Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 The polar (water soluable) compounds in oleander, such as the essential long-chain polysacharrides, tend to precipitate out when an ethanol extraction method is used and that is why an am aqueous extraction method is by far the preferred one. I would imagine that just about anyone who uses alcohol as a preservative can expect some sedimentation. The Sutherlandia OPC, like the patented medicine version Anvirzel, uses much finer filtration than you get with coffee filters. Well below 4 microns I believe. That in itself may remove some of the particles that remain in the home version. Plus, neither of those two use alcohol as a preservative. Personally, I have never failed to get some sediment with "oleander soup". At first, I just refiltered it but then simply shook it up and used it that way. So long as you have filtered it well to begin with, I would not worry about some sediment forming. oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> ..Thanks !!!> > first sign of someone else with a similar sediment. > > > how well does your soup seem to work for your purpose (whatever that is)> when leaving creamy behind?> > i haven't been on this list for very long and have no clue how to search the> archives to answer my questions without going the rest of the way nutso...> has there been other discussion of what's good and what's not? like this> creamy stuff? i have read about the tingle on the lips test for chemicals,> but that might not cover some chems that could be used, right??? this is> getting very frustrating. i'd like to start using this stuff whenever i can> feel secure that it's o.k. and i can either siphon off the bulk of the dark> brown or just leave it as is and shake it up.> > does my and DB's description seem about typical? except DB said his> sediment is dark brown... i get some stuff on the very bottom that looks> pretty dark but like solids...maybe that's like what DB refers to? what i'm> more concerned with is the inch or so of creamy lighter stuff.> > i've watched dark little chunks form before my eyes on the coffee filter> paper. i was wondering where they came from since i'd already filtered> several times and they sure wouldn't pass through, then i watched some> grow... & i found i could shmoosh it between my fingertips.> > what's the liquid OPC look like? does it have a portion of lighter creamy> stuff on the bottom ??? if not, why not??? > > > > > > > oleander soup > > oleander soup On Behalf Of roxgrubb> > Monday, July 27, 2009 6:41 PM> > oleander soup > > Re: Boil down> > > > Hi, Just for your info., I have sediment at the bottom of > > my container of oleander soup, it is a creamy brown color. > > I use a dropper to extract the liquid and leave the sediment intact.> > > > > > > > ---> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 cool... seem to be getting somewhere finally... thanks. when you say "sediment" do you mean something that fits the lighter creamy heavier stuff i described? any idea if that part contains good stuff or is it better discarded if not just left in and consumed? i don't want to toss anything good, and the whole chemistry of the soup might be complex enough to have some needed things go into the precipitate and others not??? does OPC or Anvirzel use anything at all as a preservative? oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of TonyMonday, July 27, 2009 7:46 PMoleander soup Subject: Sediment in oleander soup The polar (water soluable) compounds in oleander, such as the essential long-chain polysacharrides, tend to precipitate out when an ethanol extraction method is used and that is why an am aqueous extraction method is by far the preferred one. I would imagine that just about anyone who uses alcohol as a preservative can expect some sedimentation. The Sutherlandia OPC, like the patented medicine version Anvirzel, uses much finer filtration than you get with coffee filters. Well below 4 microns I believe. That in itself may remove some of the particles that remain in the home version. Plus, neither of those two use alcohol as a preservative. Personally, I have never failed to get some sediment with "oleander soup". At first, I just refiltered it but then simply shook it up and used it that way. So long as you have filtered it well to begin with, I would not worry about some sediment forming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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