Your soup is chemically contaminated - likely by malathion

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Once again. non-chemically contaminated oleander soup does not cause the

lips or throat to tingle. If that is happening your soup is

contaminated - and the most likely suspect is malathion. Throw it out

and start over with plants that have not been contaminated.

 

oleander soup , " bob Larson " <bobList wrote:

>

> yeah, i only tried a taste so far, just enough to wet my lips and

tongue to

> try to tell if there's tingle from toxins on the lips. i swallowed

maybe

> 1/8 tsp or less, and i got a real spirit lift as well as energized for

a few

> hours. looking forward to the OS counteracting the dragass days from

> insomnia nights from LDN. hoping the LDN stops wiring me so i only get

a

> few hours sleep.

>

> it's sure a nice buzz, and i like the smell and taste in some strange

way

> also. a huge improvement over MMS when you look forward to it.

>

> it would be nice to know for sure that the creamy stuff is good to

trash, as

> it's pretty easy to pour off the brown on top. it might say something

that

> the bottles of OS made from the upper branches and flowers made a lot

less

> creamy precip that the batch from the lower older vegetation.

>

> i tried a single-cup french press with 2 layers of filter paper in it

on

> enough OD to fill the thing, which just happened to leave the creamy

stuff

> in the bottle taking all the brown. it pushed right through. no sign

of

> anything trapped in the paper or below. not enough creamy to push

through

> it available unless i decant the 4 liter bottles. a larger french

press

> during the filtering stage of production would be handy... i don't

think

> it'll allow more than 2 layers at once though.

>

> probably dr. marc s. has studied the chemistry to know if the creamy

is

> worth saving or ...???

>

>

>

> >

> > oleander soup

> > oleander soup On Behalf Of ransley

> > Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:29 AM

> > oleander soup

> > Re: Boil down

> >

> > >except DB said his sediment is dark brown<

> >

> > Bob-

> >

> > I misjudged that, I was just seeing it brown because I boiled

> > mine down so

> > much that the liquid portion is so brown that it colors the

> > sediment. The

> > sediment is lighter color if examined closely, somewhat

> > creamy colored.

> >

> > I filtered one pint through 4 coffee filters and it took hours to go

> > through. I took that jar out of the fridge again this morning

> > and guess

> > what? It had more sediment. I'm not going to worry about this

anymore.

> >

> > This stuff makes me feel good. Can't put my finger on just

> > what it is about

> > that.

> >

> > DaddyBob

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess I question this conclusion. I have made two batches of soup from

unsprayed plants that have been in place for a long time. In one case I got the

cuttings from the property of friends who have been organic gardeners for

decades and the plants are located centrally on their property next to their

organic garden. There would be no reason to use pesticides in the area. They

assured me they had never sprayed their oleander with anything. Indeed. there is

no reason to spray it as there seem to be very few, if any, pests that bother it

here. Still I get the tingling and numbness on my lips and tongue.

 

Plants that might have been purchased after having been sprayed would, over

decades, loose whatever chemicals they were sprayed with when small.

 

Ruth

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

>

> Once again. non-chemically contaminated oleander soup does not cause the

> lips or throat to tingle. If that is happening your soup is

> contaminated - and the most likely suspect is malathion. Throw it out

> and start over with plants that have not been contaminated.

>

> > oleander soup , " bob Larson " <bobList@> wrote:

> >

> > yeah, i only tried a taste so far, just enough to wet my lips and

> tongue to

> > try to tell if there's tingle from toxins on the lips. i swallowed

> maybe

> > 1/8 tsp or less, and i got a real spirit lift as well as energized for

> a few

> > hours. looking forward to the OS counteracting the dragass days from

> > insomnia nights from LDN. hoping the LDN stops wiring me so i only get

> a

> > few hours sleep.

> >

> > it's sure a nice buzz, and i like the smell and taste in some strange

> way

> > also. a huge improvement over MMS when you look forward to it.

> >

> > it would be nice to know for sure that the creamy stuff is good to

> trash, as

> > it's pretty easy to pour off the brown on top. it might say something

> that

> > the bottles of OS made from the upper branches and flowers made a lot

> less

> > creamy precip that the batch from the lower older vegetation.

> >

> > i tried a single-cup french press with 2 layers of filter paper in it

> on

> > enough OD to fill the thing, which just happened to leave the creamy

> stuff

> > in the bottle taking all the brown. it pushed right through. no sign

> of

> > anything trapped in the paper or below. not enough creamy to push

> through

> > it available unless i decant the 4 liter bottles. a larger french

> press

> > during the filtering stage of production would be handy... i don't

> think

> > it'll allow more than 2 layers at once though.

> >

> > probably dr. marc s. has studied the chemistry to know if the creamy

> is

> > worth saving or ...???

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > oleander soup

> > > oleander soup On Behalf Of ransley@

> > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:29 AM

> > > oleander soup

> > > Re: Boil down

> > >

> > > >except DB said his sediment is dark brown<

> > >

> > > Bob-

> > >

> > > I misjudged that, I was just seeing it brown because I boiled

> > > mine down so

> > > much that the liquid portion is so brown that it colors the

> > > sediment. The

> > > sediment is lighter color if examined closely, somewhat

> > > creamy colored.

> > >

> > > I filtered one pint through 4 coffee filters and it took hours to go

> > > through. I took that jar out of the fridge again this morning

> > > and guess

> > > what? It had more sediment. I'm not going to worry about this

> anymore.

> > >

> > > This stuff makes me feel good. Can't put my finger on just

> > > what it is about

> > > that.

> > >

> > > DaddyBob

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>I guess I question this conclusion. I have made two batches of soup...<

 

Ruth-

 

I think you're right. I think Tony and I have now come to the conclusion

that some numbness can happen from this soup being made overly strong and

then being taken without plenty of water to wash it down.

 

I just got a report from my wife who is out of town helping take care of her

father. She has the soup in a dropper bottle and is simply putting a

dropperful under her tongue for a short while then chasing it with plenty of

water, She says she gets just s " little funny feeling on her tongue " that

doesn't last long. I told her to now begin taking a tiny sip of water

immediately behind the soup to mix and hold under her tongue.

 

She's coming home today. I'm going to dilute that bottle of soup by half

with DW.

 

DaddyBob