Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 wow, tony. better than sutherlandia? i thought that stuff was fantastic. would you please place a blurb on my forum as well? people should know about this.a few more pennies of thought, it occurs to me that the best way to avoid cancer is to treat for it regularly as a prophylaxis. we all need iodine and selenium. do a course of oleander once or twice a year, maybe dose up with silver in the fall, do a fast once in a while, keep the liver flushed... all these things will support immune function and keep us feeling healthier overall anyway. i pray for the day when none of us have to hear the C word used about us ever again.good health to alltrapperoleander soup From: Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:28:42 +0000 New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silver The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 This is great! Questions: Is Marc’s recommended dosage protocol still the same? Utopia does not give an ingredient listing. What are the ingredients? Thanks! Dr.L oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:29 PM oleander soup New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silver The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Done - now you post your information about the Magnascent special here and on my CZ foru please! Sutherlandia OPC is fantastic. This new product, made by the same folks, is even more potent and should be especially useful against advanced and more aggressive cancers. If someone is already having the desired success I see no reason to switch, other than perhaps faster shipping considerations, but one thing we have noticed is that some of the most difficult cancers respond better to a dose that is higher than what had previously been recommended (and some folks who are able to tolerate it are now taking up to 5 capsules of the S/OPC twice a day for such cancers). I agree with you completely that the best way to beat cancer is to avoid it in the first place and your suggestions are very good ones. I would say that plenty of Vitamin D3 is an essential too. All the best, oleander soup , Steve Wilson <trapperkcmo wrote:>> > wow, tony. better than sutherlandia? i thought that stuff was fantastic. would you please place a blurb on my forum as well? people should know about this.> > a few more pennies of thought, it occurs to me that the best way to avoid cancer is to treat for it regularly as a prophylaxis. we all need iodine and selenium. do a course of oleander once or twice a year, maybe dose up with silver in the fall, do a fast once in a while, keep the liver flushed... all these things will support immune function and keep us feeling healthier overall anyway. i pray for the day when none of us have to hear the C word used about us ever again.> > good health to all> trapper> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I am sure that they will be adding to the listing soon. Right now, it is not even listed on the main site as they have only just added it first to the shopping cart section. Here is a link to a graphic of the entire label: /RL-OPC.jpg Marc can probably best answer your question, since it is he who devised it and the company that makes his S/OPC which makes it, but I believe the answer will be along the lines of "the same as S/OPC except with no Sutherlandia Frutescens and 33% more oleander". All the best, oleander soup , "Dr. Loretta Lanphier" <drlanphier wrote:>> This is great!> > Questions:> > Is Marc's recommended dosage protocol still the same?> > Utopia does not give an ingredient listing. What are the ingredients?> > Thanks!> > Dr.L> > > oleander soup oleander soup On> Behalf Of > Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:29 PM> oleander soup > New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia> Silver> > > > > > The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver!> > <http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & prod> ucts_id=273>> http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & produ> cts_id=273> I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia> OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule> higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks.> HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15%> discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping.> I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their> advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders> that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in> products ordered).> Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers> as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced> cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy> lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I> think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it> has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands> and thousands of users.> For more information:> </anticancer.htm> A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol> </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> Beating Hepatitis Naturally -> A Complete Protocol> </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> Herbal Supplement for> HIV/AIDS is Succ </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> essful in> Clinical Trial> Tony> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does anyone know if the dosage is different? Cheryl oleander soup , " " wrote: > > > The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! > > http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & p\ > roducts_id=273 > <http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & \ > products_id=273> > > I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the > Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 > cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of > a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of > LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, > including shipping. > > I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of > their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all > orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 > in products ordered). > > Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same > makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer > (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined > with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those > conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best > choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success > in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. > > For more information: > > A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol </anticancer.htm> > > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> Herbal Supplement for > HIV/AIDS is Succ </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> essful in > Clinical Trial </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Tony, Is this product considered "better" than the OPC product? Is there any reason to order Sutherlandia OPC from Marc anymore? Steve--- On Wed, 9/16/09, wrote: New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silveroleander soup Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 3:28 PM The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart. utopiasilver. com/index. php?main_ page=product_ info & cPath=14 & products_id= 273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Doseage recommendations are the same - though it might take a bit less for some situations and possibly might be a bit harder to tolerate for some at the very highest doseage levels of 3-5 capsules twice a day and/or take a bit longer to work up to those amounts. oleander soup , "Cheryl" <cheryl.s.campbell wrote:>> Does anyone know if the dosage is different?> Cheryl> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I just ordered 6 bottles of Sutherlandia OPC and received them 2 days ago. I have stage IV cancer. Do you recommend that I order the new product instead? Also, what is the dosage on the new product?Siri Andrews, Ph.D., BCBA-DDirector of Educational Services and TrainingClinical Psychologist PSY 21230Board Certified Behavior Analyst- Doctoral 1-08-4187 This electronic message transmission contains information from Dr. Siri Andrews, that may be confidential. The information is intended solely for the recipient and use by any other party is not authorized. If youreceived this electronic transmission in error, please notify me bytelephone (858) 444-8823 ext 1212. Thank you. oleander soup From: Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:28:42 +0000 New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silver The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 The product you offered is just fine. Awesome in fact. You got the exact same oleander extract (just 33% less per capsule) plus 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens. And you got a free bottle by ordering the 5 bottles get 1 free deal - which is not available from Utopia Silver, though they do have the discount code for us and the incentives of free bottles of colloidal silver for each $100 spent. I suggest that you work your way up to the maximum suggested doseage of 3 capsules twice per day (or two capsules three times per day) and, if you have not gotten quite the response you want, try increasing to 5 capsules twice a day. On subsequent orders, you may want to opt for the new product - or, when you supply gets low you may want to order some of the new product and divide the doses up where you are taking both. All the best, oleander soup , Siri Andrews <siricspp wrote:>> > I just ordered 6 bottles of Sutherlandia OPC and received them 2 days ago. I have stage IV cancer. Do you recommend that I order the new product instead? Also, what is the dosage on the new product?> > Siri Andrews, Ph.D., BCBA-D> Director of Educational Services and Training> Clinical Psychologist PSY 21230> Board Certified Behavior Analyst- Doctoral 1-08-4187> > > > > This electronic message transmission contains information from Dr. Siri Andrews, that may be confidential. The information is intended solely for the recipient and use by any other party is not authorized. If you> received this electronic transmission in error, please notify me by> telephone (858) 444-8823 ext 1212. Thank you.> > > > > > > > > oleander soup > Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:28:42 +0000> New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silver> > > > > > > The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver!> > http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273> > I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping.> > I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered).> > Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users.> > For more information:> > A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol> > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol> > Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial> > Tony> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Hi Everybody, from my experience of the last 7 years,I have no doubt that the effectiveness of the oleander is dosage dependent. I therefore suggest that the dosage for the new higher potency formulation remains the same as for the Sutherlandia OPC. The new capsules that are available at Utopia Silver and, at this stage, on my site only in the 1000 capsule bags, contain only oleander powder and NO Sutherlandia Frutescens. Marc Swanepoel ---- Original Message ----- Cheryl oleander soup Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:13 PM Re: New 100% oleander capsules now available at Utopia Silver Does anyone know if the dosage is different?Cheryloleander soup , "" wrote:>> > The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver!> > http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & p\> roducts_id=273> <http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & \> products_id=273>> > I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the> Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8> cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of> a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of> LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less,> including shipping.> > I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of> their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all> orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100> in products ordered).> > Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same> makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer> (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined> with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those> conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best> choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success> in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users.> > For more information:> > A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol </anticancer.htm>> > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol> </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm>> > </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> Herbal Supplement for> HIV/AIDS is Succ </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm> essful in> Clinical Trial </HIV_Clinical_Trial.htm>> > Tony> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 What does the bottle say for dosing Tony? I tried to look at a bigger picture but it doesn' t show. Just curious!!!! Im so excited Reid will be too :-) rhonda 2009/9/16 The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 DUH, I just read Marcs reply, but the issue im having is, Reid uses the liquid so how would I equate that into the pill form? I dont think he has been getting enough since school started, he is only getting 10 ml per day bcause he can't take it at school. I personally think he needs to be on a higher dose as he has brain cancer that tends to be a more agressive type of tumor. With this new formulation im hoping he gets more of the oleander than he has been. We have to mix the liquid with quite a bit of juice just for him to get it down, and that is only the 5 ml 2x a day. If i were to ive him 15 ml a day he would be juiced logged! :-) anywho ill appreciate any advice! Thanks rhonda 2009/9/17 rhonda ebrom <dipghater What does the bottle say for dosing Tony? I tried to look at a bigger picture but it doesn' t show. Just curious!!!! Im so excited Reid will be too :-) rhonda 2009/9/16 The new 100% oleander capsules are now available at Utopia Silver! http://cart.utopiasilver.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=14 & products_id=273 I note that the new product has 33% more oleander than does the Sutherlandia OPC and the price ($75 per 90 capsule bottle) is about 8 cents per capsule higher. Plus you do pay a very small shipping fee of a couple of bucks. HOWEVER, when you use the group discount code of LR001 you get a 15% discount, which makes the price actually a bit less, including shipping. I will also advise that Utopia Silver is giving away a free bottle of their advanced Colloidal Silver (charging only for shipping) now for all orders that total $100 or more (actually, it is one free bottle per $100 in products ordered). Personally I believe that the new product, which is made by the same makers as the Sutherlandia OPC, is the best choice for cancer (especially advanced cancer) and likely Hep-C as well (when combined with an overall healthy lifestyle and protocol designed for those conditions. On the other hand, I think the Sutherlandia OPC is the best choice for HIV/AIDS and note that it has enjoyed virtually 100% success in reversing HIV symptoms in thousands and thousands of users. For more information: A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol Herbal Supplement for HIV/AIDS is Successful in Clinical Trial Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel - PhD " <marcswan wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > from my experience of the last 7 years,I have no doubt that the effectiveness of the oleander is dosage dependent. I therefore suggest that the dosage for the new higher potency formulation remains the same as for the Sutherlandia OPC. The new capsules that are available at Utopia Silver and, at this stage, on my site only in the 1000 capsule bags, contain only oleander powder and NO Sutherlandia Frutescens. just wondering if this product would kill off candida? and what dosage would be correct. bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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