CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWS

[Guest guest]

On Dr Tullio Simoncini and cancer as a fungus

 

Here : 5 short movies, a FAQ and one interview with Dr Apsley about Dr Simoncini

protocol

 

Dr. Apsley holds degrees in nutrition - B.S., chiropractic - D.C., and medicine

– MD(E). Certifications include Independent Medical Examiner (IME), Spinal

Disability Evaluator (CSDE), and Insurance Claims Reviewer (IRC). He is also a

qualified instructor of Electrodermal Scanning and Darkfield Microscopy.

[Guest guest]

Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship between

cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

 

One Proof (of many): If cancer was a fungus, then most cancers could be quickly

cured with the many powerful anti-fungal drugs out there, such as diflucan,

which are far far far more powerful than baking soda. But it isn't happening.

 

Time is precious for those fighting cancer. If someone wastes tremondous time

pursuing a worthless avenue, then that is almost criminal. That is what I feel

about this whole " cancer is a fungus " avenue.

 

oleander soup , " shaman_urban " <shaman_urban wrote:

>

> On Dr Tullio Simoncini and cancer as a fungus

>

> Here : 5 short movies, a FAQ and one interview with Dr Apsley about Dr

Simoncini protocol

>

> Dr. Apsley holds degrees in nutrition - B.S., chiropractic - D.C., and

medicine – MD(E). Certifications include Independent Medical Examiner (IME),

Spinal Disability Evaluator (CSDE), and Insurance Claims Reviewer (IRC). He is

also a qualified instructor of Electrodermal Scanning and Darkfield Microscopy.

>

[Guest guest]

Jim

 

This is the opinion of Dr Simoncini and the one of his brother, both MD who lost

theirs licenses insisting in curing people with an inexpensive product instead

of Chemo. Why are they doing this ? I have no idea...

 

I don't have personal opinion on what is Cancer...

 

I am focusing only on what increase cancer cell proliferation or what can stop

cancer or reverse cancer.

 

To use a product that is almost innocuous is not criminal and deserve

at least our attention. I am sure that you are aware of the case of Mr Vernom,

so something it s worth to investigate because it is the first time that i heard

of such a fast recovery from a cancer stage IV with skeletal metastasis.

 

My wife is on a very alkaline diet and she is taking some bicarbonate of

soda for her breast cancer.

 

Note : she had for her entire life a 3 square inch of a sort of psoriasis on

one of her elbow. By following two months the Iodine protocol of Dr Simoncini

the patch of psoriasis is gone.

 

So at least on this one he is right.

 

just my two cents..

 

 

> Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship

between cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

[Guest guest]

The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds. At least two people died from Simoncini's injections of baking soda. As far as I know no one was cured. Early claims of cure and associated testimony turned out to be bogus. Simoncini could likely kill some tumor cells by injecting baking soda into the blood supply to the tumor. You could do that with lots of things including alcohol, strong acids, almost anything that would destroy cellular equallibrium. This is not curing cancer. You could kill cancer cells by strilking a tumor with a baseball bat too, but it is not a cure for cancer.

I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was erupting from the skin. This was long, direct contact. It did absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious. I won't pass judgement on the fellow claiming to have cured his metastasized cancer who is being very outspoken about it. If what he says about his own experience is true, he is one very lucky dude. It seems, though, that he is standing alone.

 

Mike--- On Sun, 5/24/09, shaman_urban <shaman_urban wrote:

shaman_urban <shaman_urban Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:02 PM

 

 

Jim This is the opinion of Dr Simoncini and the one of his brother, both MD who lost theirs licenses insisting in curing people with an inexpensive product instead of Chemo. Why are they doing this ? I have no idea...I don't have personal opinion on what is Cancer...I am focusing only on what increase cancer cell proliferation or what can stop cancer or reverse cancer.To use a product that is almost innocuous is not criminal and deserve at least our attention. I am sure that you are aware of the case of Mr Vernom, so something it s worth to investigate because it is the first time that i heard of such a fast recovery from a cancer stage IV with skeletal metastasis.My wife is on a very alkaline diet and she is taking some bicarbonate of soda for her breast cancer.Note : she had for her entire life a 3 square inch of a sort of psoriasis on one of her elbow. By following two months the Iodine protocol of

Dr Simoncini the patch of psoriasis is gone.So at least on this one he is right.just my two cents..> Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship between cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Can it be that most cancers are from fungus? Like from peanut butter,wheat, barley and corn. http://www.mold-survivor.com/t_2_mycotoxin.html

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds. At least two people died from Simoncini's injections of baking soda. As far as I know no one was cured. Early claims of cure and associated testimony turned out to be bogus. Simoncini could likely kill some tumor cells by injecting baking soda into the blood supply to the tumor. You could do that with lots of things including alcohol, strong acids, almost anything that would destroy cellular equallibrium. This is not curing cancer. You could kill cancer cells by strilking a tumor with a baseball bat too, but it is not a cure for cancer.

I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was erupting from the skin. This was long, direct contact. It did absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious. I won't pass judgement on the fellow claiming to have cured his metastasized cancer who is being very outspoken about it. If what he says about his own experience is true, he is one very lucky dude. It seems, though, that he is standing alone.

 

Mike--- On Sun, 5/24/09, shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > wrote:

shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soupSunday, May 24, 2009, 9:02 PM

 

 

Jim This is the opinion of Dr Simoncini and the one of his brother, both MD who lost theirs licenses insisting in curing people with an inexpensive product instead of Chemo. Why are they doing this ? I have no idea...I don't have personal opinion on what is Cancer...I am focusing only on what increase cancer cell proliferation or what can stop cancer or reverse cancer.To use a product that is almost innocuous is not criminal and deserve at least our attention. I am sure that you are aware of the case of Mr Vernom, so something it s worth to investigate because it is the first time that i heard of such a fast recovery from a cancer stage IV with skeletal metastasis.My wife is on a very alkaline diet and she is taking some bicarbonate of soda for her breast cancer.Note : she had for her entire life a 3 square inch of a sort of psoriasis on one of her elbow. By following two months the Iodine protocol of

Dr Simoncini the patch of psoriasis is gone.So at least on this one he is right.just my two cents..> Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship between cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

[Guest guest]

Mike Wrote :

> The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds.  At least two people died from

Simoncini's injections of baking soda. "

 

Common Mike, you know the physical state of patients who turn to alternative

medicine at the last minute. Sincerely do you know two oncologist who never lost

two patients in 20 years?

 

You wrote :

As far as I know no one was cured.

 

Well I have seen few video testimonials on Simoncini " s brothers site that make

me believe the contrary. Unfortunately the testimonials are mostly Italian

including a recent one of an MD ( Carmelo Lombardo) cured of lung cancer ( both

lungs with metastasis to the colon).

 

http://www.curenaturalicancro.org/base_schermo_grande_testimonianza_dottore.htm

 

like this MD say at the end of his testimonial : everybody can read, we have

eyes to see, ears to listen... we have to investigate and can't just turn our

back and dismiss Simoncini.. man who lost everything and act in good faith..

 

He said also : you don't have ONE truth...

 

 

Mike you wrote ;

 

" I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was

erupting from the skin.  This was long, direct contact.  It did absolutely

nothing.  This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking

soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious.  

 

answer;

The protocol of Simoncini for breast cancer require deep peri-lesion

infiltrations if the cancer is of small dimensions. The infiltrations must be

performed after local anesthesia by combined intravenous phleboclysis using

400-500 cm3 on alternate days for a month. If the mass is large it is also

necessary to apply a catheter to the internal mammary artery through which the

sodium bicarbonate five per cent solution can be infused directly on to the

neoplasia in a six or seven days cycle.

 

What can I tell you.. if I have " to bet my life " on different protocols : I

will certainly choose the one presented in this group, with a mix of Gerson ,

Wigmore Diet. Cleansing of the colon , liver etc.. anything that could boost my

immune system... and ...the Simoncini protocol.

 

Like Dr Lombardo say :this is a personal choice..

[Guest guest]

I have been reading numerous posts over some time.

 

I believe , that it important that all have their opinions about different subjects.

I base my opinions on facts.

Based on what I not only have read, but have seen with my own eyes.

We all have to share what we trust as truth.

 

Unfortunately, over many years, I have grown to TOTALY distrust what medical doctors, combined with pharmaceutical houses are saying to the public.

Not only in the US but around the globe.

Also, unfortunately it has come down to money, not patient care.

 

That is why I did not pursue the medical field, as I was in the 1960's.

I had already gone through 3 years of extensive training as a doctor.

Then I met Dr. Jensen ( along with several other mentors) who showed me another path.

That has proven a good path to follow.

 

I'm not here to dispute any of the comments.

I only ask that one put information here that has a strong ground, a strong basis.

 

Please be aware, that many of the readers and contributors are currently dealing

with major challenges.

Life challenges.

 

We all have to help those in need.

To become better and to become healthy, yet again.

 

Rich

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/25/2009 4:10:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shaman_urban writes:

You wrote :> The people that died were not end stage cancer patients. They died from alkalosis as a result of injected baking soda.This is a supposition of Cancer watch and organizations like quackwatch. Just one more personal attack against Dr Simoncini. You wrote :'The video testimonies are exactly the thing I was referring to when I mentioned fraudulent testimony."Who said so ? how do you know ?, who told you ? what are your sources ? it took me five minute to get is address of this doctor, his title where he work and even his E-mail.I can send you all this privately if you want.Sorry, You keep your beliefs mike and I keep investigatingYou wrote> Look into this a little further, please. Do not worry Mike I am looking into it, as I am in contact with his group and assistants. you wrote :> Also your response concerning the administration of the baking soda ignores Simoncini's claim that topical baking soda could be used in the bladder and GI tract. AnswerI thought that we were talking about a breast cancer. my bad.For bladder and GI tract Simoncini recommend flushing not moisturizing ...I personally believe that is breast cancer protocol had to be followed at least as written by the author if you want to achieve the same result. I am not an MD but I still tried to be logical..You should had at least call him or one of his MD assistant before engaging in experimentation with his protocol, no ?. I was reading few minutes ago an E-mail of Mr Vernon that I plan to interview and he told me that he actually did not even know that Dr Simoncini also recommended to take baking soda orally. So having few weeks to live He took a chance and as you said he is a lucky guy ! ---

[Guest guest]

The people that died were not end stage cancer patients. They died from alkalosis as a result of injected baking soda. The video testimonies are exactly the thing I was referring to when I mentioned fraudulent testimony.Look into this a little further, please.Also your response concerning the administration of the baking soda ignores Simoncini's claim that topical baking soda could be used in the bladder and GI tract. As I pointed out, injection of lots of things could kill cancer cells if you put the substance right into the artery. This does not require alkaline substances. It can also be done with acidic substances. In fact you could inject a sclerosing agent and close down the artey. This will kill a lot of cancer cells in the tumor, but it is not a cancer cure and could easily result in metastasis which can

be triggered by sudden hypoxia. Mike--- On Mon, 5/25/09, shaman_urban <shaman_urban wrote:shaman_urban <shaman_urban Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:55 PM

 

Mike Wrote :

> The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds. At least two people died from Simoncini's injections of baking soda. "

 

Common Mike, you know the physical state of patients who turn to alternative medicine at the last minute. Sincerely do you know two oncologist who never lost two patients in 20 years?

 

You wrote :

As far as I know no one was cured.

 

Well I have seen few video testimonials on Simoncini"s brothers site that make me believe the contrary. Unfortunately the testimonials are mostly Italian including a recent one of an MD ( Carmelo Lombardo) cured of lung cancer ( both lungs with metastasis to the colon).

 

http://www.curenatu ralicancro. org/base_ schermo_grande_ testimonianza_ dottore.htm

 

like this MD say at the end of his testimonial : everybody can read, we have eyes to see, ears to listen... we have to investigate and can't just turn our back and dismiss Simoncini.. man who lost everything and act in good faith..

 

He said also : you don't have ONE truth...

 

Mike you wrote ;

 

" I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was erupting from the skin. This was long, direct contact. It did absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious.

 

answer;

The protocol of Simoncini for breast cancer require deep peri-lesion infiltrations if the cancer is of small dimensions. The infiltrations must be performed after local anesthesia by combined intravenous phleboclysis using 400-500 cm3 on alternate days for a month. If the mass is large it is also necessary to apply a catheter to the internal mammary artery through which the sodium bicarbonate five per cent solution can be infused directly on to the neoplasia in a six or seven days cycle.

 

What can I tell you.. if I have " to bet my life " on different protocols : I will certainly choose the one presented in this group, with a mix of Gerson , Wigmore Diet. Cleansing of the colon , liver etc.. anything that could boost my immune system... and ...the Simoncini protocol.

 

Like Dr Lombardo say :this is a personal choice..

[Guest guest]

You wrote :

 

 

> The people that died were not end stage cancer patients.  They died from

alkalosis as a result of injected baking soda.

 

 

This is a supposition of Cancer watch and organizations like quackwatch.

Just one more personal attack against Dr Simoncini.

 

You wrote :

'The video testimonies are exactly the thing I was referring to when I

mentioned fraudulent testimony. "

 

Who said so ? how do you know ?, who told you ? what are your sources ?

 

it took me five minute to get is address of this doctor, his title where he

work and even his E-mail.

 

I can send you all this privately if you want.

 

Sorry, You keep your beliefs mike and I keep investigating

 

You wrote

> Look into this a little further, please.

 

 

Do not worry Mike I am looking into it, as I am in contact with his group and

assistants.

 

you wrote :

> Also your response concerning the administration of the baking soda ignores

Simoncini's claim that topical baking soda could be used in the bladder and GI

tract.

 

 

Answer

I thought that we were talking about a breast cancer. my bad.

 

For bladder and GI tract Simoncini recommend flushing not moisturizing ...

 

I personally believe that is breast cancer protocol had to be followed at least

as written by the author if you want to achieve the same result. I am not an MD

but I still tried to be logical..

 

You should had at least call him or one of his MD assistant before engaging in

experimentation with his protocol, no ?

..

 

I was reading few minutes ago an E-mail of Mr Vernon that I plan to

interview and he told me that he actually did not even know that Dr Simoncini

also recommended to take baking soda orally. So having few weeks to live He took

a chance and as you said he is a lucky guy !

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to show you this it is scarry: http://www.aflatoxin.info/health.asp

 

--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:

Liz Clifton <free2roamlizRe: Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 4:18 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi,

Can it be that most cancers are from fungus? Like from peanut butter,wheat, barley and corn. http://www.mold- survivor. com/t_2_mycotoxi n.html

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soupSunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds. At least two people died from Simoncini's injections of baking soda. As far as I know no one was cured. Early claims of cure and associated testimony turned out to be bogus. Simoncini could likely kill some tumor cells by injecting baking soda into the blood supply to the tumor. You could do that with lots of things including alcohol, strong acids, almost anything that would destroy cellular equallibrium. This is not curing cancer. You could kill cancer cells by strilking a tumor with a baseball bat too, but it is not a cure for cancer.

I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was erupting from the skin. This was long, direct contact. It did absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious. I won't pass judgement on the fellow claiming to have cured his metastasized cancer who is being very outspoken about it. If what he says about his own experience is true, he is one very lucky dude. It seems, though, that he is standing alone.

 

Mike--- On Sun, 5/24/09, shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > wrote:

shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soupSunday, May 24, 2009, 9:02 PM

 

 

Jim This is the opinion of Dr Simoncini and the one of his brother, both MD who lost theirs licenses insisting in curing people with an inexpensive product instead of Chemo. Why are they doing this ? I have no idea...I don't have personal opinion on what is Cancer...I am focusing only on what increase cancer cell proliferation or what can stop cancer or reverse cancer.To use a product that is almost innocuous is not criminal and deserve at least our attention. I am sure that you are aware of the case of Mr Vernom, so something it s worth to investigate because it is the first time that i heard of such a fast recovery from a cancer stage IV with skeletal metastasis.My wife is on a very alkaline diet and she is taking some bicarbonate of soda for her breast cancer.Note : she had for her entire life a 3 square inch of a sort of psoriasis on one of her elbow. By following two months the Iodine protocol of

Dr Simoncini the patch of psoriasis is gone.So at least on this one he is right.just my two cents..> Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship between cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

[Guest guest]

Hi, sorry got carried away but this is a great article that tells you how to get rid of mold in food with vitamin C.. it also says that -

Aflatoxin What is so important about molds? Some of them produce very, very toxic chemicals wherever they grow. They produce some of the most toxic chemicals known to exist.. Aflatoxin is one of these. My tests show it is always present in cancer patients; in other words it has built up due to the body's inability to detoxify it in a reasonable time. A great deal of research has been done on aflatoxin.

And that toxic mold gets in vinigar and I have all my Oleander in vinigar and could not use brown bottles guess I maybe should put vitamin C in the solution. Would that hurt it?

 

 

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/moldy_food_and_aflotoxins.html--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:

Liz Clifton <free2roamlizRe: Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 4:18 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi,

Can it be that most cancers are from fungus? Like from peanut butter,wheat, barley and corn. http://www.mold- survivor. com/t_2_mycotoxi n.html

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soupSunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The treatment is not as innocuous as it sounds. At least two people died from Simoncini's injections of baking soda. As far as I know no one was cured. Early claims of cure and associated testimony turned out to be bogus. Simoncini could likely kill some tumor cells by injecting baking soda into the blood supply to the tumor. You could do that with lots of things including alcohol, strong acids, almost anything that would destroy cellular equallibrium. This is not curing cancer. You could kill cancer cells by strilking a tumor with a baseball bat too, but it is not a cure for cancer.

I've personally packed moist baking soda on a large breast tumor which was erupting from the skin. This was long, direct contact. It did absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that the claims that direct contact of baking soda on bladder and bowel tumors will kill the tumor are fictitious. I won't pass judgement on the fellow claiming to have cured his metastasized cancer who is being very outspoken about it. If what he says about his own experience is true, he is one very lucky dude. It seems, though, that he is standing alone.

 

Mike--- On Sun, 5/24/09, shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > wrote:

shaman_urban <shaman_urban@ > Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soupSunday, May 24, 2009, 9:02 PM

 

 

Jim This is the opinion of Dr Simoncini and the one of his brother, both MD who lost theirs licenses insisting in curing people with an inexpensive product instead of Chemo. Why are they doing this ? I have no idea...I don't have personal opinion on what is Cancer...I am focusing only on what increase cancer cell proliferation or what can stop cancer or reverse cancer.To use a product that is almost innocuous is not criminal and deserve at least our attention. I am sure that you are aware of the case of Mr Vernom, so something it s worth to investigate because it is the first time that i heard of such a fast recovery from a cancer stage IV with skeletal metastasis.My wife is on a very alkaline diet and she is taking some bicarbonate of soda for her breast cancer.Note : she had for her entire life a 3 square inch of a sort of psoriasis on one of her elbow. By following two months the Iodine protocol of

Dr Simoncini the patch of psoriasis is gone.So at least on this one he is right.just my two cents..> Cancer is not a fungus. That is absurd. There may be some relationship between cancer cells and fungus, but cancer is not a fungus.

[Guest guest]

What sort of test do you have that shows if someone has aflatoxin in him or her?

 

 

oleander soup , Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:

>

> Hi, sorry got carried away but this is a great article that tells you how to

get rid of mold in food with vitamin C. it also says that -

> Aflatoxin

>         What is so important about molds? Some of them produce very, very

toxic chemicals wherever they grow. They produce some of the most toxic

chemicals known to exist. Aflatoxin is one of these. My tests show it is always

present in cancer patients; in other words it has built up due to the body's

inability to detoxify it in a reasonable time. A great deal of research has been

done on aflatoxin. 

> And that toxic mold gets in vinigar and I have all my Oleander in vinigar and

could not use brown bottles guess I maybe should put vitamin C  in the solution.

Would that hurt it?  

>  

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry, that was not my statement i forgot to put the site it came from, lol

 

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/moldy_food_and_aflotoxins.html

--- On Tue, 5/26/09, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 Re: CANCER IS A FUNGUS VIIDEOS AND iNTERVIEWSoleander soup Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 6:23 PM

 

 

What sort of test do you have that shows if someone has aflatoxin in him or her?oleander soup, Liz Clifton <free2roamliz@ ...> wrote:>> Hi, sorry got carried away but this is a great article that tells you how to get rid of mold in food with vitamin C. it also says that -> Aflatoxin> What is so important about molds? Some of them produce very, very toxic chemicals wherever they grow. They produce some of the most toxic chemicals known to exist. Aflatoxin is one of these. My tests show it is always present in cancer patients; in other words it has built up due to the body's inability to detoxify it in a reasonable time. A great deal of research has been done on

aflatoxin. > And that toxic mold gets in vinigar and I have all my Oleander in vinigar and could not use brown bottles guess I maybe should put vitamin C in the solution. Would that hurt it? >