Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?

[Guest guest]

Doomsday Scenario that is being ignore by the Conventional News Media!

 

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees

disappeared, " man would have only four years of life left "

 

 

 

from:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece

<http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece>

 

Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?

Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious

'colony

collapse' of bees

By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross

Published: 15 April 2007

 

It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some

scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive

food

shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

 

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile

phones

and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre

mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of

the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed

that

the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental

Europe -

was beginning to hit Britain as well.

 

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees'

navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding

their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now

evidence to back this up.

 

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly

disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so

many

apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die

singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally

raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go

anywhere near the abandoned hives.

 

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all

American

states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its

commercial

bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

 

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and

Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-keepers,

announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

 

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west

England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

insisted: " There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK. "

 

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops

depend

on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees

disappeared, " man would have only four years of life left " .

 

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides,

global

warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

 

German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power

lines.

 

Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to

return

to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who

carried it out, said this could provide a " hint " to a possible cause.

 

Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile

phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: " I am

convinced

the possibility is real. "

 

The case against handsets

 

Evidence of dangers to people from mobile phones is increasing. But

proof is

still lacking, largely because many of the biggest perils, such as cancer,

take decades to show up.

 

Most research on cancer has so far proved inconclusive. But an official

Finnish study found that people who used the phones for more than 10 years

were 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side as they

held the handset.

 

Equally alarming, blue-chip Swedish research revealed that radiation from

mobile phones killed off brain cells, suggesting that today's teenagers

could

go senile in the prime of their lives.

 

Studies in India and the US have raised the possibility that men who use

mobile phones heavily have reduced sperm counts. And, more prosaically,

doctors have identified the condition of " text thumb " , a form of RSI from

constant texting.

 

Professor Sir William Stewart, who has headed two official inquiries,

warned

that children under eight should not use mobiles and made a series of

safety

recommendations, largely ignored by ministers.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides,

global

warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

 

Do you know what the draw backs are?

Looking at the behavior and reproductive issues of many other species around the

world including humans is alarming, it is now reaching the high end of the food

chain and has been going on long before cell phones were even available within

less complicated species.

I think that it is important to see that this may be a part of the issue but the

issue is now coming to a head from a compiled array of things that have been

going on for many of years. I remember my second grade teacher telling us that

we will be the generation that will most likely see the mass effects of what has

been going on unless great changes are made and that was in the early 80's. We

have created even more things that are directly effecting the situation since

then.

Simply look at the infertility rates, cancer rates and the many other ills that

are at epidemic levels in our country that were virtually non existent in our

recent past.

 

This article is a good reminder to look at our selves and see how our daily

lives truly impact the world and to know that just one person can Do allot more

to help then what our culture give credit to.

Thanks for the post Domingo.

Blessings

Sam

 

Domingo Pichardo <dpichardo3 wrote:

Doomsday Scenario that is being ignore by the Conventional News Media!

 

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees

disappeared, " man would have only four years of life left "

 

from:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece

<http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece>

 

Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?

Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious

'colony

collapse' of bees

By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross

Published: 15 April 2007

 

It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some

scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive

food

shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

 

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile

phones

and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre

mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of

the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed

that

the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental

Europe -

was beginning to hit Britain as well.

 

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees'

navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding

their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now

evidence to back this up.

 

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly

disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so

many

apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die

singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally

raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go

anywhere near the abandoned hives.

 

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all

American

states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its

commercial

bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

 

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and

Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-keepers,

announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

 

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west

England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

insisted: " There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK. "

 

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops

depend

on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees

disappeared, " man would have only four years of life left " .

 

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides,

global

warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

 

German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power

lines.

 

Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to

return

to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who

carried it out, said this could provide a " hint " to a possible cause.

 

Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile

phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: " I am

convinced

the possibility is real. "

 

The case against handsets

 

Evidence of dangers to people from mobile phones is increasing. But

proof is

still lacking, largely because many of the biggest perils, such as cancer,

take decades to show up.

 

Most research on cancer has so far proved inconclusive. But an official

Finnish study found that people who used the phones for more than 10 years

were 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side as they

held the handset.

 

Equally alarming, blue-chip Swedish research revealed that radiation from

mobile phones killed off brain cells, suggesting that today's teenagers

could

go senile in the prime of their lives.

 

Studies in India and the US have raised the possibility that men who use

mobile phones heavily have reduced sperm counts. And, more prosaically,

doctors have identified the condition of " text thumb " , a form of RSI from

constant texting.

 

Professor Sir William Stewart, who has headed two official inquiries,

warned

that children under eight should not use mobiles and made a series of

safety

recommendations, largely ignored by ministers.

 

[Guest guest]

Sam, many other possibles causes have been proposed to explain the

phenomenon but this one seems to better address the mystery of why we

are unable to find the bodies of the dead worker bees anywhere near the

hive! The mechanism being proposed by this theory is that

electromagnetic radiation from wireless repeating stations (you've seen

these tree-like antennas springing up everywhere) are creating

interference in the bee's navigation system so they become disoriented

and cannot return to the hive... without food, the queen, drones and

larvae died of starvation and/or disease!

 

If we assume a higher perspective on this issue, we can consider the

Earth as a living entity and the biosphere as its outer physical

structure, then we can postulate that the artificial (human)

manipulation and restructuring of the environment is causing a

disruption in the natural flow of planetary Chi... Chi in this case

being defined as the organizing principle that joins together all life

forms(down to the cellular and subatomic level) and provides balance

between growth and decay in a continuous flux of change!

 

A lot of modern health issues are related to autoimmune disorder where

the body cannot recognize its own cells and attacks them causing

inflammation leading to arthritis and cardiovascular disease. Cancer is

characterized by uncontrolled cellular proliferation where the normal

growth/death cycle is disrupted. Viral diseases are characterized by a

disruption of the RNA/DNA " information " of the cells by a hijacking

agent. The point I am trying to make is that many disease conditions

that appear to be unrelated when considered individually maybe all

related(in principle) to the same information feedback disruption that

in the case of bees is manifested as an inability to recognize their own

homes.

 

I don't know how many TCM practitioners are familiar with the work of

Wilhelm Reich and his investigations into bioelectric energy which

he named " Orgone Energy " ! Bellow is a link to a full detailed article

on this and a short excerpt that I pasted here to give you an idea of

how similar its definition resembles the Taoist concept of Chi!

 

Love and Light,

Domingo

 

http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm

 

 

_Properties of Orgone -Energy

 

_ Orgone energy, the creative force in nature, is not a form of

electromagnetism nor of matter but is fundamental to both. It is the

specific life energy, but life is only one particular manifestation of

it. Our knowledge about it is partial and fragmentary in major respects,

and is no doubt in some measure erroneous. Nevertheless, a clear and

consistent picture of what orgone energy is and how it functions arises

from Reich's work. The following ten properties of orgone energy were

deduced by Reich.

 

1. _It is mass free_. Orgone energy itself has no inertia or weight;

i. e., it is mass free. This is one of the reasons it is difficult to

measure using conventional techniques. Mass is, however, intimately

dependent on the characteristics of the mass-free orgone energy field

with which all matter is surrounded. Measurements of weight or inertia

reflect the characteristics of this field as well as of the object

contained in it.

 

2. _It is present everywhere_. Orgone energy fills all space. It is

present in differing degrees or concentrations (or " charges " ) but is

nowhere absent. It is present in vacua, whether within the atmosphere or

in outer space. It is in this respect like the ether of pre-20th century

physics.

 

3. _It is the medium for electromagnetic and gravitational

phenomena_. Again, like the ether., orgone energy is the substratum of

the most fundamental natural phenomena. It is the medium in which light

moves and electromagnetic and gravitational fields exert force. One of

the major tasks of orgonomy is to integrate our knowledge of orgone

energy with the facts about those phenomena known to orthodox physics.

 

4. _It is in constant motion_. The continual motion of orgone energy

can be observed under appropriate conditions. There are at least two

characteristic types of motion, a pulsation or alternating expansion and

contraction, and a flow, normally along a curving path.

 

5. _It " contradicts " the law of entropy_. Orgone energy is attracted

to concentrations of orgone energy. Unlike heat or electricity, which

always show a direction from higher to lower potential, orgone energy

flows from lower orgonotic potential to higher. In a thermal system in

which outside energy is neither added nor subtracted, heat is lost by

hot objects or materials and absorbed by cool until everything within

the system is the same temperature. " Entropy increases " as the heat is

distributed more and more uniformly. Heat, after all, leaves the sun and

goes out into space; it does not collect from space and flow into the

sun. In the same way, a heater radiates heat into the room;

 

 

sam steffens wrote:

>

> No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides,

> global

> warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

>

> Do you know what the draw backs are?

> Looking at the behavior and reproductive issues of many other species

> around the world including humans is alarming, it is now reaching the

> high end of the food chain and has been going on long before cell

> phones were even available within less complicated species.

> I think that it is important to see that this may be a part of the

> issue but the issue is now coming to a head from a compiled array of

> things that have been going on for many of years. I remember my second

> grade teacher telling us that we will be the generation that will most

> likely see the mass effects of what has been going on unless great

> changes are made and that was in the early 80's. We have created even

> more things that are directly effecting the situation since then.

> Simply look at the infertility rates, cancer rates and the many other

> ills that are at epidemic levels in our country that were virtually

> non existent in our recent past.

>

> This article is a good reminder to look at our selves and see how our

> daily lives truly impact the world and to know that just one person

> can Do allot more to help then what our culture give credit to.

> Thanks for the post Domingo.

> Blessings

> Sam

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks I could not agree with you more. We have a farm where we raise animals

and grow many plants I am learning more about bio-dynamics and as a student

midwife I am seeing what you are saying every time I turn around. We live in the

country and recently went to someones house who lived under a power line. We

were there for only about a half hr. and on the way home my husband and I were

both greatly disturbed from the humming invasive energy of the power line. So

much so that we spent the rest of the afternoon feeling scattered and not really

able to do much but try to digest the experience.

I had asked the woman we were visiting about it later and she said that it was

hard for her for the first month but she got used to it and now she hardly

notices it. Thanks for the article

Sam

 

Domingo Pichardo <dpichardo3 wrote:

Sam, many other possibles causes have been proposed to explain the

phenomenon but this one seems to better address the mystery of why we

are unable to find the bodies of the dead worker bees anywhere near the

hive! The mechanism being proposed by this theory is that

electromagnetic radiation from wireless repeating stations (you've seen

these tree-like antennas springing up everywhere) are creating

interference in the bee's navigation system so they become disoriented

and cannot return to the hive... without food, the queen, drones and

larvae died of starvation and/or disease!

 

If we assume a higher perspective on this issue, we can consider the

Earth as a living entity and the biosphere as its outer physical

structure, then we can postulate that the artificial (human)

manipulation and restructuring of the environment is causing a

disruption in the natural flow of planetary Chi... Chi in this case

being defined as the organizing principle that joins together all life

forms(down to the cellular and subatomic level) and provides balance

between growth and decay in a continuous flux of change!

 

A lot of modern health issues are related to autoimmune disorder where

the body cannot recognize its own cells and attacks them causing

inflammation leading to arthritis and cardiovascular disease. Cancer is

characterized by uncontrolled cellular proliferation where the normal

growth/death cycle is disrupted. Viral diseases are characterized by a

disruption of the RNA/DNA " information " of the cells by a hijacking

agent. The point I am trying to make is that many disease conditions

that appear to be unrelated when considered individually maybe all

related(in principle) to the same information feedback disruption that

in the case of bees is manifested as an inability to recognize their own

homes.

 

I don't know how many TCM practitioners are familiar with the work of

Wilhelm Reich and his investigations into bioelectric energy which

he named " Orgone Energy " ! Bellow is a link to a full detailed article

on this and a short excerpt that I pasted here to give you an idea of

how similar its definition resembles the Taoist concept of Chi!

 

Love and Light,

Domingo

 

http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm

 

_Properties of Orgone -Energy

 

_ Orgone energy, the creative force in nature, is not a form of

electromagnetism nor of matter but is fundamental to both. It is the

specific life energy, but life is only one particular manifestation of

it. Our knowledge about it is partial and fragmentary in major respects,

and is no doubt in some measure erroneous. Nevertheless, a clear and

consistent picture of what orgone energy is and how it functions arises

from Reich's work. The following ten properties of orgone energy were

deduced by Reich.

 

1. _It is mass free_. Orgone energy itself has no inertia or weight;

i. e., it is mass free. This is one of the reasons it is difficult to

measure using conventional techniques. Mass is, however, intimately

dependent on the characteristics of the mass-free orgone energy field

with which all matter is surrounded. Measurements of weight or inertia

reflect the characteristics of this field as well as of the object

contained in it.

 

2. _It is present everywhere_. Orgone energy fills all space. It is

present in differing degrees or concentrations (or " charges " ) but is

nowhere absent. It is present in vacua, whether within the atmosphere or

in outer space. It is in this respect like the ether of pre-20th century

physics.

 

3. _It is the medium for electromagnetic and gravitational

phenomena_. Again, like the ether., orgone energy is the substratum of

the most fundamental natural phenomena. It is the medium in which light

moves and electromagnetic and gravitational fields exert force. One of

the major tasks of orgonomy is to integrate our knowledge of orgone

energy with the facts about those phenomena known to orthodox physics.

 

4. _It is in constant motion_. The continual motion of orgone energy

can be observed under appropriate conditions. There are at least two

characteristic types of motion, a pulsation or alternating expansion and

contraction, and a flow, normally along a curving path.

 

5. _It " contradicts " the law of entropy_. Orgone energy is attracted

to concentrations of orgone energy. Unlike heat or electricity, which

always show a direction from higher to lower potential, orgone energy

flows from lower orgonotic potential to higher. In a thermal system in

which outside energy is neither added nor subtracted, heat is lost by

hot objects or materials and absorbed by cool until everything within

the system is the same temperature. " Entropy increases " as the heat is

distributed more and more uniformly. Heat, after all, leaves the sun and

goes out into space; it does not collect from space and flow into the

sun. In the same way, a heater radiates heat into the room;

 

sam steffens wrote:

>

> No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides,

> global

> warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

>

> Do you know what the draw backs are?

> Looking at the behavior and reproductive issues of many other species

> around the world including humans is alarming, it is now reaching the

> high end of the food chain and has been going on long before cell

> phones were even available within less complicated species.

> I think that it is important to see that this may be a part of the

> issue but the issue is now coming to a head from a compiled array of

> things that have been going on for many of years. I remember my second

> grade teacher telling us that we will be the generation that will most

> likely see the mass effects of what has been going on unless great

> changes are made and that was in the early 80's. We have created even

> more things that are directly effecting the situation since then.

> Simply look at the infertility rates, cancer rates and the many other

> ills that are at epidemic levels in our country that were virtually

> non existent in our recent past.

>

> This article is a good reminder to look at our selves and see how our

> daily lives truly impact the world and to know that just one person

> can Do allot more to help then what our culture give credit to.

> Thanks for the post Domingo.

> Blessings

> Sam

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

AFAIK they are not being kept away - they are lost.

IE neural damage or at least neural malfunction.

I favor damage as predators shun the product.

 

No way would I eat it. I believe it is GMO pollen and we know they were warned

before they did it

as we have no experience with outcomes.

Monsanto should be held accountable for crimes against nature and humanity.

 

Electromagnetic radiation is handled about as carelessly as chemicals or

genes.

We have psychopathic personalities in charge and they by definition are

psychologically deficient.

They dont care. I am not convinced they can care.

 

Kirk

 

 

Gail Raby <graby wrote:

Seems like their are two separate issues here....

 

One: whats killing the bees

and how does the honey not being raided factor in -- is it a factor or

co-factor or another problem altogether. In other words, if its

radiation that keeps the bees

away, is it radiation that keeps the predators away also. Or is

[Guest guest]

It isnt worth the convenience.

Your muscle testing was correct.

 

If you need a mobile phone one installed in the car is the best compromise.

Beyond that - is it worth it?

I dont have a cell phone.

I dont have a microwave oven either.

 

Kirk

 

Jane MacRoss <HIGHFIELD wrote:

Funny you should say mobile phones could be made safer, Kirk - I currently

have a patient who tells me his brain tumour (now excised - but regrew

before the first surgery was healed) was due to over use of his mobile phone

and he told his Drs and his surgeons this and all he got was raised

eyebrows - he still uses one but says its a " special " type.

 

Here in Vic Oz they had 10 people working in an office two floors down from

a phone tower on the top of a city building all developed brain tumours -

" fortunately " (amazingly) they were able to " prove " that there was no

connection - there were more than 10 people working on that floor - an

amazingly high number tho eh?

 

I had a gold mesh device over the ear piece section of my own phone -

allegedly to reduce the waves or whatever they have - muscle testing

indicated it didn't make any difference ......... what do you recommend?

 

Jane

 

" Kirk McLoren "

>

> PS - electromagnetic radiation is dangerous and I am a retired aerospace

> engineer. I know some tales kept from the public. I do NOT own a cell

> phone.

> The sad thing is they could be made safer.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

There is no certifiable non GMO corn in the US. Once it is grown outdoors it is

loosed and spreads. For such things to be approved - incompetence.

The fact the parasites refuse the honey - that is not electromagnetic fields.

 

Also the pollen may pass to cousins of corn or whatever has been midified. If

I remember correectly there are grasses closely related to corn.

Monsanto is a dealer of death.

(And we dont know what the vector is. Could be a grass by now.)

 

Kirk

 

Domingo Pichardo <dpichardo3 wrote:

Moderator's Note: You raise good points about the missing bodies. That needs

some thought. But I also question the no-GMO fields.. Since GM can be spread by

natural forces such as wind, birds.. Bees??

Good debate, Domingo...

Misty