Which is the best? Different forms of selenium, food sources and more

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I wasn't intending to list a supplement, just the source of some of my information. I guess it comes down to finding a trusted source with a good price for the amount of supplement. And of course I am a bit prejudiced, being a LEF affiliate (because I do trust the quality of the majority of their products).

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oleander soup , "ftfft" <micfo07 wrote:>> That was a really good article Tony. Super.> > You listed this supplement:> http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.ht> m> And someone else on this forum recently listed the following one, which seem to have more selenium:> http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com/noname9.html> > By comparing, which one is the best?> > thanks!> > oleander soup , "TonyI" @ wrote:> >> > > > Most forms of selenium found in nature are either sodium selenite,> > selenomethionine, or selenium cysteine. By far the most common form is> > selenomethionine, and this includes the majority of the selenium found> > in Brazil nuts (which are the richest source of selenium found in> > nature, having as much as 533 iu per ounce).> > > > Selected food sources of selenium> > > > > > Food> > > > Micrograms> > (μg)> > > > Percent> > DV*> > > > Brazil nuts, dried, unblanched, 1 ounce> > > > 544> > > > 780> > > > Tuna, light, canned in oil, drained, 3 ounces> > > > 63> > > > 95> > > > Beef, cooked, 3½ ounces> > > > 35> > > > 50> > > > Spaghetti w/ meat sauce, frozen entrée, 1 serving> > > > 34> > > > 50> > > > Cod, cooked, 3 ounces> > > > 32> > > > 45> > > > Turkey, light meat, roasted, 3½ ounces> > > > 32> > > > 45> > > > Beef chuck roast, lean only, roasted, 3 ounces> > > > 23> > > > 35> > > > Chicken Breast, meat only, roasted, 3½ ounces> > > > 20> > > > 30> > > > Noodles, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup> > > > 17> > > > 25> > > > Macaroni, elbow, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup> > > > 15> > > > 20> > > > Egg, whole, 1 medium> > > > 14> > > > 20> > > > Cottage cheese, low fat 2%, 1/2 cup> > > > 12> > > > 15> > > > Oatmeal, instant, fortified, cooked, 1 cup> > > > 12> > > > 15> > > > Rice, white, enriched, long grain, cooked, 1/2 cup> > > > 12> > > > 15> > > > Rice, brown, long-grained, cooked, 1/2 cup> > > > 10> > > > 15> > > > Bread, enriched, whole wheat, commercially prepared, 1 slice> > > > 10> > > > 15> > > > Walnuts, black, dried, 1 ounce> > > > 5> > > > 8> > > > Bread, enriched, white, commercially prepared, 1 slice> > > > 4> > > > 6> > > > Cheddar cheese, 1 ounce> > > > 4> > > > 6> > > > > > Note: Although the RDA for selenium is only 55 iu for people age 14 and> > over (70 iu for pregnant and lactating women), those amounts are like> > other RDA amounts - bare minimums that do not reflect the optimum amount> > for best health, much less the therapeutic amounts needed to fight> > serious disease such as cancer.> > > > In the Berkson Clinical Study which found that selected anti-oxidants> > and lifestyle changes reversed what had been considered to be hopeless> > liver damage, the patients were given 400 mcg in 2 divided portions of> > 200 mcg.> > > > Regardless of the form of selenium utlized, it is a vital co-factor for> > iodine. However, the best form of selenium is likely> > Se-methylselenocysteine (SeMC), especially when it comes to fighting and> > preventing cancer.> > > > Se-methylselenocysteine is found most abundantly in brocolli and garlic> > which is grown in selenium rich soils.> > > > Here is a bit of info I found:> > > > The most actively produced and sold to the public, selenomethione> > (SeMSC, found in in higher amounts in grains), has been comparatively> > ineffective in stopping cancer induced in animal tests. Naturally, it> > was this form of selenium - in inorganic form at that - which was used> > in the SELECT test which purported to show that Selenium and Vitamin E> > (again the wrong form was used), which mainstream medicine has used as> > "proof" that they are ineffective against cancer.> > > > Besides being an important co-factor for iodine, selenium is now well> > established as a potent cancer-fighting trace mineral. Areas of the> > world with more selenium-rich soil have lower cancer rates, and a> > randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial in the 1990s showed> > that men taking a daily 200 microgram selenium supplement experienced a> > 37% lower risk of developing new cancer, and a whopping 50% lower risk> > of cancer death.> > > > But not all forms of selenium are equal in their cancer-fighting> > properties. To everyone's surprise, the last decade of scientific> > research has found that selenium's anticancer effect is not due to> > its use as part of antioxidant or detoxifying compounds in the body.> > It's also not linked to absolute tissue levels of selenium achieved> > by a given form of selenium, or to its ability to boost the immune> > system. Instead, the cancer-fighting potency of any form of selenium is> > linked to its ability to form methylselenol, a critical selenium> > metabolite in the body.> > > > As a result of this research, science has identified> > Se-methylselenocysteine, or SeMC, as a form of selenium which is> > directly and easily converted into this key cancer-fighting metabolite> > – unlike conventional inorganic (selenite or selenate) or organic> > (selenomethionine, or selenized yeast) selenium supplements. As a> > result, SeMC is simultaneously more potent in its cancer-battling> > prowess, and less toxic per unit of cancer-fighting punch, than any> > other selenium supplement available.> > > > •SeMC is twice as effective as selenomethionine at reducing breast> > tumor formation after exposure to the chemical carcinogens> > dimethylbenz[a]anthracene (DMBA) and methylnitrosourea (MNU), and half> > again as effective as inorganic forms.> > > > •At the same time, SeMC is much safer than inorganic selenium, and> > of comparable safety to the much less-effective selenomethionine.> > > > SeMC is the main form of selenium that accumulates in known> > cancer-fighting foods like broccoli, ramps, garlic, and (to a lesser> > extent) onions when grown in selenium-rich soil. Studies> > high-SeMC-cultivars of these vegetables suggest that SeMC is a key> > element in the cancer-fighting efficacy of these protective vegetables.> > > > •High-SeMC broccoli gives animals more protection against> > early-stage colon cancer than does an equal amount of conventional> > selenium, an equal amount of regular broccoli, or even a combination of> > both.> > > > •Similar results are seen in battling abnormal cells that lead to> > breast or colon cancer using high-SeMC garlic vs. the same amount of> > selenium from high-selenomethionine yeast or Brazil nuts.> > > > •SeMC is proven effective in an animal model of familial adenomatous> > polyposis (FAP), a human genetic vulnerability to colon cancer. No other> > natural selenium compound has been shown to do this.> > > > Unique Mechanisms of Action: SeMC fights cancer in ways fundamentally> > different from other selenium forms.> > > > •Apoptosis vs Necrosis: Inorganic selenium kills cancer cells> > through nonselective damage to the DNA and cell membranes of both> > healthy cells and cancer cells, leading to toxic cell death (necrosis).> > SeMC selectively activates cancer cells' "suicide program"> > (apoptosis) without damage to healthy cells.> > > > •Gene expression: SeMC regulates cellular growth programs,> > inhibiting cancer cells earlier in the cell cycle than does inorganic> > selenium.> > > > •Angiogenesis: SeMC may also act by cutting off the growing> > tumor's blood supply more effectively than the common selenium> > supplements, without interfering with the growth of blood vessels in> > normal, healthy tissue.> > > > By any measure, SeMC has proved itself to be the best selenium you can> > take. The National Cancer Institute apparently agrees: it is in the> > process of filing "Investigational New Drug" documents to use> > SeMC instead of other selenium supplements in future human trials.> > > > Another thing selenium does - it binds with mercury and helps eliminate> > it from the body.> > > > Sources included:> > > > http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm> > <http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm>> > > > http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm> > <http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm>> > > > The bottom line for me is that, unless I grew my own brocolli, garlic> > and/or onions in soil I knew to be selenium rich, I would supplement and> > I would do so with SeMC.> > > > I am going to see if I cannot get Ben at Utopia Silver to change over to> > SeMC, and I note that one of his favorite suppliers (Jarrow Formulas)> > carries it.> > > > All the best,> > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "tedsanford@" <tedsanford@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Tony:> > > Can you get enough of either form by eating Brazil nuts, and if so how> > many?> > > Ted> > >> > > oleander soup , "TonyI" @ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > That form of selenium is good to use as an important co-factor for> > > > iodine and is the most common form found, but when it comes to> > cancer,> > > > the preferred form is methylselenocycteine which has its own cancer> > > > fighting abilities from what I have gathered.> > > >> > > > All the best,> > > >> > > > Tony> > > >> > > >> > > > oleander soup , "ftfft" <micfo07@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hi,> > > > > i just read Tony's protocol, and what he says seems> > > > > to indicate that utopiasilver's selenium is not one to use.> > > > >> > > > > Am i right?> > > > >> > > > > Because tony says "The most common form of supplemental selenium> > is> > > > selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer activity"> > > > >> > > > > And utopiasilver's selenium info is:> > > > > Selenium (from selenomethionine)> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>