Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever. Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the odds and is doing extremely well. Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems to be handling things well. My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow GREAT news! This is so nice when folks respond to oleander therapy. Good luck and keep us all informed! Bob - " bballmvp4 " <broderick1459 <oleander soup > Monday, October 26, 2009 6:11 AM More Good News > Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. > (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking > Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 > TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, > iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have > switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic > chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed > grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and > organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in > the diet whatsoever. > > Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim > had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to > place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they > said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the > same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I > again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon > (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but > said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily > stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. > But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he > didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT > 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He > also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch > and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because > there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim > is defying the odds and is doing extremely well. > > Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level > is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he > is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had > 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the > combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came > back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great > and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin > went up a point. He seems to be handling things well. > > My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, > should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to > start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I > change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is > still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our > next step is to get them to take out Jtube. > > Sherri > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sherri, Forgot to mention.... you said you were taking the oleander in LIQUID form and I'm thinking this may have been making all the difference. Taking it that way the liquid was contacting the cancer directly. If you take the capsule form it may not do the same thing. It's just possible that that is what made the difference... better ask Tony for this thoughts on this. Bob - " bballmvp4 " <broderick1459 <oleander soup > Monday, October 26, 2009 6:11 AM More Good News > Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. > (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking > Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 > TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, > iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have > switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic > chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed > grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and > organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in > the diet whatsoever. > > Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim > had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to > place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they > said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the > same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I > again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon > (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but > said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily > stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. > But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he > didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT > 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He > also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch > and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because > there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim > is defying the odds and is doing extremely well. > > Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level > is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he > is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had > 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the > combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came > back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great > and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin > went up a point. He seems to be handling things well. > > My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, > should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to > start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I > change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is > still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our > next step is to get them to take out Jtube. > > Sherri > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 This is wonderful! Continued healing energy on the way! Donna ACS > > > Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk > 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking > Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to > 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with > selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell > Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally > he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic > Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes > from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. > Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever. > > Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since > Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they > wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the > stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted > us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with > achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to > speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch > and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last > Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to > 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came > out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the > esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed > tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his > esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said > it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be > any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the > odds and is doing extremely well. > > Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy > level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair > although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last > scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We > truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay > healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the > normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is > just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems > to be handling things well. > > My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is > making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but > are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat > more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very > hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a > day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. > > Sherri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm really glad to hear that Jim is doing so well. The effectiveness of the oleander is definitely dosage dependent. As the type of cancer is in the esophagus, the liquid may be slightly more effective than the capsules as it will act both systemically and by direct contact with the cancer. I suggest you keep the liquid dosage as is and also take 2 - 3 capsules per day. That way you can get the benefit of both and your cost will remain relatively low. Marc Swanepoel - bballmvp4 oleander soup Monday, October 26, 2009 3:11 PM More Good News Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever.Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the odds and is doing extremely well.Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems to be handling things well.My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Bob - I agree with both you and Marc that bringing the oleander liquid into direct contact with the esophageal cancer likely was a big benefit. Getting the oleander into contact with cancer cells would have to be beneficial wherever possible I think. As a thought on that subject, if I had rectal cancer, I would seriously consider administering enemas which contained oleander extract and colloidal silver. That is one reason I am excited that Marc is working on a topical concentrated oleander/DMSO product for topical cancers and skin conditions. Ooops - did I just spill the beans? oleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Sherri,> > Forgot to mention.... you said you were taking the oleander in > LIQUID form and I'm thinking this may have been making all the difference. > Taking it that way the liquid was contacting the cancer directly. If you > take the capsule form it may not do the same thing. It's just possible that > that is what made the difference... better ask Tony for this thoughts on > this.> > Bob> - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sherri WOW!! That is awesome news, it sure made my day hopefully things will go that well for me as I am doing all natural for throat cancer. Your good news makes me more comfortable with what I am doing. Thank you so much for the update on Jim and tell him I am very glad to hear he can finally eat normally. Pam bballmvp4 <broderick1459oleander soup Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 7:11:24 AM More Good News Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever.Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the odds and is doing extremely well.Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems to be handling things well.My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sherri thats great news. That's what we all look foword in this forum to hear this kind of fantastic news, as it give us all hope to keep going on. 5 teaspoons i think is enough, but Tony is the one to answer this question. Hugs Mary - bballmvp4 oleander soup Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:11 AM More Good News Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever.Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the odds and is doing extremely well.Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems to be handling things well.My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Thanks for the response. Little by little we are incorporating more BP and organic route. He looks good and we just take it one day at a time. We will worry about tomorrow when it gets here. - Shannara Danasis oleander soup Monday, October 26, 2009 4:04 PM Re: More Good News Sherri WOW!! That is awesome news, it sure made my day hopefully things will go that well for me as I am doing all natural for throat cancer. Your good news makes me more comfortable with what I am doing. Thank you so much for the update on Jim and tell him I am very glad to hear he can finally eat normally. Pam bballmvp4 <broderick1459 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>oleander soup Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 7:11:24 AM More Good News Last posting I commented that Jims Cancer in the esophagus has shrunk 80%. (Stage IV2B). He was diagnosed 6/4/09. At present, we are taking Oleander (5 teaspoons per day) and following Budwig Diet. (4TBS F/O to 8 TBS CC. We Do Not follow BP 100%. I am supplementing him with selenium, iodine, fish oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, B Complex, Cell Fort. I have switched him over to about 80% organic but occasionally he eats organic chicken. Organic Milk with Omega 3 and Grain 4 Organic Eggs, (Chickens fed grains and flaxseed). Most protein he gets comes from these eggs and organic beans and lentils and brown rice. Absolutely no sugar at all in the diet whatsoever.Last week I called the Dr. to ask them to do esophagus stretch since Jim had limited capabilities eating food by mouth. Immediately they wanted to place a stent in and I refused. I asked them why not the stretch and they said due to the cancer it won't work and they wanted us to go back to the same Dr. who had misdiagnosed him previously with achalasia not cancer. I again said NO. So last Monday we went in to speak with the surgeon (Thoracic) and pleaded our case for a stretch and he finally agreed, but said it probably won't work. Well last Friday, they went in and easily stretched his esophagus from 4 mm to 16 mm and Jim can now eat normally. But remarkably the surgeon came out quite perplexed. He said that he didn't see any cancer inside the esophagus anymore, only scar tissue. CAT 1 month ago still showed tumor inside esophagus but it is now gone. He also said that his esophagus looked smoothe and pliable, easy to stretch and that he said it was a good thing we didn't go stent route because there wouldn't be any place to attach the stent to. So, once again, Jim is defying the odds and is doing extremely well.Jim has gained 3 lbs over the weekend eating normally. His energy level is way up, attitude is great, and he is starting to grow hair although he is still on chemo every other week. Again, since last scan, Jim only had 1 chemo treatment due to a break in schedule. We truly believe that the combo of oleander/BP is helping him stay healthy. His last bloodwork came back with WBC at 4.7. Well within the normal range. Platelets look great and RBC went up a little and is just below normal range and the hemoglobin went up a point. He seems to be handling things well.My question is with everything he is doing and the progress he is making, should I up his Oleander? We have been using the extract but are about to start the Rose Laurel in a couple of days. Now he can eat more, should I change his diet to be more BP compliant? It is very hard since he is still working full time and so far has never missed a day of work. Our next step is to get them to take out Jtube. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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