Re:Stage 3 Bladder Cancer/Susan

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Dear Susan,Welcome to our family.I would put your husband on the complete Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and address his cancer with every bit of ammunition in that arsenal. You may want to substitute the Sutherlandia OPC mentioned in the protocol with Rose Laurel OPC Plus which is 100% Oleander. This has two advantages. Sutherlandia OPC originates from South Africa and takes approximately ten days to be delivered to the United States, while Rose Laurel OPC Plus is carried by Utopia Silver which is based in Texas and delivery takes just a matter of days. While Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% Oleander and I believe 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (a plant native to South Africa used to heal many conditions), the added Oleander in Rose Laurel OPC Plus should give that extra boost in addressing your husband's cancer. However, keep in mind that both products are very effective against cancer, over 90%. They both originate from the same source, Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.By following the entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, you will be using supplements (the most important of which is Rose Laurel OPC Plus/Sutherlandia OPC) to address the cancer and build his immune system, where the cancer gained entry in the first place.Please know that we are here for you and your husband, and please do not hesitate to ask any questions.My very best,

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and Tony,Thanks so much for the support. It is so good to have you on my side.I would like to put Paul on protocol. I do have a few questions for you.1) Since money happens to be an issue now I am wondering if the Metal Magic will suffice for removing those toxins?2) The only thing that we are currently doing with the Budwig diet is the cottage cheese - flax oil in the morning. Is there more of her program that I should be doing?3) Paul has never done well with fasting, and his weight is looking like it might be starting to drop off. Should he still try to fast? I really don't want him to lose any weight.4) About 2 years ago Paul had a heavy metal toxicity test done and he is really, really, really toxic in many metals. He used to take trace minerals, but quit after that test. What are your suggestions about that?5) He also has severe atopic dermatitis and is allergic to many things. I tried to give him Life Extension Curcumin and he broke out like crazy. Also many herbal products I have tried on him, such as Essiac Tea makes him break out severely. So where do I go with this one?I'm sure I probably have about three brazillion more questions, but this is a start and I know that your time is valuable. Thank you, thank you and thank you.I will go through your site to order the products that I need to get.Susan On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:26 AM, M wrote:Dear Susan,Welcome to our family.I would put your husband on the complete Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and address his cancer with every bit of ammunition in that arsenal. You may want to substitute the Sutherlandia OPC mentioned in the protocol with Rose Laurel OPC Plus which is 100% Oleander. This has two advantages. Sutherlandia OPC originates from South Africa and takes approximately ten days to be delivered to the United States, while Rose Laurel OPC Plus is carried by Utopia Silver which is based in Texas and delivery takes just a matter of days. While Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% Oleander and I believe 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (a plant native to South Africa used to heal many conditions), the added Oleander in Rose Laurel OPC Plus should give that extra boost in addressing your husband's cancer. However, keep in mind that both products are very effective against cancer, over 90%. They both originate from the same source, Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.By following the entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, you will be using supplements (the most important of which is Rose Laurel OPC Plus/Sutherlandia OPC) to address the cancer and build his immune system, where the cancer gained entry in the first place.Please know that we are here for you and your husband, and please do not hesitate to ask any questions.My very best,

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Hello Susan,

 

Trace minerals are super important, especially when trying to remove

heavy metals, since the trace minerals will fill the gaps left by the

heavy metals. The cells of the body communicate via electrical

energy, and the minerals are conductive and allow these messages to

flow freely. I would think the master cleanse lemonade would be very

good to get the metals moving, and chlorella helps to move them out of

the body. I like to use bentonite clay also known as magnetic clay to

help removal.

 

The skin is one of the body's organs, and when it breaks out, it means

toxins are being brought to the surface to be expelled from the body.

So many of these substances most likely are helping his body to detox!

 

The master cleanse might be an option here, as it is said that people

that need to gain weight won't lose any and may gain a few pounds. I

would imagine there would be some superficial loss as the bowels are

emptied out initially, of course.

 

Just my 2 cents,

Daniel

 

On 9/28/09, Susan Staal <susan wrote:

> and Tony,

> Thanks so much for the support. It is so good to have you on my side.

> I would like to put Paul on protocol. I do have a few questions for

> you.

> 1) Since money happens to be an issue now I am wondering if the Metal

> Magic will suffice for removing those toxins?

> 2) The only thing that we are currently doing with the Budwig diet is

> the cottage

> cheese - flax oil in the morning. Is there more of her program that I

> should be doing?

> 3) Paul has never done well with fasting, and his weight is looking

> like it might be starting to drop off. Should he still try to fast?

> I really don't want him to lose any weight.

> 4) About 2 years ago Paul had a heavy metal toxicity test done and he

> is really, really, really toxic in many metals. He used to take trace

> minerals, but quit after that test. What are your suggestions about

> that?

> 5) He also has severe atopic dermatitis and is allergic to many

> things. I tried to give him Life Extension Curcumin and he broke out

> like crazy. Also many herbal products I have tried on him, such as

> Essiac Tea makes him break out severely. So where do I go with this

> one?

> I'm sure I probably have about three brazillion more questions, but

> this is a start and I know that your time is valuable.

> Thank you, thank you and thank you.

> I will go through your site to order the products that I need to get.

> Susan

>

>

>

> On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:26 AM, M wrote:

>

>> Dear Susan,

>>

>> Welcome to our family.

>>

>> I would put your husband on the complete Natural Anti-Cancer

>> Protocol and address his cancer with every bit of ammunition in

>> that arsenal. You may want to substitute the Sutherlandia OPC

>> mentioned in the protocol with Rose Laurel OPC Plus which is 100%

>> Oleander. This has two advantages. Sutherlandia OPC originates

>> from South Africa and takes approximately ten days to be delivered

>> to the United States, while Rose Laurel OPC Plus is carried by

>> Utopia Silver which is based in Texas and delivery takes just a

>> matter of days. While Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% Oleander and I

>> believe 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (a plant native to South Africa

>> used to heal many conditions), the added Oleander in Rose Laurel OPC

>> Plus should give that extra boost in addressing your husband's

>> cancer. However, keep in mind that both products are very effective

>> against cancer, over 90%. They both originate from the same source,

>> Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.

>>

>> By following the entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, you will be

>> using supplements (the most important of which is Rose Laurel OPC

>> Plus/Sutherlandia OPC) to address the cancer and build his immune

>> system, where the cancer gained entry in the first place.

>>

>> Please know that we are here for you and your husband, and please do

>> not hesitate to ask any questions.

>>

>> My very best,

>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My favorite metal detox product is the chlorella/cilantro product enhanced by the Jon Barron process, Metal Magic.

I like bentonite clay too, and believe that coconut oil and apple pectin can also help.

Trace minerals are indeed essential nutrients, and almost every single one of us are deficient in several of them, thanks to poor diets and mineral depleted soils. In many instances, serious conditions have been rectified with trace mineral supplementation alone. Just make sure that your trace minerals are plant derived such as the ones from the Utah deposits or from sea plants.

I take 75 Plant Based Minerals (2 capsules) every day. Some of the better all around whole food derived nutritional products, such as intraMAX and Dr. Mercola's Whole Food Multivitamin Plus already contain the vital trace minerals along with hundreds of other essential nutrients.

All the best,

oleander soup , daniel martin <danielnv.martin wrote:>> Hello Susan,> > Trace minerals are super important, especially when trying to remove> heavy metals, since the trace minerals will fill the gaps left by the> heavy metals. The cells of the body communicate via electrical> energy, and the minerals are conductive and allow these messages to> flow freely. I would think the master cleanse lemonade would be very> good to get the metals moving, and chlorella helps to move them out of> the body. I like to use bentonite clay also known as magnetic clay to> help removal.> > The skin is one of the body's organs, and when it breaks out, it means> toxins are being brought to the surface to be expelled from the body.> So many of these substances most likely are helping his body to detox!> > The master cleanse might be an option here, as it is said that people> that need to gain weight won't lose any and may gain a few pounds. I> would imagine there would be some superficial loss as the bowels are> emptied out initially, of course.> > Just my 2 cents,> Daniel> > On 9/28/09, Susan Staal susan wrote:> > and Tony,> > Thanks so much for the support. It is so good to have you on my side.> > I would like to put Paul on protocol. I do have a few questions for> > you.> > 1) Since money happens to be an issue now I am wondering if the Metal> > Magic will suffice for removing those toxins?> > 2) The only thing that we are currently doing with the Budwig diet is> > the cottage> > cheese - flax oil in the morning. Is there more of her program that I> > should be doing?> > 3) Paul has never done well with fasting, and his weight is looking> > like it might be starting to drop off. Should he still try to fast?> > I really don't want him to lose any weight.> > 4) About 2 years ago Paul had a heavy metal toxicity test done and he> > is really, really, really toxic in many metals. He used to take trace> > minerals, but quit after that test. What are your suggestions about> > that?> > 5) He also has severe atopic dermatitis and is allergic to many> > things. I tried to give him Life Extension Curcumin and he broke out> > like crazy. Also many herbal products I have tried on him, such as> > Essiac Tea makes him break out severely. So where do I go with this> > one?> > I'm sure I probably have about three brazillion more questions, but> > this is a start and I know that your time is valuable.> > Thank you, thank you and thank you.> > I will go through your site to order the products that I need to get.> > Susan> >> >> >> > On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:26 AM, M wrote:> >> >> Dear Susan,> >>> >> Welcome to our family.> >>> >> I would put your husband on the complete Natural Anti-Cancer> >> Protocol and address his cancer with every bit of ammunition in> >> that arsenal. You may want to substitute the Sutherlandia OPC> >> mentioned in the protocol with Rose Laurel OPC Plus which is 100%> >> Oleander. This has two advantages. Sutherlandia OPC originates> >> from South Africa and takes approximately ten days to be delivered> >> to the United States, while Rose Laurel OPC Plus is carried by> >> Utopia Silver which is based in Texas and delivery takes just a> >> matter of days. While Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% Oleander and I> >> believe 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (a plant native to South Africa> >> used to heal many conditions), the added Oleander in Rose Laurel OPC> >> Plus should give that extra boost in addressing your husband's> >> cancer. However, keep in mind that both products are very effective> >> against cancer, over 90%. They both originate from the same source,> >> Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.> >>> >> By following the entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, you will be> >> using supplements (the most important of which is Rose Laurel OPC> >> Plus/Sutherlandia OPC) to address the cancer and build his immune> >> system, where the cancer gained entry in the first place.> >>> >> Please know that we are here for you and your husband, and please do> >> not hesitate to ask any questions.> >>> >> My very best,> >> > >>> >>> >> >>

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OK, thanks for the info, guys, Ill get him back on the trace mins and Metal Magic and oleander and as much of the protocol that I can. A few weeks ago I bought the book The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse so I'm already on board with that one. Do you think it should be done before the master cleanse?And has anyone known of people using cessium chloride along with oleander?Many Thanks,Susan'On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:01 PM,wrote:My favorite metal detox product is the chlorella/cilantro product enhanced by the Jon Barron process, Metal Magic.I like bentonite clay too, and believe that coconut oil and apple pectin can also help.Trace minerals are indeed essential nutrients, and almost every single one of us are deficient in several of them, thanks to poor diets and mineral depleted soils. In many instances, serious conditions have been rectified with trace mineral supplementation alone. Just make sure that your trace minerals are plant derived such as the ones from the Utah deposits or from sea plants.I take 75 Plant Based Minerals (2 capsules) every day. Some of the better all around whole food derived nutritional products, such as intraMAX and Dr. Mercola's Whole Food Multivitamin Plus already contain the vital trace minerals along with hundreds of other essential nutrients.All the best,Tony oleander soup , daniel martin <danielnv.martin wrote:>> Hello Susan,> > Trace minerals are super important, especially when trying to remove> heavy metals, since the trace minerals will fill the gaps left by the> heavy metals. The cells of the body communicate via electrical> energy, and the minerals are conductive and allow these messages to> flow freely. I would think the master cleanse lemonade would be very> good to get the metals moving, and chlorella helps to move them out of> the body. I like to use bentonite clay also known as magnetic clay to> help removal.> > The skin is one of the body's organs, and when it breaks out, it means> toxins are being brought to the surface to be expelled from the body.> So many of these substances most likely are helping his body to detox!> > The master cleanse might be an option here, as it is said that people> that need to gain weight won't lose any and may gain a few pounds. I> would imagine there would be some superficial loss as the bowels are> emptied out initially, of course.> > Just my 2 cents,> Daniel> > On 9/28/09, Susan Staal susan wrote:> > and Tony,> > Thanks so much for the support. It is so good to have you on my side.> > I would like to put Paul on protocol. I do have a few questions for> > you.> > 1) Since money happens to be an issue now I am wondering if the Metal> > Magic will suffice for removing those toxins?> > 2) The only thing that we are currently doing with the Budwig diet is> > the cottage> > cheese - flax oil in the morning. Is there more of her program that I> > should be doing?> > 3) Paul has never done well with fasting, and his weight is looking> > like it might be starting to drop off. Should he still try to fast?> > I really don't want him to lose any weight.> > 4) About 2 years ago Paul had a heavy metal toxicity test done and he> > is really, really, really toxic in many metals. He used to take trace> > minerals, but quit after that test. What are your suggestions about> > that?> > 5) He also has severe atopic dermatitis and is allergic to many> > things. I tried to give him Life Extension Curcumin and he broke out> > like crazy. Also many herbal products I have tried on him, such as> > Essiac Tea makes him break out severely. So where do I go with this> > one?> > I'm sure I probably have about three brazillion more questions, but> > this is a start and I know that your time is valuable.> > Thank you, thank you and thank you.> > I will go through your site to order the products that I need to get.> > Susan> >> >> >> > On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:26 AM, M wrote:> >> >> Dear Susan,> >>> >> Welcome to our family.> >>> >> I would put your husband on the complete Natural Anti-Cancer> >> Protocol and address his cancer with every bit of ammunition in> >> that arsenal. You may want to substitute the Sutherlandia OPC> >> mentioned in the protocol with Rose Laurel OPC Plus which is 100%> >> Oleander. This has two advantages. Sutherlandia OPC originates> >> from South Africa and takes approximately ten days to be delivered> >> to the United States, while Rose Laurel OPC Plus is carried by> >> Utopia Silver which is based in Texas and delivery takes just a> >> matter of days. While Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% Oleander and I> >> believe 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (a plant native to South Africa> >> used to heal many conditions), the added Oleander in Rose Laurel OPC> >> Plus should give that extra boost in addressing your husband's> >> cancer. However, keep in mind that both products are very effective> >> against cancer, over 90%. They both originate from the same source,> >> Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.> >>> >> By following the entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, you will be> >> using supplements (the most important of which is Rose Laurel OPC> >> Plus/Sutherlandia OPC) to address the cancer and build his immune> >> system, where the cancer gained entry in the first place.> >>> >> Please know that we are here for you and your husband, and please do> >> not hesitate to ask any questions.> >>> >> My very best,> >> > >>> >>> >> >>

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I used Cesium Chloride last year along with Oleander. You need to be careful though because it is possible you will detox in a massive way. I made sure my elimination pathways were supported by colonics, coffee enemas and FIR saunas etc. However it still was a little harsh on my adrenals. On the other hand, I am alive, my scans are coming back negative for any new tumors and I am now able to focus on rebuilding my body instead of just surviving cancer.Eva.

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Eva, Wow! Great for you!What kind of cancer did you have and did you use DMSO with your cesium chloride?Also, did you have anyone counseling you about doses, etc?Thank you so much for replying.Blessings, SusanOn Sep 29, 2009, at 1:03 AM, Eva Klein-Otis wrote:I used Cesium Chloride last year along with Oleander. You need to be careful though because it is possible you will detox in a massive way. I made sure my elimination pathways were supported by colonics, coffee enemas and FIR saunas etc. However it still was a little harsh on my adrenals. On the other hand, I am alive, my scans are coming back negative for any new tumors and I am now able to focus on rebuilding my body instead of just surviving cancer.Eva.

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That is just wonderful news. Eva, do you mind going into your story in more details? It is just so wonderful to hear from someone who is not just surving from it. Your story will help so many in here and give a lot of us hopes. I sure hope you can share more about your story. Thank you so much.

 

 

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GIVE WHAT YOU WANT!--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otis wrote:

Eva Klein-Otis <eklein.otisRe: Re:Stage 3 Bladder Cancer/Susanoleander soup Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:03 PM

 

 

 

 

I used Cesium Chloride last year along with Oleander. You need to be careful though because it is possible you will detox in a massive way. I made sure my elimination pathways were supported by colonics, coffee enemas and FIR saunas etc. However it still was a little harsh on my adrenals. On the other hand, I am alive, my scans are coming back negative for any new tumors and I am now able to focus on rebuilding my body instead of just surviving cancer.Eva.

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Hi Susan,I had a retroperitoneal Liposarcoma (connective tissue cancer) removed last September. I decided to do Cesium because my surgeon didn't remove the "margin" which included my spleen, left kidney, part of my colon and pancreas. Thank God I still have those organs. I had to have surgery because no alternative protocol was going to get rid of a 6lb mass!!I bought Cesium from Essense of Life and I found it to be a pretty one-sided conversation initially. I am an RN however, so maybe I was a little more prepared than most. If I had to take Cesium again I would take it from Rainbowminerals and just do my own thing. I initially took the DMSO, but being a redhead I have really sensitive skin and I knew I couldn't face 6 months of hell on my skin every day. I started to take Cesium internally and mixed it

with pomegranate juice and it was fine for me. I tried MSM cream, but that didn't make topical DMSO any easier. I also tried to ingest DMSO and that lasted about 2 days!! Too many horror stories on the internet and I wasn't keeping it down. LOLI did go get my blood taken every 3 weeks and then adjusted my potassium levels according to the amount of hand cramping I had. I ate as much potassium rich food as I could. When I started to use 50-75mg of Lugols a day I started feeling much better. I was doing Oleander, too. However I knew Oleander takes time to work and I wasn't letting my window of opportunity go, so I did Cesium in conjunction with as much of tony's protocol I could afford. Now I do pretty much all of it.Hope this helps,Blessings to you, Eva.

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Dear Eva,Since my husband is so very allergic to so many things with his sever atopic dermatitis, I'm thinking after your report that Cesium is not going to work topically for him.Any suggestions on getting the right protocol for internal doses of it? Did you find one particular source for info on all this?I have to tell you how much I admire you for going through all this and surviving! Your messages give me strength. Thank you for that. I will keep you in my daily meditations of well-being.SusanOn Sep 29, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Eva Klein-Otis wrote:Hi Susan,I had a retroperitoneal Liposarcoma (connective tissue cancer) removed last September. I decided to do Cesium because my surgeon didn't remove the "margin" which included my spleen, left kidney, part of my colon and pancreas. Thank God I still have those organs. I had to have surgery because no alternative protocol was going to get rid of a 6lb mass!!I bought Cesium from Essense of Life and I found it to be a pretty one-sided conversation initially. I am an RN however, so maybe I was a little more prepared than most. If I had to take Cesium again I would take it from Rainbowminerals and just do my own thing. I initially took the DMSO, but being a redhead I have really sensitive skin and I knew I couldn't face 6 months of hell on my skin every day. I started to take Cesium internally and mixed it with pomegranate juice and it was fine for me. I tried MSM cream, but that didn't make topical DMSO any easier. I also tried to ingest DMSO and that lasted about 2 days!! Too many horror stories on the internet and I wasn't keeping it down. LOLI did go get my blood taken every 3 weeks and then adjusted my potassium levels according to the amount of hand cramping I had. I ate as much potassium rich food as I could. When I started to use 50-75mg of Lugols a day I started feeling much better. I was doing Oleander, too. However I knew Oleander takes time to work and I wasn't letting my window of opportunity go, so I did Cesium in conjunction with as much of tony's protocol I could afford. Now I do pretty much all of it.Hope this helps,Blessings to you, Eva.

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Dear Susan,Thanks so much for your kind words. Yes, I believe we are a good little family here and it is great to be able to receive information and to give back when we can. I also value the advice and support here so much!!I totally understand your hesitancy re DMSO and Cesium on the skin. Also the Aloe Vera recommended simply didn't help much! I will send you an attachment "offline" re what I was sent from Essense of Life. You will find more info on that website, too. Also the Wolfe Clinic does the Cesium protocol. 12 months ago there was a 4 month wait to talk to the MD who does the protocol. However I believe he now has another MD working with him, so you may find you can have good advice much quicker.Apparently according to Larry from Essense of Life there is no need to dose Cesium

initially. You just keep taking 2TBS until you hit your "Cesium Limit" and according to Larry and other people I have read messages from you simply reduce the amount you are taking for a while, but you keep taking it. I don't know what you reduce it to though. I never hit a limit. I just stopped after 4 months after I was taking 6 capsules of Oleander and I was sure it was working. Higher dosages of Cesium were used many years ago, but I think it wasn't any more effective and I believe what is used now is simply a purer ionic liquid. According to Larry and another member here Cesium doesn't work as well the second time around. I am thinking this would buy you time until you hit the maximum dose your husband could handle re Oleander.I know you said you were on a tight budget and I was, too. Hence why I only did 4 months of Cesium. Rainbowminerals are a cheaper option. I haven't dealt

with them, though Bill Henderson recommended them a while back. Please keep in mind though that you need to keep the elimination pathways open. Your husband already seems to have issues with that because he has dermatitis. Please also remember that most of your immune system resides in your colon, so make looking after it a priority. A good place to start for that is reading Donna Gates' Body Ecology book. It explores fermented foods, Kefir etc and many things that will literally help your husband's elimination pathways, support his liver and assist him in his recovery. I give my husband Kefir made from soy milk (it ferments the soy) alternating with raw goats milk. And a few TBS of fermented/cultured veges a day. He hates it, but keeps taking it because he says it makes a huge difference re his bowel habits.Blessings, Eva.