Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Lyn, Where are you located? Your plea for help, list of symptoms, and your all-over-the-board self-help treatments leads me to believe that you need professional intervention. I appears that you are overwhelmed at this point in time of your life. You need a health care team to assist you. If you live in the USA, here's my suggestions: Find the best chiropractic physician that you can to handle the physical problems. Preferably one who has either one of the following specialties. 1. Diplomate of American Board of Chiropractic Internists (D.A.B.C.I) http://www.dabci.org/status.html OR 2. Diplomate of American Clinical Board of Nutrition (D.A.C.B.N) http://www.acbn.org/DiplomateHome.html Find a Naturopath who has similar qualifications. Add an excellent massage therapist. (Don't tell me you can't afford it. Barter, work for free, market for your professional. Do whatever it takes. Make it happen -- as if your life depended on it <grin>.) Use this team that you put together to help you cleanse your body, get rid of all toxins. It WILL BE HARD WORK, but you can do it. Heal the physical bio-mechanical problems. Nourish you body with proper, healing foods, herbs, and nutrients. Get a variety of and plenty of exercise. Lose weight. And get lots of sunshine. Keep us (this board) appraised of your progress. Above all, don't give up on learning and growing. Yours in health, Dr. Michael L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dr. Michael L,We live in the Northeast. You're right about needing a team. My current primary care doctor's office doesn't issue drugs unnecessarily, which is good, but they said to stop when I told them how much Vit. C I take daily, so on that note, I am looking for a replacementthat thinks more like the doctor (Dr. L) who is treating my hypothyroidism. He has approved the Vitamin C, which is additive free. He is an environmental doctor, and I feel the part of my health he is treating is safe with him. He doesn't discourage me from asking questions.My problem is remembering to tell him things that are important.What I need to do is get off the antidepressant I'm on for so many years, but I can't afford the $6,000.00 price tag for Neurotherapy. My insurance will cover some Neurotherapy sessions (Intake and neuotransmitter testing), but not the required commitment of 40 sessions I'm told I need. It's like a one-size-fits-all, and I don't think everyone needs 40 sessions. I won't give up looking for a therapist who will offer a more affordable package. I see Dr. L soon, and will talk about starting oral chelation that he mentioned because I can't afford IV Chelation.I've given up gluten, dairy (lactose), caffeine, soy (only recently) and replaced some supplements with additive-free ones. I go up and down with my situation because I haven't found the trigger that affects me. I am tired of the rollercoaster ride that pain takes me on. It drags me down, I'm forgetful, and know all of it is caused by something that can be stopped. I used to have so much energy. My husband eats anything and sees a doctor only for a physical.I can afford acupuncture, massage and a nutritionist, but also wonder about my silver fillings and my root-canals (4). I've had some pain under the root-canaled teeth, but my dentist says there's no problem. Researching it, I found out otherwise. He also says not much mercury comes out of my fillings anymore, but a nutritionist told me the mercury is still in me, and that's the problem. I've found a couple of area dentists that sound promising to see if one of them can take care of all my dental needs.Thank you, Dr. L, and to everyone who responded. I very much appreciate all your words of wisdom and support.Lyn. re_mlind <mlindoleander soup Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:56:02 PM Lyn Johns - Help Lyn, Where are you located? Your plea for help, list of symptoms, and your all-over-the- board self-help treatments leads me to believe that you need professional intervention. I appears that you are overwhelmed at this point in time of your life. You need a health care team to assist you. If you live in the USA, here's my suggestions: Find the best chiropractic physician that you can to handle the physical problems. Preferably one who has either one of the following specialties. 1. Diplomate of American Board of Chiropractic Internists (D.A.B.C.I) http://www.dabci. org/status. html OR 2. Diplomate of American Clinical Board of Nutrition (D.A.C.B.N) http://www.acbn. org/DiplomateHom e.html Find a Naturopath who has similar qualifications. Add an excellent massage therapist. (Don't tell me you can't afford it. Barter, work for free, market for your professional. Do whatever it takes. Make it happen -- as if your life depended on it <grin>.) Use this team that you put together to help you cleanse your body, get rid of all toxins. It WILL BE HARD WORK, but you can do it. Heal the physical bio-mechanical problems. Nourish you body with proper, healing foods, herbs, and nutrients. Get a variety of and plenty of exercise. Lose weight. And get lots of sunshine. Keep us (this board) appraised of your progress. Above all, don't give up on learning and growing. Yours in health, Dr. Michael L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Lyn, What type of antidepressant are you on and what have you been diagnosed with? Why would neuropathy be necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 ,The antidepressant is Maprotiline, which is the generic for Ludiomil. It is an old one, and it was brought up by one doctor why I don'tswitch to something more current. The reason: Current antidepressants cause multiple side effects. Maprotiline hasn't affected me with any side effects that have interfered with my life, ability to hold a demanding job and taking care of and raising a family. Initial diagnosis was called a chemical imbalance in my brain. Doctor said neurotransmitters in the brain such as norapenephrine, epenephrine (sp?)work like gears when they are in sync with one another, and mine weren't. My environmental doctor believes the thyroid has a lot to do with it, and he believes I've had an undiagnosed thyroid problem for years. He had another doctor in his office a few years ago who was my primary care provider. She tested me for hypothyroidism and said mythyroid was fine after I went to her many times for multiple issues. She literally labeled me someone who was just looking for attention, and finally after I fell asleep at the wheel one too many times, had a minor accident. I had no idea what was going on, was truly in some kind of fog. Dr. L. finally diagnosed the hypothyroidism. I'm on Armour Thyroid, 120 mg. in AM. I am not as tired, but am of late experiencing insomnia, lack of stamina and hip pain with pain in right shoulder and clavicle. Some information about neurotherapy I copied and pasted here from Wikipedia:A number of different brainwave goals have been proposed by different researchers in the field following on these general ideas. Usually, these goals are based upon extrapolations from research describing abnormal EEG patterns or on results from a quantitative EEG (QEEG - also known as brain mapping) upon the particular client being offered neurofeedback training. A popular goal is the increase of activity in the 12–18 Hz band (mu rhythm/ sensorimotor rhythm (SMR)) and a decrease in the 4–8 Hz and/or 22–28 Hz bands (theta and/or beta). The most common and well-documented use of neurofeedback is in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: multiple studies have shown neurofeedback to be useful in the treatment of ADHD [1] (Butnik 2005) (Masterpasqual et al. 2003). QEEG has been ambivalent with some studies showing that some forms of ADHD can be characterized by an abundance of slow brainwaves and a diminished quantity of fast wave activity (Butnik 2005); however, alternative patterns have also been described making the overall picture inconclusive at this time. Some approaches believe that neurofeedback training is best done when it seeks to teach individuals to produce more normalized EEG patterns that optimize their functioning.[citation needed] Some ADHD researchers are unconvinced by these studies, including the psychiatry professor and author of several books on ADHD, Russell Barkley. Barkely opines that neurotherapy's effectiveness in treating ADHD can be ascribed to either uncontrolled case studies or the placebo effect [2]. In return, neurofeedback advocates note that Barkely has received research funds and personal remuneration from drug giant Eli Lilly and Company and other drug companies [3] [4] [5]. Areas where neurofeedback has been researched include treatment of depression,substance abuse, anxiety, depression, epilepsy, OCD, learning disabilities, Bipolar Disorder, Conduct Disorder, anger and rage, cognitive impairment, migraines, headaches, chronic pain, autism spectrum disorders, sleep dysregulation, PTSD and MTBI. Other approaches to understanding and providing neurofeedback training use non-linear dynamical control processes and joint time-frequency analyses to characterize the ongoing dynamics of EEG during the training process itself. These approaches understand the functioning of the CNS in a more integrated or comprehensive fashion, including the structural ideas of the Russian neuropsychologist Luria and neuropsychiatrist Karl Pribram. Related technologies include hemoencephalography biofeedback (HEG).I think I'm going to focus on the oral chelation, my silver fillings and root canals while I still look for another neurotherapist morecompatible to our budget and insurance coverage. I thought neurotherapy sounded too controversial, never heard of it, that ourinsurance certainly wouldn't cover something I'd never heard of. If something works, you usually hear about it.Thank you for being here, !Lyn May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:43:07 PM Re: Lyn Johns - Help Lyn, What type of antidepressant are you on and what have you been diagnosed with? Why would neuropathy be necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Lyn, Were any tests done to verify that you have a chemical imbalance and the neurotransmitters are not working properly, or were you just told this? I would tend to agree with your environmental doctor. The thyroid has a lot to do with this type of disorder. Also, colloidal gold stabilizes chemical imbalances and works on the neurotransmitters in the brain, You may want to add this to your supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Lyn, Did you happen to go to the Clymer Clinic in PA? Rich In a message dated 5/25/2009 2:31:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rickslyn writes: ,Re. tests, that was long ago, but I remember hair analysis and blood work. I don't know how the doctor in PAcame up with the diagnosis otherwise.I'll read up on colloidal gold. I'm taking quite a few supplements, cut out some with magnesium stearate, stearic acid, silica, talc, etc., and want to eliminate the rest. My meds have these additives as well, and that goes along withBig Pharma and $$ rather than what's the right thing to do for patients. I will read up on colloidal gold. I will bring it up with my doctor early next month. ConsideringI have given up a lot of foods per dr's orders and taking supplements and still am having up and down problems, I'm so unsure. There's a trigger, but what is it? Thank you very much.Lyn May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:14:04 AM Re: Lyn Johns - Help Lyn, Were any tests done to verify that you have a chemical imbalance and the neurotransmitters are not working properly, or were you just told this? I would tend to agree with your environmental doctor. The thyroid has a lot to do with this type of disorder. Also, colloidal gold stabilizes chemical imbalances and works on the neurotransmitters in the brain, You may want to add this to your supplements. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 ,Re. tests, that was long ago, but I remember hair analysis and blood work. I don't know how the doctor in PAcame up with the diagnosis otherwise.I'll read up on colloidal gold. I'm taking quite a few supplements, cut out some with magnesium stearate, stearic acid, silica, talc, etc., and want to eliminate the rest. My meds have these additives as well, and that goes along withBig Pharma and $$ rather than what's the right thing to do for patients.I will read up on colloidal gold. I will bring it up with my doctor early next month. ConsideringI have given up a lot of foods per dr's orders and taking supplements and still am having up and down problems, I'm so unsure. There's a trigger, but what is it? Thank you very much.Lyn May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:14:04 AM Re: Lyn Johns - Help Lyn, Were any tests done to verify that you have a chemical imbalance and the neurotransmitters are not working properly, or were you just told this? I would tend to agree with your environmental doctor. The thyroid has a lot to do with this type of disorder. Also, colloidal gold stabilizes chemical imbalances and works on the neurotransmitters in the brain, You may want to add this to your supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 ,What's a good source for the colloidal gold?LynLyn Johns <rickslynoleander soup Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:07:15 PMRe: Re: Lyn Johns - Help ,Re. tests, that was long ago, but I remember hair analysis and blood work. I don't know how the doctor in PAcame up with the diagnosis otherwise.I'll read up on colloidal gold. I'm taking quite a few supplements, cut out some with magnesium stearate, stearic acid, silica, talc, etc., and want to eliminate the rest. My meds have these additives as well, and that goes along withBig Pharma and $$ rather than what's the right thing to do for patients.I will read up on colloidal gold. I will bring it up with my doctor early next month. ConsideringI have given up a lot of foods per dr's orders and taking supplements and still am having up and down problems, I'm so unsure. There's a trigger, but what is it? Thank you very much.Lyn May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:14:04 AM Re: Lyn Johns - Help Lyn, Were any tests done to verify that you have a chemical imbalance and the neurotransmitters are not working properly, or were you just told this? I would tend to agree with your environmental doctor. The thyroid has a lot to do with this type of disorder. Also, colloidal gold stabilizes chemical imbalances and works on the neurotransmitters in the brain, You may want to add this to your supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Hi Lyn, Utopia Silver is the best source. I believe they have a first time buyer offer where you get one free bottle for every 8 oz bottle ordered, but you must call to receive this offer. For reorders, just use Code LR001 and you will receive a 15% discount if it is not on sale. oleander soup , Lyn Johns <rickslyn wrote:>> ,> > What's a good source for the colloidal gold?> > Lyn> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Okay..... so to be clear, the doctor in PA made this diagnosis after looking at the result of those tests? I am being "nitpicky" because patients are automatically told they have a chemical imbalance whenever coming in with depression symptoms. Also, you may want to add plant derived trace minerals. Many times a lack of these minerals is what causes this chemical imbalance. Again, I only recommend the best and you can also get these from Utopia Silver. If you choose to do this, don't forget to use Code LR001 for a 15% discount. And, yep, there is a trigger. It may be "buried" and you may not recognize it. Start paying attention to your reaction to things. Study your emotions at any given time. With practice you will recognize them. Something else that is beneficial is the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT). http://www.emofree.com/ oleander soup , Lyn Johns <rickslyn wrote:>> ,> Re. tests, that was long ago, but I remember hair analysis and blood work. I don't know how the doctor in PA> came up with the diagnosis otherwise.> > I'll read up on colloidal gold. I'm taking quite a few supplements, cut out some with magnesium stearate, stearic > acid, silica, talc, etc., and want to eliminate the rest. My meds have these additives as well, and that goes along with> Big Pharma and $$ rather than what's the right thing to do for patients.> > > I will read up on colloidal gold. I will bring it up with my doctor early next month. Considering> I have given up a lot of foods per dr's orders and taking supplements and still am having up and down problems, I'm > so unsure. There's a trigger, but what is it?> > Thank you very much.> > Lyn> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 utopia makes good stuff, and mesogold from www.purestcolloids.com/mesogold.htm is supposed to be the other best one. with CGold there's lot's around that's made from chemical processes that leave undesireables in it, and it's important to deal with known reputable mfgrs like these two. there's good small timer makers too, but i don't know how to tell who's what. i look forward to trying CGold some day if i can ever get that far on my list. oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MayMonday, May 25, 2009 4:16 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Lyn Johns - Help Hi Lyn, Utopia Silver is the best source. I believe they have a first time buyer offer where you get one free bottle for every 8 oz bottle ordered, but you must call to receive this offer. For reorders, just use Code LR001 and you will receive a 15% discount if it is not on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Hi Lyn,From studying myself through the years, I believe that depression is the first to occur. Prolonged depression then creates the chemical imbalance. Our emotions can severeOoooooly affect our bodies in different ways. Actually, depression is nothing but sadness unaddressed, and many times depression results from keeping our feelings bottled up. We need an outlet. Depression ensues when we feel helpless to solve a particular situation. Thus, prolonged unhappiness = depression. Prolonged depression affects the physical body creating the chemical imbalance. However, don't despair. by taking care of oneself, physically and emotionally, everything can go back to normal, including the chemical imbalance. I'm glad that he also gave you vitamin supplements. This is highly unusual. What supplements did he give you if I may ask? However, antidepressants mask the condition, they do not heal it. The real healing comes in looking within oneself and start working on and solving deep seated issues, together with fortifying your body. It sounds as though the depression was a result of the move, and this is a very normal occurrence.In no way am I suggesting that you stop taking the antidepressats right now, as you would most likely need to be weaned off under professional supervision.I am sure health issues can arise from Candida. However, this is not my field of expertise. From what you describe, this depression is emotionally based.Bless your heart Lyn, I know of what you speak and I am here for you. Since this subject is a bit off topic for this forum, please feel free to email me privately and I will do my best to help and also help you gain understanding as to the depression. Many times, just simple understanding as to the "why's" leads to healing.My very best to you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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