Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I would like to ask if anyone has taken the Sutherlandia OPC, we just reviced our first bottle today and wondering if anyone has tried it out yet. If so, can you give us some info as to what to expect from it? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Hi Joynhope,Many of us here take Sutherlandia OPC. Not to worry. The only side effects that you may encounter are loose stools or diarrhea. However, not everyone gets these side effects. If you do, just hold off increasing the dose until those symptoms subside.My best,oleander soup , "joynhope4espie" <joynhope4espie wrote:>> I would like to ask if anyone has taken the Sutherlandia OPC, we just reviced our first bottle today and wondering if anyone has tried it out yet. If so, can you give us some info as to what to expect from it?> thanks> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thousands of people have taken Sutherlandia OPC, tens of thousands when you include those who take it for HIV/AIDS, and likely hundreds of people in this group of over 1500 members. What are you taking it for? With some people, including myself, you will notice few if any side effects. Others sometimes notice a bit of stomach distress or nausea at first, including loose stools and even diarrhea. There can also be slight fever and mild headache in some instances, just as there can often be soe pain at the tumor locations in the event of cancer, but all of those usually pass as your body becomes acclimated while you work your way up to the dosage level that appears most appropriate. In a small minority of instances, the side effects such as diarrhea can be more difficult, but I would not worry needlessly at this point. Maybe this information will provide a bit of a guideline: Suggested Protocol for Sutherlandia OPC from Marc Swanepoel To maximize the effectiveness of the S/OPC I also suggest the protocol below (for cancer, HIV/AIDS, Hep C, Lupus, ALS and neurological problems). The 5 most important items are (a) S/OPC (b) NAC © Curcumin (d) liver cleanse and (e) try to cut out animal proteins. Regards, Marc Swanepoel, PhD Johannesburg Protocol for cancer (1) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly. (2) Cut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar. If you are worried that you won't get enough protein, then take un-denatured whey protein. (3) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you. (4) Go to bed by 10:30 pm (5) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day). (6) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example. (7) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day. (8) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones. (9) Take 200 micrograms Selenium per day with your food. (10) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol /anticancer.htm ) (11) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer). (12) For very advanced cases of anti-fungal infection, take a prescription medicine like Nystatin or Diflucan for 2 weeks. For those who do not want to take prescription medication, take an anti-fungal like Colloidal Silver or olive leaf extract on a daily basis. (13) Take 1 teaspoonful of Black Seed Oil (Nigella Sativa) 3 times per day after meals. (14) Take 2 x 600mg Time Release capsules of N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) with fruit juice three times per day on an empty stomach (to help the body synthesize Glutathione). If wasting (weight loss) is already advanced, these amounts can be doubled. There are reports that high dosages of NAC can lead to the loss of Zinc, Copper and other trace minerals and it may be advisable to take a trace mineral supplement to prevent this possibility. Protocol for HIV/AIDS, Hep C, Lupus, ALS and neurological problems (1) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly. (2) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day). (3) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day. (4) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones. (5) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer). (6) Take 2 x 600mg Time Release capsules of N-Acetyl Cystein (NAC) with fruit juice three times per day on an empty stomach (to help the body synthesize Glutathione). If wasting (weight loss) is already advanced, these amounts can be doubled. (7) Take 600mg Alpha Lipoic acid (ALA) per day with your food (to help increase the amount of Glutathione in the body). There are reports that high dosages of NAC can lead to the loss of Zinc, Copper and other trace minerals and it may be advisable to take a trace mineral supplement to prevent this possibility. (8) For very advanced cases of anti-fungal infection, take a prescription medicine like Nystatin or Diflucan for 2 weeks. For those who do not want to take prescription medication, take an anti-fungal like Colloidal Silver or olive leaf extract on a daily basis. (9) Take 1 teaspoonful of Black Seed Oil (Nigella Sativa) 3 times per day after meals. (10) Take 100 micrograms Selenium per day with your food. (11) Take 1000mg Acetyl L Carnitine (ALC) per day on an empty stomach. (12) Eat fresh vegetables (spinach, carrots, broccoli, brown rice, Brussel sprouts and legumes) every day and try to cut back on all animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, cheese). If you are worried that you won't get enough protein, then take un-denatured whey protein. http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=ET-1745 (IP6) http://www.turmeric-curcumin.com/ (Curcumin) http://www.medstore.biz/prescriptions/diflucan/?fid=1136 (Diflucan) http://www.sweetsunnah.com/cgi-bin/category/BSO (Black Seed Oil) http://www.blackcuminseeds.com/ (Black Seed Oil) Suggested Dosages Sutherlandia OPC (500ml Liquid) Start off by taking 5ml (1 teaspoon) once per day during mealtime for 2 days. Increase dosage to 5 ml twice per day with meals for a further 2 days. Increase dosage to 5ml three times per day with meals for 1 month. If no improvement, increase dosage to 10ml three times per day for 2 months. If still no response, the dosage can be increased to 45ml per day (3 x 15ml) Sutherlandia OPC ( 60 Capsules) Start off by taking 1 capsule with breakfast for 2 days. Increase dosage to 1 capsule twice per day (2 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for a further 2 days. For more serious ailments increase dosage to 2 capsules twice per day (4 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 1 month. If no improvement, increase dosage to 3 capsules twice per day (6 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 2 months. It is also advisable to do the following 5-day liver cleanse. 5-day liver cleanse. It is best to have day 4 on a Saturday or at a time when you are staying at home. Day 1: Drink 1 liter of apple juice during the day. Eat as normal otherwise. Day 2: Drink another liter of apple juice. Eat normally Day 3: Drink a 3rd liter of apple juice. Eat normally Day 4: Do not take any sold food after lunch time 6pm - Take one level tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water 8pm - Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You may find that you already have to take a trip to the toilet before the 8pm Epsom salt. 10pm - Mix one half glass of olive oil and three quarter glass of freshly squeezed grape fruit juice by shaking it very well in a jar with a lid so that it mixes well and immediately get into bed after drinking the mixture. You will probably make more than one trip to the toilet during the night as well as during the next day. Day 5: 6am: Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water 8am: Take one final tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You will find that many gallstones from the liver will be passed and one will notice them in the toilet. They will vary in size from about pin head size to 10mm. Gallstones in the liver are a major cause of many health problems. The above liver cleanse can be repeated every month until one finds that for two months in succession no more gallstones are passed. The liver will then be clean. (You can read about this in much more detail in Andreas Moritz's book ' "The liver and gallbladder miracle cleanse" which you can download from his site at www.ener-chi.com). S/OPC results to be expected The normal situation is the following (For stages I – III. Stage IV can take twice to three times as long) : (a) The rate of growth of the tumor/s slows down (after 3 - 6 weeks) (b) The cancer stabilizes (after 6 - 10 weeks) © The tumor starts to reduce in size (10 - 16 weeks) Here it must be noted that sometimes there is only a slow decrease in size due to the fact that the bulk of the cells inside the tumor may be normal cells. So, even if al the tumor cells die, then the remainder of the normal cells will retain their size. The tumor/s may then become hard (encrusted) and may take a long time, even years to be re-absorbed by the body. (d) Patient in remission (8 - 12 months) All the above should take place PROVIDED one follows the suggested protocol especially the S/OPC, the NAC, the Curcumin and the restriction of animal proteins. Remember, it is the RATE OF GROWTH that will initially slow down even if there is still some growth. You can read case studies of Anvirzel (oleander extract) treatment as well as studies on oleander at Case Reports and Studies on Oleander oleander soup , "joynhope4espie" <joynhope4espie wrote:>> I would like to ask if anyone has taken the Sutherlandia OPC, we just reviced our first bottle today and wondering if anyone has tried it out yet. If so, can you give us some info as to what to expect from it?> thanks> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Mom will take it for Inflamatory Breast Cancer, she was diagnosed in Feb of 2007, and on special diet nutition by Dr. Ben-Joseph her nutitionist, from Feb to Dec then she was given Taxol and Herseptin 19 Dec to April 25. She then was told cancer in remission. Then in April 2009, it came back and nipple inverted again, and now has like open tissue with some type of mucous like tissue. She is under the supplements like before, but we are now taking the Sir Jason Winter teas, and going to take the OPC. Also, looking for what else we can put on breast tissue to help with the tissue, we tried honey, a paste made from cho-wa, honey, vit e, and now using golden salve. Thanks for your info, and GBU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Inflammatory Breast Cancer is an especially tough one, and, as pointed out in previous articles, cancer frequently returns when Taxol is used. Taxol is one of the more effective chemo drugs when it comes to reducing tumors, but it also releases huge numbers of cancer cells that continue to circulate in the body and often results in the return of cancer. In my opinion: Leave no stone unturned and strict adherence to the entire protocol is a must for IBC, including Advanced Colloidal Silver (two ounces per day), colloidal gold, cayenne pepper tincture, inositol/IP6 Max 3 would be the best version, and take 12-16 capsules daily), Jon Barron's Blood Support Tonic, RM-10 Mushroom Defense, etc., and work your way up to the maximum amount of oleander that is tolerable - which for IBC would ideally be up to 10 capsules of SOPC or 8 or more capsules of Rose Laurel OPC Plus daily in divided doses. Iodine (50 mg or more) and vitamin D3 (5000 iu) are both essentials as is curcumin - and despite the advice you may have seen here from other posters to use bioperine (black pepper) or coconut oil/milk to increase the bioavailability of the curcumin, get Life Extension's Super Bio-curcumin. Bioperine and coconut oil/milk increase the absorption of curcumin, but only by a relatively small percentage. While they are better than regular curcumin, Super Bio-curcumin is EIGHT times more bioavailable than regular curcumin. Take 3000 mg per day. Externally, make some very condensed oleander extract (condense until it is a syrupy consistency), preferably mixing it with ozonated olive oil, and mix it with colloidal silver, either some MSM or a few drops of DMSO, a bit of colloidal gold, and some iodine (for external use you can use the topical iodine right off the phamacy shelf). Each day mix with some aloe vera gel taken from the inner filets of fresh aloe vera plants and keep the entire breast area painted by applying several times each day. If there is too much discomfort/irritation, you could alternate mixing the iodine to every second or third application, but iodine is important. If you live in a sunny clime, and have a privacy fence, go topless for half an hour or so around noontime each day. If no privacy fence, maybe make a makeshift cardboard area. Be sure to leave a hole for your head so your mom can stick her tongue out at the neighbors. For the internal iodine, get the magnascent/SSKI combo from: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1486167#i In my opinion and experience it beats Lugols hands down - it is both more powerful and less irritating to the stomach. Even if it gets to the point where it looks like the IBC is again in remission, do NOT stop the regimen, and wait to do any significant decreases down to lesser maintenance dose levels until there has been no detectable cancer for 6 months to a year - and even the, go with a full regimen for a month at a time two or three times a year. IBC is noted for appearing to be in remission and then coming back with a vengeance once someone slacks off on their protocol. Links to most of those products, and the others listed in my suggested anti-cancer protocol, or the companies where you can find them, can be found on my supplements catalog page: /Supplements.htm Any items you choose to order from Utopia Silver, be sure to use the discount code of LR001 for any items not currently on sale to get a 15% discount. All the best and please keep us posted, oleander soup , "joynhope4espie" <joynhope4espie wrote:>> Mom will take it for Inflamatory Breast Cancer, she was diagnosed in Feb of 2007, and on special diet nutition by Dr. Ben-Joseph her nutitionist, from Feb to Dec then she was given Taxol and Herseptin 19 Dec to April 25. She then was told cancer in remission. Then in April 2009, it came back and nipple inverted again, and now has like open tissue with some type of mucous like tissue. She is under the supplements like before, but we are now taking the Sir Jason Winter teas, and going to take the OPC. Also, looking for what else we> can put on breast tissue to help with the tissue, we tried honey, a paste made from cho-wa, honey, vit e, and now using golden salve.> > Thanks for your info, and GBU> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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