Any chinese herbs for Lyme disease?

November 9, 2006

My husband has been diagnosed with Lyme Disease. Does anyone have any

knowledge of any chinese products that could help him? Lyme is a

parasitic disease.

November 9, 2006

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " teri " <teri323 wrote:

>

> My husband has been diagnosed with Lyme Disease. Does anyone have

any

> knowledge of any chinese products that could help him? Lyme is a

> parasitic disease.

>

I don't really know that much about lyme disease other than it is a

rash usually caused by tic bites. I don't know how this relates to

chinese medicine, but teatree oil is supposed to have antibiotic

qualities when applied externally, and if I remember right, I think

garlic also has antibiotic properties when taken internally or

applied externally. I have heard that a clove of garlic equals an

adult dose of penicillin, but I don't know if that is true or not.

Mostly the medical community treats Lyme with antibiotics, so that

would be your best bet. I have also heard that colloidal silver

also has antibiotic properties. What this is is very small

(microscopic) bits of silver are suspended perminantly in water, and

what it supposedly does is surround the microbe and suffocate/starve

it to death. I would wonder about it taken internally because just

like any other broad spectrum antibiotic, it kills any microbe,

including the good ones. It would probably be better used

topically, but I don't know how well it works.

Sometimes though when it really comes down to it, it's good to use

modern medicine for certain cases of diseases, especially if the

disease fits well into germ theory, because they know exactly what

the germ is and how to kill it. That is of course unless you have

some sensitivity to antibiotics. Then you might want to look for an

alternative. Some good examples where you might want to use modern

medicine over TCM could be brochitis, pneumonia, or strep throat.

In these cases without antibiotic treatment, mortality rate is about

1 in 2 to 1 in 3, which is very significant. Where chinese medicine

fits better with these illnesses is in prevention, in keeping your

bdy strong enough so you don't get them, but once you do get them

antibiotics become more plausible.

here is a list of some of the potential side effects if lyme disease

goes to far or is not treated properly:

If Lyme disease isn't treated, it can spread to other parts of the

body. The symptoms of late Lyme disease include arthritis (painful,

swollen joints) and nervous system problems. Lyme arthritis often

affects only one of the large joints, such as the knee. Sometimes it

may affect more than one joint. The symptoms of the nervous system

disorder caused by late Lyme disease may include trouble

concentrating, loss of memory, muscle weakness, and tingling and

numbness in the arms and legs. However, Lyme disease rarely causes

such nervous system problems.

If you understand these risks, and want to try something more

natural in the mean time, I would say go for it. Just if the

disease does not respond very well, it might be good to get modern

medical attention. It also might be good to try these things in

addition to say a typical 10 to 30 day antibiotic treatment. That's

probably what I would suggest. I hope it helps you out, and good

luck with your husband getting better.

November 9, 2006

Hi, Teri:

Here is a good place to begin your search:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/lyme.htm

Subhuti Dharmananda is a well - known writer about

classical Chinese medicine, as opposed to TCM.

Kind regards, Jack

--- teri <teri323 wrote:

> My husband has been diagnosed with Lyme Disease.

> Does anyone have any

> knowledge of any chinese products that could help

> him? Lyme is a

> parasitic disease.

>

November 9, 2006

Hi.

I've got a patient suffering from Lyme but he prefered to perform an usual

treatment not TCM. Here u got some links and a copy from a msg written by Bob

Linde about it.

Best, Roberta

http://www.canlyme.com/

www.dr-zhang.com

www.acuherbals.com

" Hi Roberta,

This is one of the harder problems to treat from both a medical and a

herbal approach. The trick is to kill the parasite and also to protect

the qi. This is a case where a healing crisis will most certainly occur

as the systemic parasite dies....similar to Candida. There are many

ways that Lymes can manifest but usually with a rash, pain and

fatigue...dampness is often present. I am a big fan of treating what you see.

There are a number of choices for killing the parasite if this is not

being done with drugs, Qing hao, Huang Lian, huang bai, huang qin, bie xie

are good ones to look at but all can damage the spleen qi, Also as

parasite- healing crisis begins to happen look to blood movers to flush out

the toxic reaction something in the ...zhu yu tong family. To support

the qi I like Bu zhong yi qi wan, but it sounds like there may be some

cold or def yang present so think about you qui wan or golden book tea.

From western herbal approach think about black walnut, Pau d arco,

calumus root, yellow dock, sage, rosemary and thyme....

This is a tough one to treat, often times the parasite weakens the

immune system so that other diseases of opportunity invade making it more

complex. It is also a long term treatment form 6 months to 1-2 years for

success. Of course protecting the spleen qi with diet goes along way as

well.

Good luck...let me know what you use and your success,

Bob "

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teri

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:05 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Any chinese herbs for Lyme disease?

My husband has been diagnosed with Lyme Disease. Does anyone have any

knowledge of any chinese products that could help him? Lyme is a

parasitic disease.

November 10, 2006

wow, don't know when I wrote that but still sounds right....I also know that

David Winston of Alchemists Herbalists has done some extensive research in this

area (he is in NJ). He recommends the antibiotic treatments in conjunction with

western/chinese herbal combo that he has formulated over time. I don't remember

his website but google him and he will come up. He is tops in the herbal field

in my mind.

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

Roberta Blanco <robertablanco wrote: