Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Rupert: In a year while on the OPC my PSA has gon from 84 to 142 -- I have used the liquid, caps and made my own. Hope your day has gone well --- Duke--- On Wed, 7/29/09, rupert.jameson <rupert.jameson wrote: rupert.jameson <rupert.jameson PSA has risen a bit.oleander soup Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 3:00 PM Having enjoyed for nearly a year a decline in PSA readings following the JB protocol and taking 3 capsules per day of OPC I got a shock today to get a result that shows an increase in PSA from 6.72 to 7.77 over the last 2 months. I conclude that I have been a bit sloppy and must tighten up my self control. At the same time I am thinking to increase to 6 gellules per day the OPC which will double the dose.Also I am thinking about adding another booster such as LDN, Laetril or Methyl Jasmonite. I do not want to take any antioxidant product as that is supposed to interfere with the Budwig protocol. I also do not want something that is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC.Can anyone kindly advise what extras would be compatible. I have never had any conventional treatment for PCa such as radiation surgery chemo or hormone therapy. I would like to give my system a maximum treatment and stop backsliding. I am 72 years old and fit and active and already have lost 10kg. with the current diet and have perhaps reached my ideal weight.I will be happy to have comments and promise to keep on giving feedback. We all learn so much from the experience of others! I am very grateful for the benefit of this forumRupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Rupert - I think the anti-oxidant interference with Budwig is mostly a myth. Of the recommended items in my protocol, only perhaps alpha-lipoic acid and vitamin e might interfere as far as I know (both being oil soluable). Upping to 6 caps daily of S/OPC is a good idea. If you are not already doing so, take 2400 to 3000 mg of bioavailable curcumin daily, 12-16 caps of inositol/IP6 every other month, and plenty of colloidal silver. Now, tell us about the having sex issue - inquiring minds want to know! Are do you think Del was just bragging? oleander soup , "rupert.jameson" <rupert.jameson wrote:>> Having enjoyed for nearly a year a decline in PSA readings following the JB protocol and taking 3 capsules per day of OPC I got a shock today to get a result that shows an increase in PSA from 6.72 to 7.77 over the last 2 months. I conclude that I have been a bit sloppy and must tighten up my self control. At the same time I am thinking to increase to 6 gellules per day the OPC which will double the dose.> Also I am thinking about adding another booster such as LDN, Laetril or Methyl Jasmonite. I do not want to take any antioxidant product as that is supposed to interfere with the Budwig protocol. I also do not want something that is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC.> > Can anyone kindly advise what extras would be compatible. I have never had any conventional treatment for PCa such as radiation surgery chemo or hormone therapy. I would like to give my system a maximum treatment and stop backsliding. I am 72 years old and fit and active and already have lost 10kg. with the current diet and have perhaps reached my ideal weight.> > I will be happy to have comments and promise to keep on giving feedback. We all learn so much from the experience of others! I am very grateful for the benefit of this forum> > Rupert> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Duke - How much have you taken and what else are you taking? oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote: > > Rupert: > In a year while on the OPC my PSA has gon from 84 to 142 -- I have used the liquid, caps and made my own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope your day has gone well --- Duke > > --- On Wed, 7/29/09, rupert.jameson rupert.jameson wrote: > > > rupert.jameson rupert.jameson > PSA has risen a bit. > oleander soup > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 3:00 PM Having enjoyed for nearly a year a decline in PSA readings following the JB protocol and taking 3 capsules per day of OPC I got a shock today to get a result that shows an increase in PSA from 6.72 to 7.77 over the last 2 months. I conclude that I have been a bit sloppy and must tighten up my self control. At the same time I am thinking to increase to 6 gellules per day the OPC which will double the dose. > Also I am thinking about adding another booster such as LDN, Laetril or Methyl Jasmonite. I do not want to take any antioxidant product as that is supposed to interfere with the Budwig protocol. I also do not want something that is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC. > > Can anyone kindly advise what extras would be compatible. I have never had any conventional treatment for PCa such as radiation surgery chemo or hormone therapy. I would like to give my system a maximum treatment and stop backsliding. I am 72 years old and fit and active and already have lost 10kg. with the current diet and have perhaps reached my ideal weight. > > I will be happy to have comments and promise to keep on giving feedback. We all learn so much from the experience of others! I am very grateful for the benefit of this forum > > Rupert > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Hi Rupert. Have you try the following herbs for your PSA Nettle roots and leaves Saw palmetto berries Epilobium or flowering willow Hydrangea root Yarrow Horsetail Red clover Echinacea root and leaves All the above can be in a combination if you can find it, or you buy the herbs and mixed them yourself in a tea or tincture. Also Lycopene from ripe tomatos is good for high PSA, you can cook a nice paste from organic tomatoes and eat it. Pumking seeds in your diet will help, also Zinc helps the prostate as does Vitamin B6. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary - rupert.jameson oleander soup Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:00 AM PSA has risen a bit. Having enjoyed for nearly a year a decline in PSA readings following the JB protocol and taking 3 capsules per day of OPC I got a shock today to get a result that shows an increase in PSA from 6.72 to 7.77 over the last 2 months. I conclude that I have been a bit sloppy and must tighten up my self control. At the same time I am thinking to increase to 6 gellules per day the OPC which will double the dose.Also I am thinking about adding another booster such as LDN, Laetril or Methyl Jasmonite. I do not want to take any antioxidant product as that is supposed to interfere with the Budwig protocol. I also do not want something that is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC.Can anyone kindly advise what extras would be compatible. I have never had any conventional treatment for PCa such as radiation surgery chemo or hormone therapy. I would like to give my system a maximum treatment and stop backsliding. I am 72 years old and fit and active and already have lost 10kg. with the current diet and have perhaps reached my ideal weight.I will be happy to have comments and promise to keep on giving feedback. We all learn so much from the experience of others! I am very grateful for the benefit of this forumRupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hi Rupert. Most if not all the herbs i suggested will help to lower the PSA, thus stopping the night trips to the toilet as the pressure from elevated PSA will stop. Also drink a lot of water during the day but stop after 8 pm at night. parsley and corn silk tea are diuretics and will clear any infection in the bladder, drink this tea during the day as well. Plus do not ride a bike as the pressure hurts the prostate. No coffee or alcohol either. Grrrr Green tea, Marshmallow root, Burdock root, Golden seal root, Red raspberry leaves, Maitake + Reichi and Shiitake mushrooms are also good for prostate problems. Do your best Rupert and good luck. Hugs Mary - Rupert Jameson oleander soup Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:38 AM Re : PSA has risen a bit. Thanks Mary for your message. I have tried some of the things you listed but not all. I still have hope to find something to avoid getting up too often at night. Rgds....................Rupert De : Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>À : oleander soup Envoyé le : Jeudi, 30 Juillet 2009, 2h22mn 15sObjet : Re: PSA has risen a bit. Hi Rupert. Have you try the following herbs for your PSA Nettle roots and leaves Saw palmetto berries Epilobium or flowering willow Hydrangea root Yarrow Horsetail Red clover Echinacea root and leaves All the above can be in a combination if you can find it, or you buy the herbs and mixed them yourself in a tea or tincture. Also Lycopene from ripe tomatos is good for high PSA, you can cook a nice paste from organic tomatoes and eat it. Pumking seeds in your diet will help, also Zinc helps the prostate as does Vitamin B6. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary - rupert.jameson oleander soup Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:00 AM PSA has risen a bit. Having enjoyed for nearly a year a decline in PSA readings following the JB protocol and taking 3 capsules per day of OPC I got a shock today to get a result that shows an increase in PSA from 6.72 to 7.77 over the last 2 months. I conclude that I have been a bit sloppy and must tighten up my self control. At the same time I am thinking to increase to 6 gellules per day the OPC which will double the dose.Also I am thinking about adding another booster such as LDN, Laetril or Methyl Jasmonite. I do not want to take any antioxidant product as that is supposed to interfere with the Budwig protocol. I also do not want something that is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC.Can anyone kindly advise what extras would be compatible. I have never had any conventional treatment for PCa such as radiation surgery chemo or hormone therapy. I would like to give my system a maximum treatment and stop backsliding. I am 72 years old and fit and active and already have lost 10kg. with the current diet and have perhaps reached my ideal weight.I will be happy to have comments and promise to keep on giving feedback. We all learn so much from the experience of others! I am very grateful for the benefit of this forumRupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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