Effectiveness against pancreatic cancer?

[Guest guest]

My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy

(Gemzar) between September and December, and after his last session, his cancer

had apparently gone into remission (except for " seeds " in his pancreas...?).

However,

 

My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy

(Gemzar) between August 2008 and December 2008. According to his oncologist, his

tumors exhibited a dramatic response to the therapy (a response rate of <5% is

typically observed) and he apparently felt fine from December to until recently.

Last week, he admitted himself to hospice because, according to the hospice

physician (not an oncologist), the cancer has experienced new growth and is

blocking his digestive tract (I don't know which organs specifically since this

is word of mouth passed on to me by relatives). We have told him that he won't

undergo evaluation for additional treatments as a hospice patient, but he

stubbornly won't go to the hospital. He hasn't eaten in nearly two weeks and is

visibly " wasting away " (he won't even call a gastroenterologist to request

prescription pancreatic enzymes).

 

I have ordered two bottles of Curcumin C3 Complex w/Bioperine that should arrive

this week, and I plan on administering (if my uncle cooperates) 8 grams/day to

him, if it isn't too late already.

 

Can Oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC help? He just seems so reluctant to try

anything, it's almost as if he's made the decision to give up...

[Guest guest]

Your uncle needs to be convinced that there is hope. This is imperative. Is the blockage responsible for his not eating or is it because he is despondent? Does the hospice physician offer any hope that this blockage can be removed in any way? Lastly, has the cancer spread to other parts of the body? We do not advocate surgery or any conventional means unless it is a live threatening situation, such as the blockage you mention, and there is need to bide time while alternative measures are implemented.

Sutherlandia OPC or Oleander Soup should definitely be introduced immediately, together with the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol , but, of course, your uncle must cooperate and want to save his life. Are there family members or friends who could intercede to save his life?

Because of the urgency in this matter, if your uncle consents to taking Sutherlandia OPC, send me an email and we will get you out a couple of bottles while you are waiting for your Sutherlandia OPC order to arrive from South Africa. Delivery from South Africa takes about a couple of weeks. We will explain how to go about it. We keep some bottles on hand simply for emergencies such as these. Your other option is to make the "Soup" but you must follow explicit instructions and make absolutely sure that the plant being used has not been sprayed with any pesticides.

 

oleander soup , "henrye4" <hutchesonhh wrote:>> My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy (Gemzar) between September and December, and after his last session, his cancer had apparently gone into remission (except for "seeds" in his pancreas...?). However, > > My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy (Gemzar) between August 2008 and December 2008. According to his oncologist, his tumors exhibited a dramatic response to the therapy (a response rate of <5% is typically observed) and he apparently felt fine from December to until recently. Last week, he admitted himself to hospice because, according to the hospice physician (not an oncologist), the cancer has experienced new growth and is blocking his digestive tract (I don't know which organs specifically since this is word of mouth passed on to me by relatives). We have told him that he won't undergo evaluation for additional treatments as a hospice patient, but he stubbornly won't go to the hospital. He hasn't eaten in nearly two weeks and is visibly "wasting away" (he won't even call a gastroenterologist to request prescription pancreatic enzymes).> > I have ordered two bottles of Curcumin C3 Complex w/Bioperine that should arrive this week, and I plan on administering (if my uncle cooperates) 8 grams/day to him, if it isn't too late already. > > Can Oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC help? He just seems so reluctant to try anything, it's almost as if he's made the decision to give up...>

[Guest guest]

henrye,

 

Google black cumin seed oil. This oil is a specific for pancreatic

cancer. Tony recommends this along with his protocol for all cancers.

 

Bob

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" henrye4 " <hutchesonhh

<oleander soup >

Monday, May 25, 2009 6:08 PM

Effectiveness against pancreatic cancer?

 

 

> My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of

> chemotherapy (Gemzar) between September and December, and after his last

> session, his cancer had apparently gone into remission (except for " seeds "

> in his pancreas...?). However,

>

> My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of

> chemotherapy (Gemzar) between August 2008 and December 2008. According to

> his oncologist, his tumors exhibited a dramatic response to the therapy (a

> response rate of <5% is typically observed) and he apparently felt fine

> from December to until recently. Last week, he admitted himself to hospice

> because, according to the hospice physician (not an oncologist), the

> cancer has experienced new growth and is blocking his digestive tract (I

> don't know which organs specifically since this is word of mouth passed on

> to me by relatives). We have told him that he won't undergo evaluation for

> additional treatments as a hospice patient, but he stubbornly won't go to

> the hospital. He hasn't eaten in nearly two weeks and is visibly " wasting

> away " (he won't even call a gastroenterologist to request prescription

> pancreatic enzymes).

>

> I have ordered two bottles of Curcumin C3 Complex w/Bioperine that should

> arrive this week, and I plan on administering (if my uncle cooperates) 8

> grams/day to him, if it isn't too late already.

>

> Can Oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC help? He just seems so reluctant to try

> anything, it's almost as if he's made the decision to give up...

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , Can you please respond to my questions about MD Anderson and my Mom, I posted them a bit ago???

Are you waiting to speak with Tony maybe?

 

Thank you~ Tammatha

 

-

May

oleander soup

Monday, May 25, 2009 7:29 PM

Re: Effectiveness against pancreatic cancer?

 

 

 

Your uncle needs to be convinced that there is hope. This is imperative. Is the blockage responsible for his not eating or is it because he is despondent? Does the hospice physician offer any hope that this blockage can be removed in any way? Lastly, has the cancer spread to other parts of the body? We do not advocate surgery or any conventional means unless it is a live threatening situation, such as the blockage you mention, and there is need to bide time while alternative measures are implemented.

Sutherlandia OPC or Oleander Soup should definitely be introduced immediately, together with the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol , but, of course, your uncle must cooperate and want to save his life. Are there family members or friends who could intercede to save his life?

Because of the urgency in this matter, if your uncle consents to taking Sutherlandia OPC, send me an email and we will get you out a couple of bottles while you are waiting for your Sutherlandia OPC order to arrive from South Africa. Delivery from South Africa takes about a couple of weeks. We will explain how to go about it. We keep some bottles on hand simply for emergencies such as these. Your other option is to make the "Soup" but you must follow explicit instructions and make absolutely sure that the plant being used has not been sprayed with any pesticides.

 

oleander soup , "henrye4" <hutchesonhh wrote:>> My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy (Gemzar) between September and December, and after his last session, his cancer had apparently gone into remission (except for "seeds" in his pancreas...?). However, > > My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of chemotherapy (Gemzar) between August 2008 and December 2008. According to his oncologist, his tumors exhibited a dramatic response to the therapy (a response rate of <5% is typically observed) and he apparently felt fine from December to until recently. Last week, he admitted himself to hospice because, according to the hospice physician (not an oncologist), the cancer has experienced new growth and is blocking his digestive tract (I don't know which organs specifically since this is word of m! outh passed on to me by relatives). We have told him that he won't undergo evaluation for additional treatments as a hospice patient, but he stubbornly won't go to the hospital. He hasn't eaten in nearly two weeks and is visibly "wasting away" (he won't even call a gastroenterologist to request prescription pancreatic enzymes).> > I have ordered two bottles of Curcumin C3 Complex w/Bioperine that should arrive this week, and I plan on administering (if my uncle cooperates) 8 grams/day to him, if it isn't too late already. > > Can Oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC help? He just seems so reluctant to try anything, it's almost as if he's made the decision to give up...>

[Guest guest]

Oops! Sorry Tammatha, must have missed that one. I'll go look it up.

Hugs,

 

oleander soup , "Tammatha" <tammatha wrote:>> Hi , Can you please respond to my questions about MD Anderson and my Mom, I posted them a bit ago???> Are you waiting to speak with Tony maybe?> > Thank you~ Tammatha

[Guest guest]

Sorry -- I just realized that my original post began, was suddenly disrupted,

and then began again; I thought I deleted the original paragraph at the top

because I decided to start over, but apparently I didn't do so.

 

What the hospice staff (nurses) told us is that their facility typically limits

their practice to palliative care; they said that my uncle won't receive

progressive treatment (I.e., only management of pain symptoms) unless he goes to

a hospital/medical center. We're all dumbfounded as to why he didn't go to the

hospital in the first place.

 

He " thinks " he's going to have someone drive him to the hospital/oncology center

tomorrow morning, so hopefully he will follow through with that idea. He's still

pessimistic, however, about the extent to which additional therapy -- mainstream

or alternative -- can augment his life expectancy.

 

For those interested, these posts provide a brief history of his " saga " battling

PC:

 

http://www.cancerforums.net/post-49985.html

 

May: can you accept PayPal as a form of payment for a bottle of

Sutherlandia OPC? If you are located in the USA (as I am), I think it would

honestly be a wiser idea to just order directly from you since I'm not sure if

he will still be alive in several more weeks. As far as I know, he hasn't eaten

since the 13th-16th of May (I'm giving a roundabout estimate because we actually

had dinner with him on the 13th when he still felt mostly fine, and I'm not sure

if that was the last day he ate any food).

 

The hospice physician stated that the blockage is caused by his cancer, although

he isn't an oncologist. Unfortunately, unless my uncle makes the potentially

life-saving decision to go to the hospital tomorrow morning (fingers crossed),

he won't receive a definitive prognosis on the status of his disease.

 

Thanks for your time, and I appreciate your assistance...

 

 

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote:

>

>

> Your uncle needs to be convinced that there is hope. This is imperative.

> Is the blockage responsible for his not eating or is it because he is

> despondent? Does the hospice physician offer any hope that this

> blockage can be removed in any way? Lastly, has the cancer spread to

> other parts of the body? We do not advocate surgery or any conventional

> means unless it is a live threatening situation, such as the blockage

> you mention, and there is need to bide time while alternative measures

> are implemented.

>

> Sutherlandia OPC or Oleander Soup should definitely be introduced

> immediately, together with the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol

> </anticancer.htm> , but, of course, your uncle must

> cooperate and want to save his life. Are there family members or

> friends who could intercede to save his life?

>

> Because of the urgency in this matter, if your uncle consents to taking

> Sutherlandia OPC, send me an email and we will get you out a couple of

> bottles while you are waiting for your Sutherlandia OPC order to arrive

> from South Africa. Delivery from South Africa takes about a couple of

> weeks. We will explain how to go about it. We keep some bottles on

> hand simply for emergencies such as these. Your other option is to make

> the " Soup " but you must follow explicit instructions and make absolutely

> sure that the plant being used has not been sprayed with any pesticides.

>

>

>

>

> oleander soup , " henrye4 " <hutchesonhh@> wrote:

> >

> > My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of

> chemotherapy (Gemzar) between September and December, and after his last

> session, his cancer had apparently gone into remission (except for

> " seeds " in his pancreas...?). However,

> >

> > My uncle has stage IV pancreatic cancer; he underwent 6 sessions of

> chemotherapy (Gemzar) between August 2008 and December 2008. According

> to his oncologist, his tumors exhibited a dramatic response to the

> therapy (a response rate of <5% is typically observed) and he apparently

> felt fine from December to until recently. Last week, he admitted

> himself to hospice because, according to the hospice physician (not an

> oncologist), the cancer has experienced new growth and is blocking his

> digestive tract (I don't know which organs specifically since this is

> word of mouth passed on to me by relatives). We have told him that he

> won't undergo evaluation for additional treatments as a hospice patient,

> but he stubbornly won't go to the hospital. He hasn't eaten in nearly

> two weeks and is visibly " wasting away " (he won't even call a

> gastroenterologist to request prescription pancreatic enzymes).

> >

> > I have ordered two bottles of Curcumin C3 Complex w/Bioperine that

> should arrive this week, and I plan on administering (if my uncle

> cooperates) 8 grams/day to him, if it isn't too late already.

> >

> > Can Oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC help? He just seems so reluctant to

> try anything, it's almost as if he's made the decision to give up...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Are they, in fact, going to drive him to the hospital should he decide to go? Maybe you can take him and talk to him?

Mainstream medicine really will not increase his life expectancy, but at this point he may need professional help. At the very least to see if that blockage can somehow be removed. He would need to start on Oleander and the the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol immediately. This is the hope that he has for recovery. If you could explain this to him. That going to the hospital is just to figure out how the blockage can be removed, but that he will be using nature to heal him. That he will be addressing the cancer from its source with alternatives that will strengthen his body, not destroy it. Most of all, his state of mind needs to be changed and he needs to feel hopeful.

I am going to send you a private email as to how we can send you Sutherladia OPC to hold you over.

I will go to the link and read it.

 

 

[Guest guest]

I actually have a class early in the morning, but my dad is going to go to hospice to visit with him and see if he wants to go to the hospital. Either his daughter, my dad, or another relative will take him. Hopefully he will decide to go...

 

I don't think I've given you my e-mail address; it is HutchesonHH "AT" aol.com (of course, replace the "AT" with @).

 

Thanks for your help...

 

 

 

 

 

 

May <luellamay129

oleander soup

Tue, 26 May 2009 12:41 am

Re: Effectiveness against pancreatic cancer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are they, in fact, going to drive him to the hospital should he decide to go? Maybe you can take him and talk to him?

Mainstream medicine really will not increase his life expectancy, but at this point he may need professional help. At the very least to see if that blockage can somehow be removed. He would need to start on Oleander and the the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol immediately. This is the hope that he has for recovery. If you could explain this to him. That going to the hospital is just to figure out how the blockage can be removed, but that he will be using nature to heal him. That he will be addressing the cancer from its source with alternatives that will strengthen his body, not destroy it. Most of all, his state of mind needs to be changed and he needs to feel hopeful.

I am going to send you a private email as to how we can send you Sutherladia OPC to hold you over.

I will go to the link and read it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

He needs to be talked into going to the hospital and given the hope to live. Tell him that the blockage needs to be addressed and that he will be starting natural healing methods that will help him.

I am hoping that the blockage can be removed by surgery. If it can, I would not opt for chemo or radiation after that. Just get the tumor or part of the tumor removed and start the Oleander and the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol.

In the meantime, would it be possible for him to live with a relative that will care for him?