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Hi all;

I've studied their stuff in depth, and we should keep in mind that while

parkinson's is one disease entity in WM, it is based in many different CM

patterns, thus yin tui na can only be expected to work on some cases.

I do agree with Yehuda that treatments must, in any case, be as complete as

possible - the idea being to bring many threads together in order to weave a

larger rope.

Yehuda, have you read the book?

 

Hugo

 

 

 

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http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Medicine

Sunday, 11 January, 2009 0:07:34

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Dear Edita,

 

We went up to Santa Cruz and met with the group. Interesting stuff. They have

had success with Parkinson's patients who have not started taking Simemet and

other Dopamine enhancing drugs, but their approach, Yin Tui Na, doesn't work in

every case, and requires alot of work. One other very important point that

their work reimforced was that healing must be pursued on a multitude of levels:

Biochemically, bioelectrically, and biomechanically for it to be sustained and

lasting.

 

Good Luck,

 

, Candidate DAOM

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

 

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zvedita <zvedita (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

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Saturday, January 10, 2009, 7:27 PM

 

Hi Kimberly and the group

 

There is an interesting information about PD and Chinese medicine on

this site. If the person is newly diagnosed and didn't start medication

yet, it's worth to try.

 

http://www.pdrecove ry.org/

 

All the best to everybody in 2009

 

Edita,

TCM student

 

 

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Hi Hugo,

 

Yes, I have it and have read it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hugo Ramiro <subincor

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Sunday, January 11, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all;

I've studied their stuff in depth, and we should keep in mind that while

parkinson's is one disease entity in WM, it is based in many different CM

patterns, thus yin tui na can only be expected to work on some cases.

I do agree with Yehuda that treatments must, in any case, be as complete as

possible - the idea being to bring many threads together in order to weave a

larger rope.

Yehuda, have you read the book?

 

Hugo

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com

http://www.chinesem edicaltherapies. org

 

____________ _________ _________ __

>

 

Sunday, 11 January, 2009 0:07:34

Re: Re: Parkinson's Disease

 

Dear Edita,

 

We went up to Santa Cruz and met with the group. Interesting stuff. They have

had success with Parkinson's patients who have not started taking Simemet and

other Dopamine enhancing drugs, but their approach, Yin Tui Na, doesn't work in

every case, and requires alot of work. One other very important point that their

work reimforced was that healing must be pursued on a multitude of levels:

Biochemically, bioelectrically, and biomechanically for it to be sustained and

lasting.

 

Good Luck,

 

, Candidate DAOM

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, zvedita <zvedita (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

zvedita <zvedita (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Parkinson's Disease

 

Saturday, January 10, 2009, 7:27 PM

 

Hi Kimberly and the group

 

There is an interesting information about PD and Chinese medicine on

this site. If the person is newly diagnosed and didn't start medication

yet, it's worth to try.

 

http://www.pdrecove ry.org/

 

All the best to everybody in 2009

 

Edita,

TCM student

 

 

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Chinese Medicine , " kimmymarin "

<kimmymarin wrote:

>

> Has anyone had any success in treating Parkinson's patients. This

one

> hits close to home. A family member was just diagnosed yesterday

and I

> am trying to collect information. Her history:

>

> 60 y.o. female

> Tongue: extremely flabby and pale with white coating

> Pulse: very wiry

> sleep: suffers from insomnia...cant fall asleep or stay asleep

 

 

>

Thanks for all the info.. I have read the book and actually arrange

to go out to Santa Cruz for a week with my family member. The theory

is very interesting and it just so happens that this person has had

several foot injuries (theory for cause). I was wondering if anyone

had any experience with their methods and if so what was the outcome?

 

thanks!

Kimberly Marin AP, RD

www. evowellness. com

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Hi Kimmy,

 

When I was a very new assistant in the PCOM clinic, I helped an intern treat a

woman with Parkinson's.  The most interesting thing I remember was that he

switched from using needles to using press tacks, because her tremors were so

severe that using needles posed a hazard - either they would be hurled across

the room, or she would be injured with them.  I thought press tacks were a

brilliant solution for this problem.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

1770 E. Villa Drive, Suite 5

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

 

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Sunday, January 25, 2009, 1:40 PM

 

Chinese Medicine , " kimmymarin "

<kimmymarin wrote:

>

> Has anyone had any success in treating Parkinson's patients. This

one

> hits close to home. A family member was just diagnosed yesterday

and I

> am trying to collect information. Her history:

>

> 60 y.o. female

> Tongue: extremely flabby and pale with white coating

> Pulse: very wiry

> sleep: suffers from insomnia...cant fall asleep or stay asleep

 

 

>

Thanks for all the info.. I have read the book and actually arrange

to go out to Santa Cruz for a week with my family member. The theory

is very interesting and it just so happens that this person has had

several foot injuries (theory for cause). I was wondering if anyone

had any experience with their methods and if so what was the outcome?

 

thanks!

Kimberly Marin AP, RD

www. evowellness. com

 

 

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I have had the opportunity to treat an individual with PD. The results

were impressive at first, with a reduction in tremor initially for

some hours post session. With each session, the tremors did abate

while he was on the table, but returned after becoming mobile.

I studied the protocol from the old PD clinic, however i did not find

the case to fit the protocol, i did however use the Stomach

Meridian/Area frequently.

When i was last at Five Branches there was no clinic for PD, and i am

not certain that the author of the book actually finished it, you

might try and contact her directly if that's possible.

Regards, Tymothy

 

 

" kimmymarin " <kimmymarin wrote:

>

> Chinese Medicine , " kimmymarin "

> <kimmymarin@> wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone had any success in treating Parkinson's patients. This

> one

> > hits close to home. A family member was just diagnosed yesterday

> and I

> > am trying to collect information. Her history:

> >

> > 60 y.o. female

> > Tongue: extremely flabby and pale with white coating

> > Pulse: very wiry

> > sleep: suffers from insomnia...cant fall asleep or stay asleep

>

>

> >

> Thanks for all the info.. I have read the book and actually arrange

> to go out to Santa Cruz for a week with my family member. The theory

> is very interesting and it just so happens that this person has had

> several foot injuries (theory for cause). I was wondering if anyone

> had any experience with their methods and if so what was the outcome?

>

> thanks!

> Kimberly Marin AP, RD

> www. evowellness. com

>

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I think originally her high BP is caused by Liver yang hypertension. When

did she start having the insomnia problem? before she started the western BP

treatment or after? She can't sleep from 1am to 3am?

 

Tremors are usually a sign of liver damage. When the liver is damaged,

people will have problem sleeping from 1 am to 3 am.

 

You also mentioned she had long history of depression problem, so all her

problems are stemming from her Liver issue. To me, her gaining weight almost

means the liver is violating spleen, she did not response well to the Liu

Wei, might not response to the Jin Gui Shen Qi wan. Maybe you can try a

different direction, try Xiao Yao San or Jia Wei Xiao Yao San.

 

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM, kimmymarin <kimmymarin wrote:

 

> Has anyone had any success in treating Parkinson's patients. This one

> hits close to home. A family member was just diagnosed yesterday and I

> am trying to collect information. Her history:

>

> 60 y.o. female

> Tongue: extremely flabby and pale with white coating

> Pulse: very wiry

> sleep: suffers from insomnia...cant fall asleep or stay asleep without

> aid of meds

> diet: very healthy and not excessive (vitamins do make her have a

> ravenouse appetite)

> energy levels: 5 or 6 out of 10

> blood pressure is extremely high without meds and herbs. she was

> walking around with BP of 180/110 for a long time before she addressed

> the problem.

> tremors started in right hand then went to right foot and now she is

> having tremors in right optic nerve. nothing on left side yet. these

> started about 9 months ago. diminished strength in entire right side

> of body. handwriting is very bad.

> speech is fine.

> life long history of depression and at one point was suicidal in early

> twenties.

> in twenties and thirties was very irritable and easily agitated

>

> she definitely suffers from ki yin & yang and lv blood deficiency

> (leading to stirring heat). whenever i give her yin tonifying herbs

> she gains a tremendous amount of weight. last time i had her on lui

> wei

> di huang wan she put on 17 pounds without any change in her diet.

> right now she is taking Blue Poppy Hyperquell (which seems to be

> making

> her thick in the waist again) and about to start with Evergreens

> NeuroPlus. I am also going to give her Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan.

>

> As for acupuncture I have been doing some Tung points on the head for

> tremors. I am also going to doing the motor line and some auricular.

> I am considering doing some extraordinary meridian therapies with the

> du channel and alternating with lv 3, li 4, gb 20, ub 17, 18, 23, du

> 20, 26 and sp 3, 4, 9 ki 3, 6

>

> any comments or guidance in herbs and acupuncture are greatly welcome.

> especially any ideas how to tonify her without the 17 pound weight

> gain.

>

> in health,

>

> kimberly marin ap, rd

> www. evowellness. com

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Parkinson's disease is directly related to a shortage of glutathione in the body (See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12213603 ). A woman with advanced Parkinson's has been using the Sutherlandia OPC mixture (4 caps per day) and NAC (2000mg per day) for the last two years with very good results. Her Parkinson's has not progressed and she reports (and one can visibly see) that her tremors are much less than before she had started on this protocol.

 

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

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My husband has Parkinsons Disease and was recently told to try Oleander soup. We have not been able to find any info linking these together. Any input? Thank you---

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