Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Doctors Concerned FluMist Vaccine Could Spread Live H1N1 Virus By dochand Tuesday, October 6, 2009 Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen? Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1 vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and underlying health conditions. “Several metro area hospitals said they won’t be taking the FluMist because they don’t want to endanger patients,” reports TheDenverChannel.com. Lois VanFleet, infection prevention specialist at Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette, expressed concern that doctors and nurses who inhaled the live virus could infect patients whose immune systems are compromised. However, H1N1 FluMist is being rolled out nationwide from this week, including at “drive-through clinics” across the country where the nasal spray is administered while people sit in their cars with their window wide open (see top picture). The live virus contained in the nasal spray is weakened but it can be transmitted from person to person for up to three weeks. According to studies, “the odds of transmitting the virus after receiving the nasal spray are about 2.5 percent,” with children the most susceptible. The nasal spray is being rolled out on a mass scale before the widespread introduction of the injectable vaccine. Some fear that the nasal spray will contribute to a wider pandemic, which will then provide governments with the crisis they need to make the injectable vaccine mandatory. “This would accelerate the move to a state of emergency, cripple the US health care system, and would result in the “need” to have military, eventually UN troops, take control,” notes TheFluCase.com. “Also, all public assemblies, including courts, would be prohibited, thereby satisfying a condition for the imposition of martial law, mass quarantines, and forced vaccinations for the rest of us.” According to the Mayo Clinic, the swine flu scandal of 1976, when more people died from the vaccine than the actual virus, was what caused the live virus to be removed from future vaccines. However, it is admitted that FluMist contains the live virus. “It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, and even longer from adults. Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist,” writes Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, one of the most outspoken physicians in the country on the hazards of vaccines and vaccination. FluMist’s own package insert reads as follows, “FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days.” “The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system,” writes Tenpenny, pointing out that if one takes into account a plethora of health conditions that could be classified as contributing to immunodeficiency, as much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be “chemically immunosuppressed.” “An ever greater concern about FluMist is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through “specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells” and then grown in “specific pathogen-free eggs.” That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily “pathogen-free.” The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains,” warns Tenpenny. One of the pharmaceutical companies developing nasal spray vaccines is Baxter International, who were caught earlier this year releasing batches of vaccines from a lab in Austria that were contaminated live bird flu virus, otherwise known as H5N1. The video below outlines further concerns regarding FluMist and the nasal spray vaccine in general. http://dochand.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/doctors-concerned-flumist-vaccine-could-spread-live-h1n1-virus/ "If one were going to MANUFACTURE a pandemic, the *easiest* way to do so would be to introduce live viruses into the nasal passages. Most likely, because the virus in the vaccine is NOT the same as that of the H1N1 flu going around, most likely then to cause recombinants and further reassortants. Also after getting the vaccine with live virus in it, even though the person receiving the vaccine may not get sick right away, that person is capable of “shedding” the virus to others in close proximity for a period of up to 4 weeks. IF ANYONE YOU KNOW GETS THE VACCINE – STAY AWAY FROM THEM. http://labvirus.wordpress.com/ A. True Ott PhD ND with Alexander S. Jones: UNTESTED MedImmune nasal H1N1 vaccine mist contains LIVE VIRUSES and toxic MSG among other undisclosed contents – CALL YOUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND COMPLAIN October 6, 2009 at 10:53 am (Uncategorized) Tags: h1n1 bird flu birdflu swine flu swineflu h5n1 pandemic ott deagle eisenstein cassel vaclib nvic dissent resistance vaccine vaccination toxic adjuvants mf-59 squalene genocide who cdc nih globalists ge Alexander S. Jones on The Story Behind The Story with Dr. A True Ott PhD ND today on republicbroadcasting.org Today Dr. Ott sent out a press release to all the state health workers in his state of Utah, stating that in the company’s own circular the nasal mist contains “not natural” virus “variants” – also that it contains toxic MSG, and that is has NOT been tested on pregnant women among other things. It is apparently also printed in the MedImmune circular itself that the live virus variants MAY cause transmissible infection in others [!!!!!!]. It is clear the media and government want a blind public with no discourse given to debating the safety of these vaccines. The media and government are only allowing a “party line” outbound message to be aired, and no one is allowing anyone to debate the safety of these vaccines. No one is interested in doing the morally right thing – and put their job on the line – to be a spokesperson for the government and health industry to be present in a discussion about safety. The feared and publicized 2nd wave in September never happened, and technically we should be back down to pandemic level 3 – yet it remains at 6. Without the level 6 pandemic declaration, there would have been no way to “fast track” the nasal mist past testing and through FDA approval – without full disclosure. 801-538-6101 or 6348 (Cindy L. Beemis, Public Information Specialist) is the number to the Health Department of Utah – call and ask them “why dont you respond to Dr Ott’s invitation to discuss the H1N1 vaccine safety?” If one were going to MANUFACTURE a pandemic, the *easiest* way to do so would be to introduce live viruses into the nasal passages. Most likely, because the virus in the vaccine is NOT the same as that of the H1N1 flu going around, most likely then to cause recombinants and further reassortants. Also after getting the vaccine with live virus in it, even though the person receiving the vaccine may not get sick right away, that person is capable of “shedding” the virus to others in close proximity for a period of up to 4 weeks. IF ANYONE YOU KNOW GETS THE VACCINE – STAY AWAY FROM THEM. WHY do the manufacturers have legal immunity – if they are so safe? The Glaxo-Smith-Kline Pandemrix™ vaccine has LIVE “bird flu” H5N1 DNA in it. Novartis vaccine: waiting in the wings, probably to be unveiled after the live human guinea-pig test of the nasal mist going on now is complete. POST YOUR COMMENTS NOW TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPT OF PUBLIC HEALTH – by going here: http://www.cdph.ca.gov/_layouts/dhs/sitecomments/default.aspx or CALL the CA Dept of Public Health at (916) 558-1784 EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SIMILAR LINK – FIND YOURS! http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/states.htm - Maria oleander soup Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:10 PM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Oh Barbara thank you for the offer, you are a sweet heart. But it's ok, i'm one of this people that dont give much attention to things, and since i can make tinctures, oils and other remedies my self i feel good. Again thank you. Hugs Mary - barbara elenniss oleander soup Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:23 AM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Oh! ok, I am in Germany and have co-wokers all over the world...escept Australia:-) I though it you were in a Country where I know somone I could always gets things too you. I think you commented on something being in the states. Although we are not military we do have use of military facilites so shipping from apo to apo cost nothing and also shipping from the states to apo is no more than shipping within the states. Wish I could help. Barbara--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?oleander soup Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:23 PM Hi Barbara. I'm from down under - Australia. Hugs Mary - barbara elenniss oleander soup Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:47 PM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Mary, What country are you in? Barbara--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) comau> wrote: Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?oleander soupMonday, October 5, 2009, 7:34 PM Hi Melly You are welcome, and thanks for the information where to get the black seed oil, but my funds dont allow me to buy so manny things so o make my own , because i'm so far way from America only the posting cost me $ 28 plus the product. But all is good and thanks again for the info. Hugs Mary - tita_mel oleander soup Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:29 AM Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Mary, Thanks for the "recipe" on black seed oil.I just got my order of Black Seed and Oil a few days ago from www.mountainroseHer bs.com. Call them, they don't have it in their webpage or catalogue. They have the good kind too, from Egypt. Use Tony's code to get discount. I don't know what it is though.Mellyoleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Hi Bob.> > Yes Indian stores or Asian stores may have the oil.> > I make my own oil, it may not be as good as the one you buy or maybe it is as good i dont know, but if you want try doing it like i do.> > Black seed oil.> > Buy the the black seeds from Indian or Asian store.> gring 2 cups black seeds in a coffee grader .> Warm up 3 cups olive oil, dont boil the oil just very hot, add the crushed seeds in the oil and when the oil is cool put the lot in a jar with plastic lid, keep the jar in a sunny place for 1 month, shaking the jar periodically, in the and you strain the oil and use. > > DOSE 1 teaspoon after meals 3 times daily> > Good luck Hugs Mary> > > - > rattlesnakebobbob > oleander soup > Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:13 PM> Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?> > > i seem to be having problems finding this product outside of the internet.it was suggested a east indian food store,> stay well> bob> > oleander soup, "Bob Banever" <bbanever@> wrote:> >> > bob,> > > > Pancreatic cancer and immune support.> > > > Bob> > - > > "rattlesnakebobbob" <rattlesnakebobbob@ >> > <oleander soup>> > Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:26 AM> > Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?> > > > > > > > > > what is this black seed oil used for?> > > bob> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Bob. Boy of boy, this is very scary and i thing that this people are trying to whipe us off the face of the earth, no buts about it. Thanks for the post. Hugs Mary - Bob Banever oleander soup Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:12 AM MUST READ ABOUT FLU MIST VACCINE Doctors Concerned FluMist Vaccine Could Spread Live H1N1 Virus By dochand Tuesday, October 6, 2009 Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen? Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1 vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and underlying health conditions. “Several metro area hospitals said they won’t be taking the FluMist because they don’t want to endanger patients,” reports TheDenverChannel.com. Lois VanFleet, infection prevention specialist at Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette, expressed concern that doctors and nurses who inhaled the live virus could infect patients whose immune systems are compromised. However, H1N1 FluMist is being rolled out nationwide from this week, including at “drive-through clinics” across the country where the nasal spray is administered while people sit in their cars with their window wide open (see top picture). The live virus contained in the nasal spray is weakened but it can be transmitted from person to person for up to three weeks. According to studies, “the odds of transmitting the virus after receiving the nasal spray are about 2.5 percent,” with children the most susceptible. The nasal spray is being rolled out on a mass scale before the widespread introduction of the injectable vaccine. Some fear that the nasal spray will contribute to a wider pandemic, which will then provide governments with the crisis they need to make the injectable vaccine mandatory. “This would accelerate the move to a state of emergency, cripple the US health care system, and would result in the “need” to have military, eventually UN troops, take control,” notes TheFluCase.com. “Also, all public assemblies, including courts, would be prohibited, thereby satisfying a condition for the imposition of martial law, mass quarantines, and forced vaccinations for the rest of us.” According to the Mayo Clinic, the swine flu scandal of 1976, when more people died from the vaccine than the actual virus, was what caused the live virus to be removed from future vaccines. However, it is admitted that FluMist contains the live virus. “It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, and even longer from adults. Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist,” writes Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, one of the most outspoken physicians in the country on the hazards of vaccines and vaccination. FluMist’s own package insert reads as follows, “FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days.” “The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system,” writes Tenpenny, pointing out that if one takes into account a plethora of health conditions that could be classified as contributing to immunodeficiency, as much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be “chemically immunosuppressed.” “An ever greater concern about FluMist is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through “specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells” and then grown in “specific pathogen-free eggs.” That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily “pathogen-free.” The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains,” warns Tenpenny. One of the pharmaceutical companies developing nasal spray vaccines is Baxter International, who were caught earlier this year releasing batches of vaccines from a lab in Austria that were contaminated live bird flu virus, otherwise known as H5N1. The video below outlines further concerns regarding FluMist and the nasal spray vaccine in general. http://dochand.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/doctors-concerned-flumist-vaccine-could-spread-live-h1n1-virus/ "If one were going to MANUFACTURE a pandemic, the *easiest* way to do so would be to introduce live viruses into the nasal passages. Most likely, because the virus in the vaccine is NOT the same as that of the H1N1 flu going around, most likely then to cause recombinants and further reassortants. Also after getting the vaccine with live virus in it, even though the person receiving the vaccine may not get sick right away, that person is capable of “shedding” the virus to others in close proximity for a period of up to 4 weeks. IF ANYONE YOU KNOW GETS THE VACCINE – STAY AWAY FROM THEM. http://labvirus.wordpress.com/ A. True Ott PhD ND with Alexander S. Jones: UNTESTED MedImmune nasal H1N1 vaccine mist contains LIVE VIRUSES and toxic MSG among other undisclosed contents – CALL YOUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND COMPLAIN October 6, 2009 at 10:53 am (Uncategorized) Tags: h1n1 bird flu birdflu swine flu swineflu h5n1 pandemic ott deagle eisenstein cassel vaclib nvic dissent resistance vaccine vaccination toxic adjuvants mf-59 squalene genocide who cdc nih globalists ge Alexander S. Jones on The Story Behind The Story with Dr. A True Ott PhD ND today on republicbroadcasting.org Today Dr. Ott sent out a press release to all the state health workers in his state of Utah, stating that in the company’s own circular the nasal mist contains “not natural” virus “variants” – also that it contains toxic MSG, and that is has NOT been tested on pregnant women among other things. It is apparently also printed in the MedImmune circular itself that the live virus variants MAY cause transmissible infection in others [!!!!!!]. It is clear the media and government want a blind public with no discourse given to debating the safety of these vaccines. The media and government are only allowing a “party line” outbound message to be aired, and no one is allowing anyone to debate the safety of these vaccines. No one is interested in doing the morally right thing – and put their job on the line – to be a spokesperson for the government and health industry to be present in a discussion about safety. The feared and publicized 2nd wave in September never happened, and technically we should be back down to pandemic level 3 – yet it remains at 6. Without the level 6 pandemic declaration, there would have been no way to “fast track” the nasal mist past testing and through FDA approval – without full disclosure. 801-538-6101 or 6348 (Cindy L. Beemis, Public Information Specialist) is the number to the Health Department of Utah – call and ask them “why dont you respond to Dr Ott’s invitation to discuss the H1N1 vaccine safety?” If one were going to MANUFACTURE a pandemic, the *easiest* way to do so would be to introduce live viruses into the nasal passages. Most likely, because the virus in the vaccine is NOT the same as that of the H1N1 flu going around, most likely then to cause recombinants and further reassortants. Also after getting the vaccine with live virus in it, even though the person receiving the vaccine may not get sick right away, that person is capable of “shedding” the virus to others in close proximity for a period of up to 4 weeks. IF ANYONE YOU KNOW GETS THE VACCINE – STAY AWAY FROM THEM. WHY do the manufacturers have legal immunity – if they are so safe? The Glaxo-Smith-Kline Pandemrix™ vaccine has LIVE “bird flu” H5N1 DNA in it. Novartis vaccine: waiting in the wings, probably to be unveiled after the live human guinea-pig test of the nasal mist going on now is complete. POST YOUR COMMENTS NOW TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPT OF PUBLIC HEALTH – by going here: http://www.cdph.ca.gov/_layouts/dhs/sitecomments/default.aspx or CALL the CA Dept of Public Health at (916) 558-1784 EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN SIMILAR LINK – FIND YOURS! http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/states.htm - Maria oleander soup Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:10 PM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Oh Barbara thank you for the offer, you are a sweet heart. But it's ok, i'm one of this people that dont give much attention to things, and since i can make tinctures, oils and other remedies my self i feel good. Again thank you. Hugs Mary - barbara elenniss oleander soup Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:23 AM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Oh! ok, I am in Germany and have co-wokers all over the world...escept Australia:-) I though it you were in a Country where I know somone I could always gets things too you. I think you commented on something being in the states. Although we are not military we do have use of military facilites so shipping from apo to apo cost nothing and also shipping from the states to apo is no more than shipping within the states. Wish I could help. Barbara--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?oleander soup Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:23 PM Hi Barbara. I'm from down under - Australia. Hugs Mary - barbara elenniss oleander soup Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:47 PM Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Mary, What country are you in? Barbara--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) comau> wrote: Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?oleander soupMonday, October 5, 2009, 7:34 PM Hi Melly You are welcome, and thanks for the information where to get the black seed oil, but my funds dont allow me to buy so manny things so o make my own , because i'm so far way from America only the posting cost me $ 28 plus the product. But all is good and thanks again for the info. Hugs Mary - tita_mel oleander soup Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:29 AM Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil? Mary, Thanks for the "recipe" on black seed oil.I just got my order of Black Seed and Oil a few days ago from www.mountainroseHer bs.com. Call them, they don't have it in their webpage or catalogue. They have the good kind too, from Egypt. Use Tony's code to get discount. I don't know what it is though.Mellyoleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Hi Bob.> > Yes Indian stores or Asian stores may have the oil.> > I make my own oil, it may not be as good as the one you buy or maybe it is as good i dont know, but if you want try doing it like i do.> > Black seed oil.> > Buy the the black seeds from Indian or Asian store.> gring 2 cups black seeds in a coffee grader .> Warm up 3 cups olive oil, dont boil the oil just very hot, add the crushed seeds in the oil and when the oil is cool put the lot in a jar with plastic lid, keep the jar in a sunny place for 1 month, shaking the jar periodically, in the and you strain the oil and use. > > DOSE 1 teaspoon after meals 3 times daily> > Good luck Hugs Mary> > > - > rattlesnakebobbob > oleander soup > Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:13 PM> Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?> > > i seem to be having problems finding this product outside of the internet.it was suggested a east indian food store,> stay well> bob> > oleander soup, "Bob Banever" <bbanever@> wrote:> >> > bob,> > > > Pancreatic cancer and immune support.> > > > Bob> > - > > "rattlesnakebobbob" <rattlesnakebobbob@ >> > <oleander soup>> > Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:26 AM> > Re: recommended ways to consumme black seed oil?> > > > > > > > > > what is this black seed oil used for?> > > bob> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 It's kind of like "we said there is going to be a flu pandemic and by gawd we're going to make sure of it" isn't it? oleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Doctors Concerned FluMist Vaccine Could Spread Live H1N1 Virus > > By dochand > Tuesday, October 6, 2009 > > > Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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