a few miserable months while the patient slowly dies an

agonizing death. Dr Black sees this every day, and yet he lives in a fantasy

world. Dr Black is believer in the church, and rises as a defender:

 

BLACK: But what patients need to realize is that the conventional treatments

that are approved provide clear benefit to those patients.

 

What exactly is a clear benefit when the cancer patient, given chemotherapy, is

either immediately killed from bone marrow suppression and immune failure, or

dies a delayed death over a few months, suffering nausea, inability to eat, and

wasting?

 

Next, Larry goes to the second Medical Heretic with the chemo question.

 

BURZYNSKI: Chemotherapy can work for some cancers, but cannot work for the

majority of cancers. This year alone, two-and-half million people are going to

die worldwide just with three cancers -- lung, colon and liver cancer. So what

does the chemotherapy cure for these people? It doesn't not exist.

 

Larry then turns to Otis Brawley for a final stab at the question which he

sidestepped initially. What transpires is an amazing display of courage and

honesty from The Defender who admits that the dying cancer patient cannot be

helped by chemotherapy, and should be allowed to die at a hospice facility.

 

BRAWLEY: Now, I'm the first to admit that there are some people who get

chemotherapy who ought not -- people who are getting it as a third or fourth

line therapy for metastatic disease. Frequently, those people are getting

treated because the patient wants treatment, because they don't want to die and

the doctor wants to give them treatment because the doctor doesn't want to tell

them that they are dying. And we need to actually start looking in -- in the

United States -- into how we look at hospice and other things. But to say that

people who have metastatic disease should not get chemotherapy, blanket and

outright, that's just harmful. And it's actually going to hurt some people by

saying that.

 

Although this is obvious to all of us, it is difficult for a Defender to admit

that conventional medicine has no cure for cancer. Otis admits it is best to

let the cancer patient die humanely, in hospice under heavy drug sedation.

 

Above image : Pet scan (above) and CAT scan (below). Cancer Tumor Mass pointed

by red arrow. Courtesy of Wikimedia Commons

 

Next: Defender Keith Black again reiterates chemotherapy has benefits.

 

BLACK: There are a whole variety of cancers, including brain tumors --

particularly pediatric brain tumors -- and even adult brain tumors -- that

chemotherapy can benefit from.

 

Perhaps Dr. Black can tell us the benefit for Edward Kennedy who had the same

dismal 12 month prognosis from his brain tumor as any one else. Where is the

benefit there, Dr Black?

 

An Incredible Moment

 

Now we come to the most amazing part of the entire segment. Dr Burzynski is

allowed to talk freely and explain his antineoplastins. This is something I

never expected to see on national television in a million years, and credit is

due to Suzanne Somers for making this happen.

 

KING to Burzynski: What -- what do you mean by this plastin study, what is that?

 

BURZYNSKI: Anti-neoplastins, peptides, which I discovered, which can stimulate

genes which fight cancer, and which can decrease the activity of the genes which

cause cancer. These are molecular switches --

 

KING: You publish that?

 

SOMERS: Yes.

 

BURZYNSKI: Yes, we publish -- I publish about 300 articles --

 

KING cuts off Burzynski and asks Keith Black: Do you discount that?

 

KING asking Keith Black: Well, that seems revolutionary. Do you discount that?

 

Now Comes the Hatchet Job.

 

Dr Keith Black Speaks With Forked Tongue

 

BLACK: Well, I -- I -- I looked at the chapter that Suzanne wrote in her book

about Dr. Burzynski and I've -- I've known of what he's been doing. And I think

-- you know -- the work that he's doing, there's no scientific evidence that it

provides any benefit for cancer patients.

 

KING: You're discounting all the work?

 

SOMERS: Oh my gosh.

 

BLACK: Yes. He's treated over 8,000 patients with this treatment over 30 years.

The papers that he has published have been too few papers -- too few patients in

those articles to come to any scientific conclusion. And in -- in -- in studies

that have been reviewed by other doctors of his work, when he selected the

patients, they found no evidence of any response of cancer patients to -- to

his--

 

SOMERS: Then why is he in Phase Two clinical trials? Why is he starting Phase

three? I mean, to discount what Dr. Burzynski did, I think, is a great

disservice to people listening also.

 

BLACK: Well, I mean, you know, the other thing, Larry, is that, you know, here

are some abstracts that he wrote. And one of the patients that he describes as

having a complete response to his treatment, it wasn't a response because the

patient had the tumor removed with surgery. He also states that there was no

complications or very little complications in his treatment. And I've actually

had one patient that went to him and had the treatment and almost died -- went

in a coma from the treatment.

 

This is a prime example of deceit by Dr Keith Black who is now fighting dirty,

revealing his true character on national television. There is a personal hatred

going on here.

 

Dr Black knows that invasive brain cancer is invariably fatal in a short time,

and the majority of brain cancer patients go into a coma and die, just like

Edward Kennedy did from his Glioblastoma.

 

It is very unusual and bad form for anyone to bring up individual patient cases

on national television. This is done for only one purpose: to discredit

Burzynski at any cost.

 

The same tactics can be applied to Keith Black's patients. Virtually 100% of

Keith Black's invasive Glioblastoma patients go into a coma and die within 6-12

months of diagnosis, yet he is indicting Dr Burzynski because ONE patient went

into a coma and ALMOST died. This is the natural course of the disease, and

they all do that whether treated conventionally or non-conventionally. This is

a bad disease.

 

To use this case to take a pot-shot at Dr Burzynski, a fellow MD PhD, is an

inexcusable breach of ethics by Dr Black, indicating a personal hatred, and a

hatchet job for the cancer establishment. Amazingly, Dr Burzinski refused to

stoop to Dr Black's level, and did not bring up the thousands of patients who

have died while under Dr. Black's care. How do I know this? That is the nature

of the game for all oncologists and neurosurgeons who treat brain cancer.

Virtually 100% of the patients with invasive cancer die under their care.

 

Next: Larry King gives Burzynski a chance to respond to Black's allegations, who

then informs the viewers that Black is lying through his teeth.

 

BURZYNKSI: Well, first of all, I don't know why Doctor Black is not telling the

truth. We conducted 12 Phase 2 clinical trials under strict FDA supervision. In

every one of these trials, we have objective response to treatment. We proved

the treatment works, that even can cure incurable brain tumors. The patients can

live not only five years tumor free, but another 10 years tumor free, from the

types of tumors where chemotherapy can do absolutely nothing. This is well

documented. This was reviewed by the top specialists in the United States. But

it was never reviewed by Doctor Black. He didn't review even a single case done

by us. Why?

 

I attended one of Burzynski's lectures on gene silencing with methylation

groups, and I can tell you the guy is a genius. Contrary to Black's deceitful

statement, there is plenty of scientific evidence. To review a few of the 300

scientific articles published in the medical literature showing superior

efficacy of antineoplatins compared to chemotherapy and radiation, see this

page:

 

http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/ph/media-corner-publications.html

 

BURZYNSKI: Even the patients whom Doctor Black advised to not come to us, 11

years ago, for incurable brain tumors. Their scanned tumors are gone in two

months, it is now 11 years later, they are in perfect health, living here in

L.A. And Doctor Black will tell you, you'll be wasting time and money. Why are

you doing this, Doctor Black?

 

Dr Burzynski reveals startling information. For 11 years, Dr Black has advised

his patients to shun Burzynski, yet they go to Burzynski's clinic anyway and

many are cured of " incurable brain cancer " . A remarkable statement.

 

Bottom line, Burzynski has a novel cancer treatment that works, and Dr Keith

Black is spitting bullets of spite. The hatred, loathing, and condescension

was palpable.

 

There was a lot more...to be continued...

 

One final suggestion for Defenders Drs. Otis Brawley and Keith Black, read this

book:

 

No doubt, many conventional cancer docs will be reading this article, so I would

give them one book to read, entitled " How I Conquered Cancer Naturally " by Eydie

Mae Hunsberger. This is a true story of a woman in the 1970's who had recurrent

axillary lymph node enlargement following lumpectomy for breast cancer. She

declined chemotherapy and instead visited Ann Wigmore in Boston where she

learned about wheatgrass juice and a live food diet, to which she attributed her

recovery and remission from what appeared to be fatal breast cancer.

 

 

 

Spontaneous Remission of Breast Cancer ?

 

One screening study reported by Welch in the Annals of Internal Medicine

actually concluded that many small breast cancers spontaneously regress. Gina

Kolata wrote a New York Times piece about it. Actually, spontaneous regression

of breast cancer has been reported many times in the medical literature. Sir

William Osler, a legendary and revered doctor reported 14 cases himself.

 

See this 1901 report: The Medical Aspects of Carcinoma of the Breast, with a

Note on the Spontaneous Disappearance of Secondary Growths, OSLER W., American

Medicine: April 6 1901; 17-19; 63-66.

 

Perhaps breast cancer remission was more common during his lifetime. I

personally have seen a case of spontaneous regression of breast cancer

documented by follow up MRI scan.

 

Left Image: Breast Cancer Awareness Month with Pink Ribbons. Courtesy of

WIkimedia Commons.

 

The real challenge is for medical science to investigate spontanous regression,

and once understood, use it induce a cure in the cancer patient, thereby winning

the war against cancer. Perhaps a mouse model discovered in 2003 showing

spontaneous regression of advanced cancer in genetically determined mice could

help make some progess with this research. This would be a good subject for an

NIH grant.

 

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Links

 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/23/lkl.01.html

Larry King Suzanne Somers interview transcripts October 23, 2009

 

http://www.cedars-sinai.edu/pdf/CVBlackWebsite.pdf

Dr. Keith L. Black, chairman of the department of neurosurgery at Cedars-Sinai

Medical Center in Los Angeles, Cover Time Magazine – Heroes of Medicine 1997

 

http://politicolnews.com/cnn-interviews-somers-cancer/

CNN Interviews Suzanne Somers-Knockout

 

 

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