Which is the best? Different forms of selenium, food sources and more

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That was a really good article Tony. Super.

 

You listed this supplement:

http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.ht

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And someone else on this forum recently listed the following one, which seem to

have more selenium:

http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com/noname9.html

 

By comparing, which one is the best?

 

thanks!

 

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> Most forms of selenium found in nature are either sodium selenite,

> selenomethionine, or selenium cysteine. By far the most common form is

> selenomethionine, and this includes the majority of the selenium found

> in Brazil nuts (which are the richest source of selenium found in

> nature, having as much as 533 iu per ounce).

>

> Selected food sources of selenium

>

>

> Food

>

> Micrograms

> (μg)

>

> Percent

> DV*

>

> Brazil nuts, dried, unblanched, 1 ounce

>

> 544

>

> 780

>

> Tuna, light, canned in oil, drained, 3 ounces

>

> 63

>

> 95

>

> Beef, cooked, 3½ ounces

>

> 35

>

> 50

>

> Spaghetti w/ meat sauce, frozen entrée, 1 serving

>

> 34

>

> 50

>

> Cod, cooked, 3 ounces

>

> 32

>

> 45

>

> Turkey, light meat, roasted, 3½ ounces

>

> 32

>

> 45

>

> Beef chuck roast, lean only, roasted, 3 ounces

>

> 23

>

> 35

>

> Chicken Breast, meat only, roasted, 3½ ounces

>

> 20

>

> 30

>

> Noodles, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup

>

> 17

>

> 25

>

> Macaroni, elbow, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup

>

> 15

>

> 20

>

> Egg, whole, 1 medium

>

> 14

>

> 20

>

> Cottage cheese, low fat 2%, 1/2 cup

>

> 12

>

> 15

>

> Oatmeal, instant, fortified, cooked, 1 cup

>

> 12

>

> 15

>

> Rice, white, enriched, long grain, cooked, 1/2 cup

>

> 12

>

> 15

>

> Rice, brown, long-grained, cooked, 1/2 cup

>

> 10

>

> 15

>

> Bread, enriched, whole wheat, commercially prepared, 1 slice

>

> 10

>

> 15

>

> Walnuts, black, dried, 1 ounce

>

> 5

>

> 8

>

> Bread, enriched, white, commercially prepared, 1 slice

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> Cheddar cheese, 1 ounce

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

>

> Note: Although the RDA for selenium is only 55 iu for people age 14 and

> over (70 iu for pregnant and lactating women), those amounts are like

> other RDA amounts - bare minimums that do not reflect the optimum amount

> for best health, much less the therapeutic amounts needed to fight

> serious disease such as cancer.

>

> In the Berkson Clinical Study which found that selected anti-oxidants

> and lifestyle changes reversed what had been considered to be hopeless

> liver damage, the patients were given 400 mcg in 2 divided portions of

> 200 mcg.

>

> Regardless of the form of selenium utlized, it is a vital co-factor for

> iodine. However, the best form of selenium is likely

> Se-methylselenocysteine (SeMC), especially when it comes to fighting and

> preventing cancer.

>

> Se-methylselenocysteine is found most abundantly in brocolli and garlic

> which is grown in selenium rich soils.

>

> Here is a bit of info I found:

>

> The most actively produced and sold to the public, selenomethione

> (SeMSC, found in in higher amounts in grains), has been comparatively

> ineffective in stopping cancer induced in animal tests. Naturally, it

> was this form of selenium - in inorganic form at that - which was used

> in the SELECT test which purported to show that Selenium and Vitamin E

> (again the wrong form was used), which mainstream medicine has used as

> " proof " that they are ineffective against cancer.

>

> Besides being an important co-factor for iodine, selenium is now well

> established as a potent cancer-fighting trace mineral. Areas of the

> world with more selenium-rich soil have lower cancer rates, and a

> randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial in the 1990s showed

> that men taking a daily 200 microgram selenium supplement experienced a

> 37% lower risk of developing new cancer, and a whopping 50% lower risk

> of cancer death.

>

> But not all forms of selenium are equal in their cancer-fighting

> properties. To everyone's surprise, the last decade of scientific

> research has found that selenium's anticancer effect is not due to

> its use as part of antioxidant or detoxifying compounds in the body.

> It's also not linked to absolute tissue levels of selenium achieved

> by a given form of selenium, or to its ability to boost the immune

> system. Instead, the cancer-fighting potency of any form of selenium is

> linked to its ability to form methylselenol, a critical selenium

> metabolite in the body.

>

> As a result of this research, science has identified

> Se-methylselenocysteine, or SeMC, as a form of selenium which is

> directly and easily converted into this key cancer-fighting metabolite

> – unlike conventional inorganic (selenite or selenate) or organic

> (selenomethionine, or selenized yeast) selenium supplements. As a

> result, SeMC is simultaneously more potent in its cancer-battling

> prowess, and less toxic per unit of cancer-fighting punch, than any

> other selenium supplement available.

>

> •SeMC is twice as effective as selenomethionine at reducing breast

> tumor formation after exposure to the chemical carcinogens

> dimethylbenz[a]anthracene (DMBA) and methylnitrosourea (MNU), and half

> again as effective as inorganic forms.

>

> •At the same time, SeMC is much safer than inorganic selenium, and

> of comparable safety to the much less-effective selenomethionine.

>

> SeMC is the main form of selenium that accumulates in known

> cancer-fighting foods like broccoli, ramps, garlic, and (to a lesser

> extent) onions when grown in selenium-rich soil. Studies

> high-SeMC-cultivars of these vegetables suggest that SeMC is a key

> element in the cancer-fighting efficacy of these protective vegetables.

>

> •High-SeMC broccoli gives animals more protection against

> early-stage colon cancer than does an equal amount of conventional

> selenium, an equal amount of regular broccoli, or even a combination of

> both.

>

> •Similar results are seen in battling abnormal cells that lead to

> breast or colon cancer using high-SeMC garlic vs. the same amount of

> selenium from high-selenomethionine yeast or Brazil nuts.

>

> •SeMC is proven effective in an animal model of familial adenomatous

> polyposis (FAP), a human genetic vulnerability to colon cancer. No other

> natural selenium compound has been shown to do this.

>

> Unique Mechanisms of Action: SeMC fights cancer in ways fundamentally

> different from other selenium forms.

>

> •Apoptosis vs Necrosis: Inorganic selenium kills cancer cells

> through nonselective damage to the DNA and cell membranes of both

> healthy cells and cancer cells, leading to toxic cell death (necrosis).

> SeMC selectively activates cancer cells' " suicide program "

> (apoptosis) without damage to healthy cells.

>

> •Gene expression: SeMC regulates cellular growth programs,

> inhibiting cancer cells earlier in the cell cycle than does inorganic

> selenium.

>

> •Angiogenesis: SeMC may also act by cutting off the growing

> tumor's blood supply more effectively than the common selenium

> supplements, without interfering with the growth of blood vessels in

> normal, healthy tissue.

>

> By any measure, SeMC has proved itself to be the best selenium you can

> take. The National Cancer Institute apparently agrees: it is in the

> process of filing " Investigational New Drug " documents to use

> SeMC instead of other selenium supplements in future human trials.

>

> Another thing selenium does - it binds with mercury and helps eliminate

> it from the body.

>

> Sources included:

>

> http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm

> <http://www.healthbulletin.org/nutrients/nutrients7.htm>

>

> http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm

> <http://relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/semc-selenium.htm>

>

> The bottom line for me is that, unless I grew my own brocolli, garlic

> and/or onions in soil I knew to be selenium rich, I would supplement and

> I would do so with SeMC.

>

> I am going to see if I cannot get Ben at Utopia Silver to change over to

> SeMC, and I note that one of his favorite suppliers (Jarrow Formulas)

> carries it.

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " tedsanford@ " <tedsanford@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Tony:

> > Can you get enough of either form by eating Brazil nuts, and if so how

> many?

> > Ted

> >

> > oleander soup , "" @ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > That form of selenium is good to use as an important co-factor for

> > > iodine and is the most common form found, but when it comes to

> cancer,

> > > the preferred form is methylselenocycteine which has its own cancer

> > > fighting abilities from what I have gathered.

> > >

> > > All the best,

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > i just read Tony's protocol, and what he says seems

> > > > to indicate that utopiasilver's selenium is not one to use.

> > > >

> > > > Am i right?

> > > >

> > > > Because tony says " The most common form of supplemental selenium

> is

> > > selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer activity "

> > > >

> > > > And utopiasilver's selenium info is:

> > > > Selenium (from selenomethionine)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>