Which is the best? Different forms of selenium, food sources and more

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when you refer to LEF,

youre referring to life extension?

http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com?

 

thanks

 

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> I wasn't intending to list a supplement, just the source of some of my

> information. I guess it comes down to finding a trusted source with a

> good price for the amount of supplement. And of course I am a bit

> prejudiced, being a LEF affiliate (because I do trust the quality of the

> majority of their products).

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07@> wrote:

> >

> > That was a really good article Tony. Super.

> >

> > You listed this supplement:

> > http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.ht

> > m

> > And someone else on this forum recently listed the following one,

> which seem to have more selenium:

> > http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com/noname9.html

> >

> > By comparing, which one is the best?

> >

> > thanks!

> >

> > oleander soup , "" @ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Most forms of selenium found in nature are either sodium selenite,

> > > selenomethionine, or selenium cysteine. By far the most common form

> is

> > > selenomethionine, and this includes the majority of the selenium

> found

> > > in Brazil nuts (which are the richest source of selenium found in

> > > nature, having as much as 533 iu per ounce).

> > >

> > > Selected food sources of selenium

> > >

> > >

> > > Food

> > >

> > > Micrograms

> > > (μg)

> > >

> > > Percent

> > > DV*

> > >

> > > Brazil nuts, dried, unblanched, 1 ounce

> > >

> > > 544

> > >

> > > 780

> > >

> > > Tuna, light, canned in oil, drained, 3 ounces

> > >

> > > 63

> > >

> > > 95

> > >

> > > Beef, cooked, 3½ ounces

> > >

> > > 35

> > >

> > > 50

> > >

> > > Spaghetti w/ meat sauce, frozen entrée, 1 serving

> > >

> > > 34

> > >

> > > 50

> > >

> > > Cod, cooked, 3 ounces

> > >

> > > 32

> > >

> > > 45

> > >

> > > Turkey, light meat, roasted, 3½ ounces

> > >

> > > 32

> > >

> > > 45

> > >

> > > Beef chuck roast, lean only, roasted, 3 ounces

> > >

> > > 23

> > >

> > > 35

> > >

> > > Chicken Breast, meat only, roasted, 3½ ounces

> > >

> > > 20

> > >

> > > 30

> > >

> > > Noodles, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup

> > >

> > > 17

> > >

> > > 25

> > >

> > > Macaroni, elbow, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > 20

> > >

> > > Egg, whole, 1 medium

> > >

> > > 14

> > >

> > > 20

> > >

> > > Cottage cheese, low fat 2%, 1/2 cup

> > >

> > > 12

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > Oatmeal, instant, fortified, cooked, 1 cup

> > >

> > > 12

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > Rice, white, enriched, long grain, cooked, 1/2 cup

> > >

> > > 12

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > Rice, brown, long-grained, cooked, 1/2 cup

> > >

> > > 10

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > Bread, enriched, whole wheat, commercially prepared, 1 slice

> > >

> > > 10

> > >

> > > 15

> > >

> > > Walnuts, black, dried, 1 ounce

> > >

> > > 5

> > >

> > > 8

> > >

> > > Bread, enriched, white, commercially prepared, 1 slice

> > >

> > > 4

> > >

> > > 6

> > >

> > > Cheddar cheese, 1 ounce

> > >

> > > 4

> > >

> > > 6

> > >

> > >

> > > Note: Although the RDA for selenium is only 55 iu for people age 14

> and

> > > over (70 iu for pregnant and lactating women), those amounts are

> like

> > > other RDA amounts - bare minimums that do not reflect the optimum

> amount

> > > for best health, much less the therapeutic amounts needed to fight

> > > serious disease such as cancer.

> > >

> > > In the Berkson Clinical Study which found that selected

> anti-oxidants

> > > and lifestyle changes reversed what had been considered to be

> hopeless

> > > liver damage, the patients were given 400 mcg in 2 divided portions

> of

> > > 200 mcg.

> > >

> > > Regardless of the form of selenium utlized, it is a vital co-factor

> for

> > > iodine. However, the best form of selenium is likely

> > > Se-methylselenocysteine (SeMC), especially when it comes to fighting

> and

> > > preventing cancer.

> > >

> > > Se-methylselenocysteine is found most abundantly in brocolli and

> garlic

> > > which is grown in selenium rich soils.

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of info I found:

> > >

> > > The most actively produced and sold to the public, selenomethione

> > > (SeMSC, found in in higher amounts in grains), has been

> comparatively

> > > ineffective in stopping cancer induced in animal tests. Naturally,

> it

> > > was this form of selenium - in inorganic form at that - which was

> used

> > > in the SELECT test which purported to show that Selenium and Vitamin

> E

> > > (again the wrong form was used), which mainstream medicine has used

> as

> > > " proof " that they are ineffective against cancer.

> > >

> > > Besides being an important co-factor for iodine, selenium is now

> well

> > > established as a potent cancer-fighting trace mineral. Areas of the

> > > world with more selenium-rich soil have lower cancer rates, and a

> > > randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial in the 1990s

> showed

> > > that men taking a daily 200 microgram selenium supplement

> experienced a

> > > 37% lower risk of developing new cancer, and a whopping 50% lower

> risk

> > > of cancer death.

> > >

> > > But not all forms of selenium are equal in their cancer-fighting

> > > properties. To everyone's surprise, the last decade of scientific

> > > research has found that selenium's anticancer effect is not due to

> > > its use as part of antioxidant or detoxifying compounds in the body.

> > > It's also not linked to absolute tissue levels of selenium achieved

> > > by a given form of selenium, or to its ability to boost the immune

> > > system. Instead, the cancer-fighting potency of any form of selenium

> is

> > > linked to its ability to form methylselenol, a critical selenium

> > > metabolite in the body.

> > >

> > > As a result of this research, science has identified

> > > Se-methylselenocysteine, or SeMC, as a form of selenium which is

> > > directly and easily converted into this key cancer-fighting

> metabolite

> > > – unlike conventional inorganic (selenite or selenate) or

> organic

> > > (selenomethionine, or selenized yeast) selenium supplements. As a

> > > result, SeMC is simultaneously more potent in its cancer-battling

> > > prowess, and less toxic per unit of cancer-fighting punch, than any

> > > other selenium supplement available.

> > >

> > > •SeMC is twice as effective as selenomethionine at reducing

> breast

> > > tumor formation after exposure to the chemical carcinogens

> > > dimethylbenz[a]anthracene (DMBA) and methylnitrosourea (MNU), and

> half

> > > again as effective as inorganic forms.

> > >

> > > •At the same time, SeMC is much safer than inorganic selenium,

> and

> > > of comparable safety to the much less-effective selenomethionine.

> > >

> > > SeMC is the main form of selenium that accumulates in known

> > > cancer-fighting foods like broccoli, ramps, garlic, and (to a lesser

> > > extent) onions when grown in selenium-rich soil. Studies

> > > high-SeMC-cultivars of these vegetables suggest that SeMC is a key

> > > element in the cancer-fighting efficacy of these protective

> vegetables.

> > >

> > > •High-SeMC broccoli gives animals more protection against

> > > early-stage colon cancer than does an equal amount of conventional

> > > selenium, an equal amount of regular broccoli, or even a combination

> of

> > > both.

> > >

> > > •Similar results are seen in battling abnormal cells that lead

> to

> > > breast or colon cancer using high-SeMC garlic vs. the same amount of

> > > selenium from high-selenomethionine yeast or Brazil nuts.

> > >

> > > •SeMC is proven effective in an animal model of familial

> adenomatous

> > > polyposis (FAP), a human genetic vulnerability to colon cancer. No

> other

> > > natural selenium compound has been shown to do this.

> > >

> > > Unique Mechanisms of Action: SeMC fights cancer in ways

> fundamentally

> > > different from other selenium forms.

> > >

> > > •Apoptosis vs Necrosis: Inorganic selenium kills cancer cells

> > > through nonselective damage to the DNA and cell membranes of both

> > > healthy cells and cancer cells, leading to toxic cell death

> (necrosis).

> > > SeMC selectively activates cancer cells' " suicide program "

> > > (apoptosis) without damage to healthy cells.

> > >

> > > •Gene expression: SeMC regulates cellular growth programs,

> > > inhibiting cancer cells earlier in the cell cycle than does

> inorganic

> > > selenium.

> > >

> > > •Angiogenesis: SeMC may also act by cutting off the growing

> > > tumor's blood supply more effectively than the common selenium

> > > supplements, without interfering with the growth of blood vessels in

> > > normal, healthy tissue.

> > >

> > > By any measure, SeMC has proved itself to be the best selenium you

> can

> > > take. The National Cancer Institute apparently agrees: it is in the

> > > process of filing " Investigational New Drug " documents to use

> > > SeMC instead of other selenium supplements in future human trials.

> > >

> > > Another thing selenium does - it binds with mercury and helps

> eliminate

> > > it from the body.

> > >

> > > Sources included:

> > >

> > > http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm

> > > <http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm>

> > >

> > > http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm

> > > <http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm>

> > >

> > > The bottom line for me is that, unless I grew my own brocolli,

> garlic

> > > and/or onions in soil I knew to be selenium rich, I would supplement

> and

> > > I would do so with SeMC.

> > >

> > > I am going to see if I cannot get Ben at Utopia Silver to change

> over to

> > > SeMC, and I note that one of his favorite suppliers (Jarrow

> Formulas)

> > > carries it.

> > >

> > > All the best,

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > oleander soup , " tedsanford@ " <tedsanford@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Tony:

> > > > Can you get enough of either form by eating Brazil nuts, and if so

> how

> > > many?

> > > > Ted

> > > >

> > > > oleander soup , "" @ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > That form of selenium is good to use as an important co-factor

> for

> > > > > iodine and is the most common form found, but when it comes to

> > > cancer,

> > > > > the preferred form is methylselenocycteine which has its own

> cancer

> > > > > fighting abilities from what I have gathered.

> > > > >

> > > > > All the best,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > i just read Tony's protocol, and what he says seems

> > > > > > to indicate that utopiasilver's selenium is not one to use.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Am i right?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Because tony says " The most common form of supplemental

> selenium

> > > is

> > > > > selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer

> activity "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And utopiasilver's selenium info is:

> > > > > > Selenium (from selenomethionine)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>