Support therapy only produced 50% tumor reduction in 2 weeks

August 7, 2009

hi paul

can you use protocel if you taking warfrin?

regards

bobby

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Paul Winter

oleander soup

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM

Re: Support therapy only produced 50% tumor reduction in 2 weeks

Hi Keith,Thanks for the report, I hope to see more positive results in the coming weeks. What was the pH therapy that was used? My work with Protocel and Cantron is starting to suggest the pH is even more critical than I originally realized.You wrote "this stuff definitely works." I would like to point out that this is working for this particular case. Ten years of research and writing about alternative cancer treatments have proven to me that what works for one person often does not work for another. The most important thing to start with is an examination of your treatment selection method and adjusting it to the unique aspects of alternative cancer treatments. The only information on that subject I know of can be found near the top of http://alternativecancer.us/I would like to point out the that Griffin reported in his "World Without Cancer" book that the most effective method of Laetrile (B17) treatment has been 6 grams, intravenous once a day, usually given for three weeks. Laetrile can also be taken orally, however some bacteria in a person's intestines can cause small amounts of cyanide to be released. For this reason, it is usually suggested that oral doses be limited to 3 grams per day. The average apricot seed grown in the United States contains approximately four or five milligrams of B17. So it seems that you are administrating almost a homeopathic dose. Nothing wrong with that, but I wonder if a truly homeopathic dose would be more effective. A homeopathic dose is a dose where there isn't any chemical form of the medicine in the substance being taken, only the energy signature. You can read more on B17 at http://alternativecancer.us/laetrile.h tm where there is a Table of Contents and concise writing.Paul Winteroleander soup , "keith0d0nnell" <keithodonnell wrote:>> My friend was diagnosed with Hodgkins 3 weeks ago. After 1 week of scrambling, we got him on a few support therapies. Oleander supplements have not yet arrived. > > In the 2 weeks my friend was on the following: > o ph therapy - taking ph and adusting> o B17 - eating 25 to 30 apricot pits/day > o switching to a vegetable diet> o Supplementation of each meal with Pancreatin and Bromelain 2040GDU. (enzyme therapy). > o Germanium supplementation. 200mg organicly bound germanium/day. Note: It would appear that at least locally Germanium is devoid in the diet in our area of the country. > > I wanted to make sure the group had some good news. Because this stuff definitely works.>

August 11, 2009

My friend was diagnosed with Hodgkins 3 weeks ago. After 1 week of scrambling,

we got him on a few support therapies. Oleander supplements have not yet

arrived.

In the 2 weeks my friend was on the following:

o ph therapy - taking ph and adusting

o B17 - eating 25 to 30 apricot pits/day

o switching to a vegetable diet

o Supplementation of each meal with Pancreatin and Bromelain 2040GDU. (enzyme

therapy).

o Germanium supplementation. 200mg organicly bound germanium/day. Note: It

would appear that at least locally Germanium is devoid in the diet in our area

of the country.

I wanted to make sure the group had some good news. Because this stuff

definitely works.

August 11, 2009

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the report, I hope to see more positive results in the coming weeks.

What was the pH therapy that was used? My work with Protocel and Cantron is

starting to suggest the pH is even more critical than I originally realized.

You wrote " this stuff definitely works. " I would like to point out that this is

working for this particular case. Ten years of research and writing about

alternative cancer treatments have proven to me that what works for one person

often does not work for another. The most important thing to start with is an

examination of your treatment selection method and adjusting it to the unique

aspects of alternative cancer treatments. The only information on that subject

I know of can be found near the top of http://alternativecancer.us/

I would like to point out the that Griffin reported in his " World Without

Cancer " book that the most effective method of Laetrile (B17) treatment has been

6 grams, intravenous once a day, usually given for three weeks. Laetrile can

also be taken orally, however some bacteria in a person's intestines can cause

small amounts of cyanide to be released. For this reason, it is usually

suggested that oral doses be limited to 3 grams per day. The average apricot

seed grown in the United States contains approximately four or five milligrams

of B17. So it seems that you are administrating almost a homeopathic dose.

Nothing wrong with that, but I wonder if a truly homeopathic dose would be more

effective. A homeopathic dose is a dose where there isn't any chemical form of

the medicine in the substance being taken, only the energy signature. You can

read more on B17 at http://alternativecancer.us/laetrile.htm where there is a

Table of Contents and concise writing.

Paul Winter

oleander soup , " keith0d0nnell " <keithodonnell wrote:

>

> My friend was diagnosed with Hodgkins 3 weeks ago. After 1 week of

scrambling, we got him on a few support therapies. Oleander supplements have

not yet arrived.

>

> In the 2 weeks my friend was on the following:

> o ph therapy - taking ph and adusting

> o B17 - eating 25 to 30 apricot pits/day

> o switching to a vegetable diet

> o Supplementation of each meal with Pancreatin and Bromelain 2040GDU. (enzyme

therapy).

> o Germanium supplementation. 200mg organicly bound germanium/day. Note: It

would appear that at least locally Germanium is devoid in the diet in our area

of the country.

>

> I wanted to make sure the group had some good news. Because this stuff

definitely works.

>

August 11, 2009

Hi Kieth,

That's a great report. Stick with working on the pH and consider adding a

couple of rounds of Budwig daily. My experience was also a quick response

but I had to stick with it for a long time to reach clinical remission.

Del

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> My friend was diagnosed with Hodgkins 3 weeks ago. After 1 week of

> scrambling, we got him on a few support therapies. Oleander supplements

> have not yet arrived.

>

> In the 2 weeks my friend was on the following:

> o ph therapy - taking ph and adusting

> o B17 - eating 25 to 30 apricot pits/day

> o switching to a vegetable diet

> o Supplementation of each meal with Pancreatin and Bromelain 2040GDU.

> (enzyme therapy).

> o Germanium supplementation. 200mg organicly bound germanium/day. Note:

> It would appear that at least locally Germanium is devoid in the diet in

> our area of the country.

>

> I wanted to make sure the group had some good news. Because this stuff

> definitely works.

>

> ---

>

August 12, 2009

Paul, As a wise man once said, those who are

complaining about something being impossible shouldn't get in the way

of those who are doing it. > I would like to point out the that Griffin reported in his "World Without Cancer" book that the most effective method of Laetrile (B17) treatment has been 6 grams, intravenous once a day, usually given for three weeks. Laetrile can also be taken orally, however some bacteria in a person's intestines can cause small amounts of cyanide to be released. For this reason, it is usually suggested that oral doses be limited to 3 grams per day. ...While you are correct that he mentions B17 intravenously, he also recommends seeds and fruits. And you are plainly incorrect about "it is usually suggested that oral doses be limited to 3 grams per day" To quote http://worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/whatisinb17.html, "

However 500mg amygdalin (B17) tablets, together with apricot kernels, are often employed"And there is a reason for apricot pits or kernels. The seeds and the fruit contain the enzymes and chemistry which manages the cyanide you mention. You can find the discussion, "Laetrile and the Life Saving Substance Called Cyanide by Philip Binzel, Jr., M.D." at http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/laetrileandcyanide.html And you can find this entire subject including the number of seeds to eat described in detail with a helpful table of contents and index at http://worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/ B17 is in many foods. As a result, to avoid the bacterial action you speak of which releases cyanide, one would have to avoid most vegetables and many other foods. You can find a good list of such foods in The Little Cyanide Cookbook; Delicious Recipes Rich in Vitamin B17 (Paperback)Which has achieved 4/5 stars average customer review at Amazon.com. One wonders why nobody has died of such cyanide laced food yet. And why so many people appreciate it. God has already created a complete chemistry for cancer. The B17 chemistry includes enzymes and other things to completely manage the cyanide you mention. It would have to. Becuase cyanide is a fact of life on Earth. And as it turns out, yes, there is already a complete preexisting chemistry. It turns the released cyanide into a nutritional compound. And that is why guidelines are in place for such when mentioned by G Edward Griffin and others. So that when eaten, the complete chemistry set is available. Which would, in fact, make the injection, not the seeds more dangerous. The chemistry causes the cyanide to only be released within a live chancer cell. Then for the detritus to be used nutritionally. It is a "smart weapon". If you were correct, one wonders why Jason Vale, for example, didn't die of cyanide. He ate apple seeds. He didn't seem to know that the B17 in his seeds could release some cyanide in his gut. "The cure is in the seeds", he said. You can find his story on public TV. Just google Jason Vale cancer survivor. How did he avoid injecting B17 and still live? He seemed quite healthy to me. How can this be? Unless.. there's something you missed. One wonders why the worlds leading medical researcher upon investigating B17 made the comment that he knew the rats which ate the B17 .. notice now - they ATE IT - were more healthy than the rats that didn't. Didn't he know that the vitamin B17 would release cyanide in their gut? Unless.. there's something you missed. Or perhaps something you left out. You said, A homeopathic dose is a dose where there isn't any chemical form of the

medicine in the substance being taken, only the energy signature. It is like saying a homeopathic dose of vitamin C by way of oranges contains no vitamin C. Only the "energy signature" of vitamin C. Perhaps while you were thinking, the world moved on without you. The way you refer to homeopathy no longer has any practical link to the way it is used in the world today. I believe this use of "homeopathic" would qualify as an "oxymoron". G Edward Griffin, and this board are on the right track. It is not God who has been negligent. And it is not God who looks silly. And it is not God who makes a profit. And somehow I don't think God is going to be happy until his people stop dying for lack of simple practical knowlege. And may God bless and protect those on this board who seek to remedy this.