It's numbness, that's what it is - Throw out the soup!

[Guest guest]

In that case, throw out your soup - numbness is a sign of pesticide

contamination, particularly malathion, which is the number one used

pesticide at commercial nurseries and a top pesticide used by home

gardeners and others as well.

 

The good news is that malathion in small amounts is not terribly toxic

and it does pass from your body in short order; however you DO NOT want

to continue using that batch of soup!

 

Find a better source of pesticide free plants or else go with the

Sutherlandia OPC.

 

 

 

oleander soup , <ransley wrote:

>

> It's numbness in my throat that I get when I don't chase the soup with

water

> soon enough. I figured it out because it made my lower lip numb too,

like

> when you've had numbing shots from a dentist and then the feeling

starts

> coming back. It's the same sort of numbness that some sore throat

sprays

> cause. Took me a while to remember that since I haven't had a sore

throat in

> many years. DB

>

[Guest guest]

Tony-

 

I just talked again to the owner of the plant, who is a member of this

group. She's lived there 18 years. Up until 8 years ago they did contract

with a yard service that fertilized the yard and used some weedkiller only

on weeds in the grass, but nothing at all like that has been done in their

yard in 8 years. The plant itself is back away from the grassy part of the

yard and is actually sort of back up in the woods. She says nobody has ever

sprayed anything on that plant. In addition, it was trimmed back severely

just a few years ago and all the growth is fairly new.

 

The soup did not make my lip tingle upon immediate contact or for anytime

soon after taking it. It took at least a half hour for this to happen.

 

I have taken it and quickly followed it with water and none of this

happened. This only happened when I forgot to drink any water behind it. My

wife has now taken it several times with no ill effect but she always took

water behind it.

 

As I said and Bob L. said, this soup otherwise actually makes me feel good.

 

I have not had any today. I'm going to take it again and chase it with water

this time and make sure about all this. Oh and another thing- when I took it

before, I did cut it with water before taking it into my mouth, then drank

water to chase it after holding it under my tongue. Yesterday, when this

numbness happened, I did not cut it at all, and remember this is the batch

that got boiled down too much.

 

Right now I'm boiling a second batch from the same plant but this time I'll

do it right, filtering between the boilings. Also, this time I'm cutting it

with ACV. That could not possibly be any worse tasting than mixed with

vodka.

 

Just took it. I'll report back.

 

DaddyBob

[Guest guest]

It's been over 1.5 hours since I took it again, this time 1/4 tsp diluted

with a little water, under my tongue for 30 seconds, chased with water. No

problem, none at all.

 

I did not get the energy kick though. I'm just plain ol' run down and tired

right now and nothing will do but to rest.

 

DaddyBob

[Guest guest]

Okay DB. If you are certain there has been no pesiticide or other chemical exposure, your soup may be ok after all. The normal rule of thumb is that if you touch it to your lips and feel numbness or tingling then you should not use it and chances are high that there is chemical contamination, most likely pesticides (and most likely malathion)

As it turns out, I just made a batch myself from yesterday afternoon through this morning (it is a long process, as you know). We packed the leaves in perhaps a bit more than usual and then boiled it an extra hour and ended up with some pretty dark and pretty strong soup. I tasted a bit before diluting 50/50 with colloidal silver. I put some in my mouth just to guage the strength, and boy did it taste yucky! It too had a slight tingle to it, which I attribute to the strength, as I know the source of the plant, and it has had no pesiticides sprayed on it.

oleander soup , <ransley wrote:>> It's been over 1.5 hours since I took it again, this time 1/4 tsp diluted> with a little water, under my tongue for 30 seconds, chased with water. No> problem, none at all.> > I did not get the energy kick though. I'm just plain ol' run down and tired> right now and nothing will do but to rest.> > DaddyBob>

[Guest guest]

Tony wrote:

 

>As it turns out, I just made a batch myself from yesterday afternoon

through this morning (it is a long process, as you know). We packed the

leaves in perhaps a bit more than usual and then boiled it an extra hour

and ended up with some pretty dark and pretty strong soup. <

 

If anything can be done, I can overdo it. I finally realized after making my

second batch yesterday that I am making this stuff far too strong. I took

the idea too literally of pressing the leaves and stems into the pot and I

really PRESSED them in. On top of that, this time I stripped the leaves off

of any stem that was over 1/4 " thick, included those leaves but not the

stems. I did filter it in between boilings this time, but on the second

boiling I still over-condensed it and got just under a half-gallon of really

dark soup. This stuff is really strong!

 

I think that has been the cause of my problems- just making it too

dad-blamed strong.

 

One thing for any other newbie to remember, as this only occurred to me

after over-cooking this batch, is that when you are boiling any liquid down,

the progression of evaporation goes logarithmic instead of linear. I looked

at the batch after 30 minutes and made the judgment that it need 30 minutes

more boiling. It probably only needed 10 or 15 minutes at that point.

 

 

>I tasted a bit before diluting 50/50 with colloidal silver. I put some in

my mouth

just to gauge the strength, and boy did it taste yucky! It too had a slight

tingle to it, which I attribute to the strength, as I know the source of the

plant, and it has had no pesticides sprayed on it.<

 

Yeah, I'm nearly afraid to try this stuff. I'm going to cut it with ACV

today and when I do try it, it will be cut with 2 parts water before taking.

 

Congratulations on getting back. My bride of 32 years had to spend

our anniversary last weekend with her folks, her Dad is in the hospital,

long story, but recovering. She's back there now, and may be popping back

and forth between here and there, spending most of her time there, for 2

more weeks. I am getting to be one grumpy old bear without her.