Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i see no one has replied,unless i missed it - infomcf oleander soup Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:50 PM Success Stories Hi Everyone,I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful.It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time.Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them.So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Hi Everyone, I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful. It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time. Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them. So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hi infomcf. This gives me great pain to remember what happen with my husband, but if it help you in any way i will go though it again. Without going into great details here's my story , the doctors give my husband 3 moths life with or without chemo, what excually they said was, even if he had the biopsy he my die on the table, so we said thanks but no thanks and we went the natural way . For 10 months we where doing better then find on cancer protocol, when one day he stumble and fell down and i called the Ambulance, well wondering friend in the hospital the give him an injection for seizure because they said thats what cause his fall, and he died from that. If we where allow to continue with our program my husband will be here today, and this will have been a success story. the and) And the next time you ask questions about nature dear friend, why dont you ask the same question about doctors and their way of treating people with poisons? good luck with whatever you are looking for. Regards Mary - infomcf oleander soup Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:50 AM Success Stories Hi Everyone,I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful.It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time.Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them.So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 God Bless You Maria! Maria <mary1konoleander soup Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:20:09 PMRe: Success Stories Hi infomcf. This gives me great pain to remember what happen with my husband, but if it help you in any way i will go though it again. Without going into great details here's my story , the doctors give my husband 3 moths life with or without chemo, what excually they said was, even if he had the biopsy he my die on the table, so we said thanks but no thanks and we went the natural way . For 10 months we where doing better then find on cancer protocol, when one day he stumble and fell down and i called the Ambulance, well wondering friend in the hospital the give him an injection for seizure because they said thats what cause his fall, and he died from that. If we where allow to continue with our program my husband will be here today, and this will have been a success story. the and) And the next time you ask questions about nature dear friend, why dont you ask the same question about doctors and their way of treating people with poisons? good luck with whatever you are looking for. Regards Mary - infomcf oleander soup Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:50 AM Success Stories Hi Everyone,I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful.It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time.Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them.So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 You missed this one: http://health.oleander soup/message/17110 And, should you take the time to go back through the thousands of messages here you will find a great number of success stories. In fact, given the fact that we now have about 1400 or so members and have been around over 5 years now, what is rather remarkable is how hard it is to find stories of lack of success. I hope someday to find the time to compile a list of all the success stories I can find, and wish that I had already done so. Even then, I think most of the success stories are ones that have never been posted, as people have beaten their cancers and then gone on with their lives and not wished to revisit the fear and tribulations of fighting cancer. That is certainly the case of my 86 year old uncle, who mainstream medicine failed and who beat cancer with oleander and other helpful healthy measures. Then you also have the hundreds and hundreds of people who have used oleander to beat and survive cancer in South Africa using Sutherlandia OPC and Marc Swanepoel's suggested protocol. Virtually none of them are members of this group, but virtually every one who had more than a couple of weeks left to live and whose major organs had not been damaged beyond repair by chemo and/or radiation are still alive. That is well over 90% and from every indication I get, those who use oleander in one form or another and follow much of the suggested protocol here enjoy similar success rates. Now, as far as I am concerned my definition of success is that cancer is eliminated and never returns. Even if I were able somehow to track every person who uses oleander and follows some or all of the suggested protocol, determining that success rate would take a great many years. I am, however, confidant that, while neither oleander nor anything else is a magic bullet that works for all people and all cancers all of the time, there is nothing else I have found that is superior - and certainly not the options offered by mainstream medicine in most instances. To see some success reports, I suggest you take a look at the Oleander Support forum on CureZone as well as the other Cancer support forums and my own "Ask Tony Isaacs" forum. There are quite a number posted. You can also see some case reports on the patented medicine version of oleander at: /Oleander_Case_Reports_Studies.htm In over 40 years with thousands of patients, Dr. Ozel has had a 70 plus percent success rate against a wide range of cancers - all the more remarkable because he is a licensed doctor who is only able to use oleander as a CAM to mainstream treatments or else when those treatments have failed. All the best, oleander soup , "batman" <0823749937 wrote:>> i see no one has replied,unless i missed it> - > infomcf > oleander soup > Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:50 PM> Success Stories> > > Hi Everyone,> > I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful.> > It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time.> > Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them.> > So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Thank you Elizabeth, i needed that. Hugs Mary - Elizabeth Deedrick oleander soup Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:07 AM Re: Success Stories God Bless You Maria! Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>oleander soup Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:20:09 PMRe: Success Stories Hi infomcf. This gives me great pain to remember what happen with my husband, but if it help you in any way i will go though it again. Without going into great details here's my story , the doctors give my husband 3 moths life with or without chemo, what excually they said was, even if he had the biopsy he my die on the table, so we said thanks but no thanks and we went the natural way . For 10 months we where doing better then find on cancer protocol, when one day he stumble and fell down and i called the Ambulance, well wondering friend in the hospital the give him an injection for seizure because they said thats what cause his fall, and he died from that. If we where allow to continue with our program my husband will be here today, and this will have been a success story. the and) And the next time you ask questions about nature dear friend, why dont you ask the same question about doctors and their way of treating people with poisons? good luck with whatever you are looking for. Regards Mary - infomcf oleander soup Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:50 AM Success Stories Hi Everyone,I read everyday about people asking questions about the protocol or oleander but I would really like to hear from people who have used the protol and been successful.It is ok to say not to go for chemo or radiation but when time is runnning out it is very difficult to say no to them when they help at that particular time.Therefore, it would help a great deal to stay on the alternative path if other people can say that it did actually work for them.So, I look forward to hearing all your success stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hi infomcf,It is great to see you are delving into alternative health. First of all, I am assuming you are inquiring due to cancer or some other supposed "incurable". Your email is vague on that point. I am a one year Liposarcoma survivor - I am alive and feeling well. I have dodged the extra surgery my wonderful doctor told me he was sure I needed to have. My CT scans are coming back clear. However I have had to change pretty much everything I used to love doing in my life - excessive alcohol and sugar and simple carbs to name just a few. Getting rid of amalgam and cleaning up my emotional life is now also part of the deal. I just joined another forum so I can absorb all the info shared about Iodine and bromide detox. It is a journey - no magic bullets here! I need to get ionizing radiation in the way of CT scans every 6 months and rely on doing regular Navarro Urine tests along the way. I am here, better than before and therefore by my definition that is success. I think Tony's Anti-cancer protocol is fantastic! However I will be doing this sort of thing for the rest of my life. I keep seeing people wanting to be reassured by survivors that this protocol works. And I understand that. I spend hours on the Internet reading, sharing, learning. There are no magic bullets though. Once you are in remission you make the decision to go back to what you used to do, or remain on what is working to keep you "cancer free". I had to learn that ultimately the buck stops with me. My choices got me here, and my choices will take me to my grave. Ultimately, these forums are here for us to inform ourselves and then do what we believe is best. Preferably under the guidance with a Naturopath or another health professional. If you feel you need to do chemo and it is something like testicular cancer that responds - great. However just because my surgeon removed my 3kg tumor last year did not mean I was cancer free. I was tumor free, but the mechanisms that created my tumor all still existed and I have to work daily to ensure it doesn't happen again. I think the first place you may want to look is CancerTutor.com. Read about the many protocols. Read Bill Henderson's book and the one from Ty Bollinger. Go to Tony's website. This will give you a sound platform off of which to operate from. Whilst alternative protocols work - there are literally 100's of cures - every body responds differently. Support your immune system, do the Anti-cancer Protcol and that right there already gives you a much greater advantage over any one who simply goes to hospital and does whatever the doctor says.Hope that helps. Blessings, Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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