Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Rachel -, Stage I and II are early stages. If one feels, like I do, that cancer is a defense mechanism of the body when cells are under certain oxidative or nitrosative stresses, then phrases like "did not get it all" are really meaningless. Unless one has changed the underlying conditions in the body which resulted in the cancer "symptom" in the first place, then removing the tumor is not the end of the story. The symptom can always manifest itself again - come back - at a later stage. That is why diet and lifestyle changes are so important as part of the cancer protocol. Without such changes, all treatments including oleander, paw-paw, Graviola, and other products, are ALL just dealing with the symptoms. Paw-paw can be be useful for stages I and II cancers but it is unlikely to be an adequate treatment. Swollen lymph nodes can be due to infection, inflammation and cancer growth. If it is due to the killing off of cancer cells, then other detox symptoms like tiredness, sore muscles, runny nose, etc, will be involved. The enzymes and serrapeptase will assist the body but they are also a bit lightweight for the task. Marc Swanepoel --------------- Okay, Thank you!I have only been on it about 2 weeks now and am trying to determine if I shouldcontinue with it or not.Please clarify for me just what you are calling early stages.My cancer was in early stage 2, when diagnosed, and was surgically removed2 years ago, (no advised radiation) but they did not get it all. So has since rearedit's ugly head again, it has not metastasized.Is there any other way to know if this product is helping me?What do you think about swollen lymph nodes, relating to taking paw paw?I'm suspecting it's because the cancer is being killed off and my lymph system iscleaning house. I'm taking lots of enzymes and also serrapeptase to help.Rachel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Yes of course diet and lifestyle changes must be made, and have, I was only mentioning the most pertinent information concerning the use of paw paw. I'm also taking other measures to detox, such as using wheatgrass juice several times a day, been doing that for 2 months now. I have had the tiredness and the runny nose going on for a while now, I figured the tiredness was due to taking the paw paw, but did not attribute it to detoxing. Rachel Marc Swanepoel - PhD wrote: > > > Rachel -, > Stage I and II are early stages. If one feels, like I do, that cancer > is a defense mechanism of the body when cells are under certain > oxidative or nitrosative stresses, then phrases like " did not get it > all " are really meaningless. Unless one has changed the underlying > conditions in the body which resulted in the cancer " symptom " in the > first place, then removing the tumor is not the end of the story. The > symptom can always manifest itself again - come back - at a later > stage. That is why diet and lifestyle changes are so important as part > of the cancer protocol. Without such changes, all treatments including > oleander, paw-paw, Graviola, and other products, are ALL just dealing > with the symptoms. Paw-paw can be be useful for stages I and II > cancers but it is unlikely to be an adequate treatment. Swollen lymph > nodes can be due to infection, inflammation and cancer growth. If it > is due to the killing off of cancer cells, then other detox symptoms > like tiredness, sore muscles, runny nose, etc, will be involved. The > enzymes and serrapeptase will assist the body but they are also a bit > lightweight for the task. > Marc Swanepoel > > --------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Lady Pilgrim, The wheatgrass juice is very good to detox and treat your cancer (abcissic acid). Keep it up. Bob - " Lady Pilgrim " <Ladypilgrim <oleander soup > Friday, October 30, 2009 6:16 PM Re: Graviola and Paw Paw > Yes of course diet and lifestyle changes must be made, and have, I was > only mentioning the most pertinent information concerning the use of paw > paw. I'm also taking other measures to detox, such as using wheatgrass > juice several times a day, been doing that for 2 months now. > I have had the tiredness and the runny nose going on for a while now, I > figured the tiredness was due to taking the paw paw, but did not > attribute it to detoxing. > > Rachel > > > > Marc Swanepoel - PhD wrote: >> >> >> Rachel -, >> Stage I and II are early stages. If one feels, like I do, that cancer >> is a defense mechanism of the body when cells are under certain >> oxidative or nitrosative stresses, then phrases like " did not get it >> all " are really meaningless. Unless one has changed the underlying >> conditions in the body which resulted in the cancer " symptom " in the >> first place, then removing the tumor is not the end of the story. The >> symptom can always manifest itself again - come back - at a later >> stage. That is why diet and lifestyle changes are so important as part >> of the cancer protocol. Without such changes, all treatments including >> oleander, paw-paw, Graviola, and other products, are ALL just dealing >> with the symptoms. Paw-paw can be be useful for stages I and II >> cancers but it is unlikely to be an adequate treatment. Swollen lymph >> nodes can be due to infection, inflammation and cancer growth. If it >> is due to the killing off of cancer cells, then other detox symptoms >> like tiredness, sore muscles, runny nose, etc, will be involved. The >> enzymes and serrapeptase will assist the body but they are also a bit >> lightweight for the task. >> Marc Swanepoel >> >> --------------- >> >> > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Yes, from what I have read it is one of the better things to take. I plan to continue on it for the rest of my life. Rachel Bob Banever wrote: > Lady Pilgrim, > > The wheatgrass juice is very good to detox and treat your cancer > (abcissic acid). Keep it up. > > Bob > - > " Lady Pilgrim " <Ladypilgrim > <oleander soup > > Friday, October 30, 2009 6:16 PM > Re: Graviola and Paw Paw > > > >> Yes of course diet and lifestyle changes must be made, and have, I was >> only mentioning the most pertinent information concerning the use of paw >> paw. I'm also taking other measures to detox, such as using wheatgrass >> juice several times a day, been doing that for 2 months now. >> I have had the tiredness and the runny nose going on for a while now, I >> figured the tiredness was due to taking the paw paw, but did not >> attribute it to detoxing. >> >> Rachel >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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