Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi Everyone,I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted years ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was still embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are anaerobic bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of my body. Hence my concern. I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have advice or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this appointment in an informed manner?Thanks in advance for any info,Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi Eva - My own experience with a dental nightmare has taught me some things I would like to share with you. If a dentist is not to taught to interpret cavitation shadows and such, then they will only look for obvious pus infection around a root. I think this is getting more attention in dental schools recently however. The bone infections can present themselves differently. Some are a 'dry' rot and are dust-like. Others are mushy like a brown or black tar substance. Sometimes even the best interpreters think an area is minimally infected until they get into the surgical site itself. The root tip needs to be surgically removed. It's been there since your original extraction. Having root tips break off during surgery is very common. As the body tries to rid itself of them, yes, it will surround itself with some sort of infection. If possible I would recommend finding someone who knows about cavitations. If you're unable to do this, make sure the oral surgeon knows to clean the area down to good, healthy bone, which is indicated by a nice blood flow which will create a clot so you can heal. When I had my large dental surgeries in 2004, he saw obvious areas of infection but was not expecting what he found. Old dry socket paste strips from over 25 years ago that never dissolved and never showed up on xrays. So yes, I would imagine your body has been using some of its resources to hold this at bay. One place I would start for information is at this website. www.oralpath.com My cancer is also on the left, and presented itself after 9 years of having a mouth loaded with infection that went unnoticed until I found the right people. I no longer have any infection in my mouth and am healing well from the cancer. I'm not going to tell you that having that area cleaned up will cure your cancer. There are way too many factors involved with cancer and we're all different. It's just another possible piece of the puzzle maybe you should get addressed and continue to support your immunity. Your body will thank you for it. cathy oleander soup , Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted years ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was still embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are anaerobic bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of my body. Hence my concern. > > I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have advice or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this appointment in an informed manner? > > Thanks in advance for any info, > Eva. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Cathy,Thanks so much for you email and sharing your experience. This was exactly the type of info I was looking for. What you say makes sense and I will look up the link in a minute. I am all about putting together the pieces of the puzzle to regain my health. I really think I am doing everything quite nicely. I just read another email you wrote and I agree with you that Sutherlandia OPC is great for a number of ailments. I am glad to hear that you are also healing from cancer and that sorting out your dental nightmare was part of the picture.Thanks again,Eva.--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Cathy <plantenergy1 wrote:The root tip needs to be surgically removed. It's been there since your original extraction. Having root tips break off during surgery is very common. As the body tries to rid itself of them, yes, it will surround itself with some sort of infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Slavek,Thanks for your reply. Reading what your dentist said just increases my resolve to rid myself of the root fragment. I really need my immune system to be doing other things, not trying to contain poisons from toxins that are being released. Good luck with your dental journey :-)Eva. --- On Fri, 10/30/09, slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka wrote:slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelkaRe: Wisdom tooth cavitation?oleander soup Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva, I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that one of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of course had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, but I thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a whole tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. With kind regards, Slavek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 slavek, You may want to rethink having the tooth extracted. You can kill any bacteria in the tooth or root by using a Godzilla... it sends a small 3 volt DC charge into and through the tooth which kills the bacteria instantly. Simply change polarities after 3 minutes. One or two six minute sessions is all it takes. You can buy a fancy unit with a volt meter from " V " at lights or go to microelectricitygermkiller group on for schematics on how to make your own for less than $10.00. Good luck with whatever you decide. Bob - " slavek krepelka " <slavek.krepelka <oleander soup > Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Wisdom tooth cavitation? > Hi Eva, > > I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that one > of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, > never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of course > had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable > infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really > keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, but I > thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a whole > tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony >> cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted years >> ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was still >> embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had >> been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment >> were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are anaerobic >> bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in >> thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of >> my body. Hence my concern. >> >> I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have advice >> or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to >> know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this appointment >> in an informed manner? >> >> Thanks in advance for any info, >> Eva. >> >> > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Eva, I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that one of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of course had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, but I thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a whole tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. With kind regards, Slavek. Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony > cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted years > ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was still > embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had > been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment > were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are anaerobic > bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in > thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of > my body. Hence my concern. > > I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have advice > or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to > know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this appointment > in an informed manner? > > Thanks in advance for any info, > Eva. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 slavek - something like this Godzilla may work if you know it's infection within the tooth itself. if it's a pulp stone in the chamber choking the life out of the tooth that's another story. it's called pulpitis, but you would feel some level of on-again off-again pain with it. how do they know the tooth is dead if there's no identifiable infection, is the tooth turning black or something? cathy oleander soup , " Bob Banever " <bbanever wrote: > > slavek, > > You may want to rethink having the tooth extracted. You can kill any > bacteria in the tooth or root by using a Godzilla... it sends a small 3 volt > DC charge into and through the tooth which kills the bacteria instantly. > Simply change polarities after 3 minutes. One or two six minute sessions is > all it takes. You can buy a fancy unit with a volt meter from " V " at > lights or go to microelectricitygermkiller group on for > schematics on how to make your own for less than $10.00. Good luck with > whatever you decide. > > Bob > - > " slavek krepelka " <slavek.krepelka > <oleander soup > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:19 PM > Re: Wisdom tooth cavitation? > > > > Hi Eva, > > > > I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that one > > of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, > > never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of course > > had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable > > infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really > > keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, but I > > thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a whole > > tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. > > > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Bob, Thank you for that tip. I have noticed it a few times already and I am considering good " zapper " unit for more than just a tooth. I resent to part with any more teeth, dead or alive :-) Considering that the zapper my dentist used for testing of the tooth was rather finicky at the time, I am not even 100% convinced that the tooth is really dead. I sure would have that rechecked before it goes out, if at all. I am quite certain that a good electrifying and rather universal unit should be capable to service any selected body part, or area, even right across lets say the whole abdomen, based on the checked resistance, oe even experience. The current should be able to get through lymphatic tissues. This would be a great advantage over any " chemistry " , which has difficulty to enter it. I have not been through much on " zapping " , because I find the internet info rather scanty and superficial. Nevertheless, I have received Robert Becker's " Body Electric " book last week and I intend to dive into it ASAP/ADAP [A Deep AP]. I am sure it is going to be a fascinating read and study for me. Then I will see if I buy something ready made, or have something made custom as per my specks. Hm. May be I should do the battery zap meanwhile thinking of it. Thanks again, with kind regards, Slavek. Bob Banever wrote: > > > > slavek, > > You may want to rethink having the tooth extracted. You can kill any > bacteria in the tooth or root by using a Godzilla... it sends a small > 3 volt > DC charge into and through the tooth which kills the bacteria > instantly. > Simply change polarities after 3 minutes. One or two six minute > sessions is > all it takes. You can buy a fancy unit with a volt meter from " V " at > lights or go to microelectricitygermkiller group on > for > schematics on how to make your own for less than $10.00. Good luck > with > whatever you decide. > > Bob > - > " slavek krepelka " <slavek.krepelka > <oleander soup > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:19 PM > Re: Wisdom tooth cavitation? > > > Hi Eva, > > > > I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that > one > > of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, > > never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of > course > > had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable > > infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really > > keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, > but I > > thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a > whole > > tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. > > > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony > >> cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted > years > >> ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was > still > >> embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had > >> been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment > >> were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are > anaerobic > >> bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in > >> thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of > >> my body. Hence my concern. > >> > >> I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have > advice > >> or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to > >> know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this > appointment > >> in an informed manner? > >> > >> Thanks in advance for any info, > >> Eva. > >> > >> > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Cathy, The Ndentist zapped it [upper right #1] with an electric tester to see if the nerve will feel it. Yet, his tester was playing games with him and I am not 100% convinced that #1 it is indeed dead. To make it more complicated, I do have a cyst right next to that tooth on the inside in the gum, which has been a trouble for years. But from all the evidence, What I feel and where, as well as x-rays and an expert radiologist testimony, it is in the gum and not in the tooth #1. It came up right after a botched tooth #2 reconstruction years back, remainder of which is an empty gap now. #1 looks the same as the rest of my teeth, which only points to the possibility that it is still alive and it also feels like the rest of them. The cyst is an infection 100%, but it is well established and as far as I can tell too well protected by scar tissue. It does not leak into my mouth as attested by saliva and plaque microscope check and is actually pushing towards the nose, when disturbed. I may even get mad and do a " surgery " on it my own style. I do not feel like it, but I have self inflicted such surgeries upon myself before and it has always worked. Only that getting older somehow makes me less keen on them. Thanks for the your tip and your comment. With kind regards, Slavek. Cathy wrote: > > > > slavek - > > something like this Godzilla may work if you know it's infection > within the tooth itself. if it's a pulp stone in the chamber choking > the life out of the tooth that's another story. it's called pulpitis, > but you would feel some level of on-again off-again pain with it. > > how do they know the tooth is dead if there's no identifiable > infection, is the tooth turning black or something? > > cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 If you look at bestzapper.com, there is good info there. I bought my zapper from them in 1994, and it still works well. Rich in NJ slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka oleander soup Fri, Oct 30, 2009 3:51 am Re: Wisdom tooth cavitation? Hi Bob, Thank you for that tip. I have noticed it a few times already and I am considering good "zapper" unit for more than just a tooth. I resent to part with any more teeth, dead or alive :-) Considering that the zapper my dentist used for testing of the tooth was rather finicky at the time, I am not even 100% convinced that the tooth is really dead. I sure would have that rechecked before it goes out, if at all. I am quite certain that a good electrifying and rather universal unit should be capable to service any selected body part, or area, even right across lets say the whole abdomen, based on the checked resistance, oe even experience. The current should be able to get through lymphatic tissues. This would be a great advantage over any "chemistry", which has difficulty to enter it. I have not been through much on "zapping", because I find the internet info rather scanty and superficial. Nevertheless, I have received Robert Becker's "Body Electric" book last week and I intend to dive into it ASAP/ADAP [A Deep AP]. I am sure it is going to be a fascinating read and study for me. Then I will see if I buy something ready made, or have something made custom as per my specks. Hm. May be I should do the battery zap meanwhile thinking of it. Thanks again, with kind regards, Slavek. Bob Banever wrote: > > > > slavek, > > You may want to rethink having the tooth extracted. You can kill any > bacteria in the tooth or root by using a Godzilla... it sends a small > 3 volt > DC charge into and through the tooth which kills the bacteria > instantly. > Simply change polarities after 3 minutes. One or two six minute > sessions is > all it takes. You can buy a fancy unit with a volt meter from "V" at > lights or go to microelectricitygermkiller group on > for > schematics on how to make your own for less than $10.00. Good luck > with > whatever you decide. > > Bob > - > "slavek krepelka" <slavek.krepelka > <oleander soup > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:19 PM > Re: Wisdom tooth cavitation? > > > Hi Eva, > > > > I have been to my Ndentist this last Tuesday. He has found out that > one > > of my front teeth is dead, even though it had never had any cavity, > > never mind a root canal. Since he recommended an extraction, I of > course > > had a chat with him. He said that even though it has no identifiable > > infection, it still releases toxins into the system. I am not really > > keen on having it pulled, as it never gave me any apparent hassle, > but I > > thought I would pas this bit onto you. My take on it is, that if a > whole > > tooth is a trouble, a piece of it is most likely a trouble as well. > > > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > > > > > Eva Klein-Otis wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> I just got back from my dentist and happened to ask if any bony > >> cavitations could be seen where I had my wisdom teeth extracted > years > >> ago. My dentist told me that it looked like a root fragment was > still > >> embedded in the lower left part of my jaw where my wisdom tooth had > >> been. Does this mean I would have a cavitation? If a root fragment > >> were still embedded, I am thinking this would mean there are > anaerobic > >> bacteria that are releasing toxins into my system. Am I right in > >> thinking this? Also, my Liposarcoma was located on the left side of > >> my body. Hence my concern. > >> > >> I have an appointment to see an oral surgeon. Does anyone have > advice > >> or can you point me to any websites where I can do some research to > >> know what I could be dealing with so I can approach this > appointment > >> in an informed manner? > >> > >> Thanks in advance for any info, > >> Eva. > >> > >> > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi Slavek - I've been known to do my own 'surgery' as well. And i always remove my own stitches. LOL Don't let anyone pull anything until you feel right about it. The guessing game is the wrong one to play when it comes to the teeth. I would probably address the cyst somehow. I had something similar in my upper left area - they called it a mucocele - it turned out to be a golfball size active infection at the root of the tooth which ate through the jawbone, the sinus floor and went up into the face, eating everything in its path. Darn near killed me it was there for so long. Had they known in the beginning how to read the xrays instead of saying it was a 'sinus' infection, I may have had a different outcome than losing 3 teeth in that area. It never showed up on a dental xray but lit up big time on a bone scan and panoramic film. The Godzilla may very well help with the infection. Can they put a drain into that cyst? If it's loaded with anaerobes it may do it good to expose it to oxygen. And as far as those testers go to see if it's alive, you really want a few of the same consistent readings on it before agreeing to the fact that it may or may not be dead. GOOD LUCK and do what you can to save the tooth. cathy oleander soup , slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka wrote: > > Hi Cathy, > > The Ndentist zapped it [upper right #1] with an electric tester to see > if the nerve will feel it. Yet, his tester was playing games with him > and I am not 100% convinced that #1 it is indeed dead. To make it more > complicated, I do have a cyst right next to that tooth on the inside in > the gum, which has been a trouble for years. But from all the evidence, > What I feel and where, as well as x-rays and an expert radiologist > testimony, it is in the gum and not in the tooth #1. It came up right > after a botched tooth #2 reconstruction years back, remainder of which > is an empty gap now. #1 looks the same as the rest of my teeth, which > only points to the possibility that it is still alive and it also feels > like the rest of them. > > The cyst is an infection 100%, but it is well established and as far as > I can tell too well protected by scar tissue. It does not leak into my > mouth as attested by saliva and plaque microscope check and is actually > pushing towards the nose, when disturbed. > > I may even get mad and do a " surgery " on it my own style. I do not feel > like it, but I have self inflicted such surgeries upon myself before and > it has always worked. Only that getting older somehow makes me less keen > on them. > > Thanks for the your tip and your comment. > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > > Cathy wrote: > > > > > > > > slavek - > > > > something like this Godzilla may work if you know it's infection > > within the tooth itself. if it's a pulp stone in the chamber choking > > the life out of the tooth that's another story. it's called pulpitis, > > but you would feel some level of on-again off-again pain with it. > > > > how do they know the tooth is dead if there's no identifiable > > infection, is the tooth turning black or something? > > > > cathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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