Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hi everyone - I'd like to introduce my wife Carol (who is the patient) and myself Richard, her husband. We have just joined this excellent group and look forward to learning a lot. Carol has a Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the sinus area, very rare and unfortunately very aggressive. After surgery at the Royal Melbourne Hospital here in Australia, the SCC has returned and we are now we are using the Cesium Chloride/DMSO protocol (from Larry at 'Essense of Life'), and it has been causing quite a lot of inflammation and swelling. This is extremely painful in the sinus area and means using painkillers. This is the one draw back of Cesium - but at least we know this protocol is working. However, it would be good to use an additional protocol that does not cause swelling and that is why we have decided to use oleander, and perhaps cut down on the Cesium. I have ordered Sutherlandia OPC from Marc in South Africa but as it hasn't arrived yet have also (fastidiously) made 'the soup'. The problem is Carol seems to be getting nausea with only a very small dose - less than half a teaspoon. Perhaps this is because the oleander is helping her detox? Incidentally I have been taking considerably larger doses than Carol, just to check I didn't get the chemistry wrong. I'm fit and well (do not have cancer) and have had no nausea. However, the Cesium/DMSO causes no nausea or side effects with Carol because it is administered transdermally (except of course the inflammation), and I was wondering if I could use the oleander soup, mixed 50/50 with DMSO for a transdermal application? Has anyone any experience of this? I'd love your feedback. Best wishes, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hi Richard,We welcome you and Carol to the group. Is it the taste of the soup that is making her nauseous? Until the Sutherlandia OPC arrives, You might try mixing it with some juice. Make sure it is 100% juice and when I have taken the soup, I have mixed it with Pomegranate Juice. Test it out and see if that helps. Just give her a tiny bit and see how she does. The Sutherlandia OPC takes approximately two weeks to arrive from South Africa, sometimes sooner. Actually, no more than two weeks. As for applying the oleander soup transdermally with DMSO, I am going to defer that question to Marc, or possibly Tony should he be able to get back online. My very best,oleander soup , "Richard" <crawley wrote:>> Hi everyone - I'd like to introduce my wife Carol (who is the patient) and myself Richard, her husband. We have just joined this excellent group and look forward to learning a lot.> > Carol has a Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the sinus area, very rare and unfortunately very aggressive. After surgery at the Royal Melbourne Hospital here in Australia, the SCC has returned and we are now we are using the Cesium Chloride/DMSO protocol (from Larry at 'Essense of Life'), and it has been causing quite a lot of inflammation and swelling. This is extremely painful in the sinus area and means using painkillers. This is the one draw back of Cesium - but at least we know this protocol is working.> > However, it would be good to use an additional protocol that does not cause swelling and that is why we have decided to use oleander, and perhaps cut down on the Cesium.> > I have ordered Sutherlandia OPC from Marc in South Africa but as it hasn't arrived yet have also (fastidiously) made 'the soup'. The problem is Carol seems to be getting nausea with only a very small dose - less than half a teaspoon. Perhaps this is because the oleander is helping her detox? Incidentally I have been taking considerably larger doses than Carol, just to check I didn't get the chemistry wrong. I'm fit and well (do not have cancer) and have had no nausea.> > However, the Cesium/DMSO causes no nausea or side effects with Carol because it is administered transdermally (except of course the inflammation), and I was wondering if I could use the oleander soup, mixed 50/50 with DMSO for a transdermal application?> > Has anyone any experience of this? I'd love your feedback.> > Best wishes,> > Richard> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Hi , Thanks for the info and I'll try and encourage Carol try the soup with juice. I'd really appreciate some feedback from Marc or Tony re the transdermal use of Oleander and DMSO. Best wishes, Richrad oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > We welcome you and Carol to the group. > > Is it the taste of the soup that is making her nauseous? Until the > Sutherlandia OPC arrives, You might try mixing it with some juice. Make > sure it is 100% juice and when I have taken the soup, I have mixed it > with Pomegranate Juice. Test it out and see if that helps. Just give > her a tiny bit and see how she does. The Sutherlandia OPC takes > approximately two weeks to arrive from South Africa, sometimes sooner. > Actually, no more than two weeks. > > As for applying the oleander soup transdermally with DMSO, I am going to > defer that question to Marc, or possibly Tony should he be able to get > back online. > > My very best, > > > > oleander soup , " Richard " <crawley@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone - I'd like to introduce my wife Carol (who is the patient) > and myself Richard, her husband. We have just joined this excellent > group and look forward to learning a lot. > > > > Carol has a Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the sinus area, very rare and > unfortunately very aggressive. After surgery at the Royal Melbourne > Hospital here in Australia, the SCC has returned and we are now we are > using the Cesium Chloride/DMSO protocol (from Larry at 'Essense of > Life'), and it has been causing quite a lot of inflammation and > swelling. This is extremely painful in the sinus area and means using > painkillers. This is the one draw back of Cesium - but at least we know > this protocol is working. > > > > However, it would be good to use an additional protocol that does not > cause swelling and that is why we have decided to use oleander, and > perhaps cut down on the Cesium. > > > > I have ordered Sutherlandia OPC from Marc in South Africa but as it > hasn't arrived yet have also (fastidiously) made 'the soup'. The problem > is Carol seems to be getting nausea with only a very small dose - less > than half a teaspoon. Perhaps this is because the oleander is helping > her detox? Incidentally I have been taking considerably larger doses > than Carol, just to check I didn't get the chemistry wrong. I'm fit and > well (do not have cancer) and have had no nausea. > > > > However, the Cesium/DMSO causes no nausea or side effects with Carol > because it is administered transdermally (except of course the > inflammation), and I was wondering if I could use the oleander soup, > mixed 50/50 with DMSO for a transdermal application? > > > > Has anyone any experience of this? I'd love your feedback. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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