Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hello, My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 hours aweek. The problem is, she is standing all the time. When she gets to the home. she is very tired(understandably) and in very much pain. The pain is in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for pain(first) then help to ease condition? Thank you, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " grman53 " <grman53 wrote: > > Hello, > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 hours aweek. The > problem is, she is standing all the time. When she gets to the home. > she is very tired(understandably) and in very much pain. The pain is > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for pain(first) then > help to ease condition? > > Thank you, > Rick >Hi Rick, Lavender oil is great for all kinds of pain, joints, muscles and even helps prevent blistering & scarring of burns. Rubbing Lavender oil into your mums joints should bring her some welcome relief. Oh, & 80 years old & still active, you go girl, good luck, bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Wouldn't an arthritis joint formula work for her? Have you tried that? With MSM. You take it twice a day. Liz D. - grman53<grman53 Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:04 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] osteo-arthritis Hello, My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 hours aweek. The problem is, she is standing all the time. When she gets to the home. she is very tired(understandably) and in very much pain. The pain is in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for pain(first) then help to ease condition? Thank you, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Liz. Thank you for your response. She has been to various western doctors(doesn't really buy into the eastern philosophies yet). We tried msm before to no avail. I ahve bought her books on simple yoga asanas and tried to work with her diet. she never did much about it.(sometimes, moms can be set in their own ways) maybe she will now. I'd like to get her some relief. I also mentioned accupuncture, she said that that wouldn't help(defeated already) I'll keep working on it. Thanks again, Rick --- Elizabeth Dettrey <mytidbits wrote: > Wouldn't an arthritis joint formula work for her? > Have you tried that? With MSM. You take it twice a > day. > > Liz D. > > - > grman53<grman53 > To: > Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:04 AM > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] osteo-arthritis > > > Hello, > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 > hours aweek. The > problem is, she is standing all the time. When she > gets to the home. > she is very tired(understandably) and in very much > pain. The pain is > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for > pain(first) then > help to ease condition? > > Thank you, > Rick > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi, Thank you for the idea. Do I need a carrier oil with that? Rick --- igcottrill <igcottrill wrote: > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " grman53 " > <grman53 wrote: > > > > Hello, > > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 > hours aweek. The > > problem is, she is standing all the time. When she > gets to the home. > > she is very tired(understandably) and in very much > pain. The pain is > > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for > pain(first) then > > help to ease condition? > > > > Thank you, > > Rick > >Hi Rick, Lavender oil is great for all kinds of > pain, joints, muscles > and even helps prevent blistering & scarring of > burns. Rubbing > Lavender oil into your mums joints should bring her > some welcome > relief. Oh, & 80 years old & still active, you go > girl, good luck, bye. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Rick: you might want to try some of the medicated plasters available from China. These come in different varieties for various afflictions. Some may carry a heavy odour, but otherwise maybe mom wouldn't mind them. Kind regards, Jack --- rick sangrey <grman53 wrote: > Hi Liz. > Thank you for your response. She has been to various > western doctors(doesn't really buy into the eastern > philosophies yet). We tried msm before to no avail. > I > ahve bought her books on simple yoga asanas and > tried > to work with her diet. she never did much about > it.(sometimes, moms can be set in their own ways) > maybe she will now. I'd like to get her some relief. > I also mentioned accupuncture, she said that that > wouldn't help(defeated already) I'll keep working on > it. > > Thanks again, > Rick > > > --- Elizabeth Dettrey <mytidbits wrote: > > > Wouldn't an arthritis joint formula work for her? > > Have you tried that? With MSM. You take it twice > a > > day. > > > > Liz D. > > > > - > > grman53<grman53 > > To: > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:04 AM > > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] osteo-arthritis > > > > > > Hello, > > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 > > hours aweek. The > > problem is, she is standing all the time. When > she > > gets to the home. > > she is very tired(understandably) and in very > much > > pain. The pain is > > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do > for > > pain(first) then > > help to ease condition? > > > > Thank you, > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , rick sangrey <grman53 wrote: > > Hi, > Thank you for the idea. Do I need a carrier oil with > that? > Rick > No mate no need for carrier oils. Lavender oil is fine on it's own. I was diagnosed with chronic arthritis when I was in my late 20's. I have taken nothing. I have used only meditation, visualization, Reiki & oils. I am 43 now & I am totally pain free & have been for 7 years. I am also very active in sport, & also do Aikido & traditional Yang Style Tai Chi. It can be done, I'm walking proof. See ya !!! > --- igcottrill <igcottrill wrote: > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " grman53 " > > <grman53@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about 20 > > hours aweek. The > > > problem is, she is standing all the time. When she > > gets to the home. > > > she is very tired(understandably) and in very much > > pain. The pain is > > > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do for > > pain(first) then > > > help to ease condition? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Rick > > >Hi Rick, Lavender oil is great for all kinds of > > pain, joints, muscles > > and even helps prevent blistering & scarring of > > burns. Rubbing > > Lavender oil into your mums joints should bring her > > some welcome > > relief. Oh, & 80 years old & still active, you go > > girl, good luck, bye. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hi again, Again thanks for the input. i'm going to suggest more eastern ways to her. maybe she'll do something. can't make her eh? Also, do you know of any relief for MS. I think it is multiple sclerosis? my sister-in-law is suffering from it. she is 50 something(haven't met her yet, new to family and lives distant)she can move without wheel chair but her legs tire easily. also some problems with hands. any thoughts? thanks, Rick --- igcottrill <igcottrill wrote: > Chinese Traditional Medicine , rick sangrey > <grman53 > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Thank you for the idea. Do I need a carrier oil > with > > that? > > Rick > > No mate no need for carrier oils. Lavender oil is > fine on it's own. > I was diagnosed with chronic arthritis when I was in > my late 20's. I > have taken nothing. I have used only meditation, > visualization, > Reiki & oils. I am 43 now & I am totally pain free & > have been for 7 > years. I am also very active in sport, & also do > Aikido & > traditional Yang Style Tai Chi. It can be done, I'm > walking proof. > See ya !!! > > --- igcottrill <igcottrill wrote: > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " grman53 " > > > <grman53@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about > 20 > > > hours aweek. The > > > > problem is, she is standing all the time. When > she > > > gets to the home. > > > > she is very tired(understandably) and in very > much > > > pain. The pain is > > > > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do > for > > > pain(first) then > > > > help to ease condition? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Rick > > > >Hi Rick, Lavender oil is great for all kinds of > > > pain, joints, muscles > > > and even helps prevent blistering & scarring of > > > burns. Rubbing > > > Lavender oil into your mums joints should bring > her > > > some welcome > > > relief. Oh, & 80 years old & still active, you > go > > > girl, good luck, bye. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hi Jack, thank you, are the plasters available on line? Rick --- Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > Rick: > > you might want to try some of the medicated plasters > available from China. These come in different > varieties for various afflictions. Some may carry a > heavy odour, but otherwise maybe mom wouldn't mind > them. > > Kind regards, Jack > > --- rick sangrey <grman53 wrote: > > > Hi Liz. > > Thank you for your response. She has been to > various > > western doctors(doesn't really buy into the > eastern > > philosophies yet). We tried msm before to no > avail. > > I > > ahve bought her books on simple yoga asanas and > > tried > > to work with her diet. she never did much about > > it.(sometimes, moms can be set in their own ways) > > maybe she will now. I'd like to get her some > relief. > > I also mentioned accupuncture, she said that that > > wouldn't help(defeated already) I'll keep working > on > > it. > > > > Thanks again, > > Rick > > > > > > --- Elizabeth Dettrey <mytidbits wrote: > > > > > Wouldn't an arthritis joint formula work for > her? > > > Have you tried that? With MSM. You take it > twice > > a > > > day. > > > > > > Liz D. > > > > > > - > > > grman53<grman53 > > > To: > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > > > > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:04 AM > > > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] osteo-arthritis > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > My mother is 80 yrs old and still works about > 20 > > > hours aweek. The > > > problem is, she is standing all the time. When > > she > > > gets to the home. > > > she is very tired(understandably) and in very > > much > > > pain. The pain is > > > in her knees and hip creases. What can she do > > for > > > pain(first) then > > > help to ease condition? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " igcottrill " <igcottrill wrote: > > I was diagnosed with chronic arthritis when I was in my late 20's. I > have taken nothing. I have used only meditation, visualization, > Reiki & oils. I am 43 now & I am totally pain free & have been for 7 > years. I am also very active in sport, & also do Aikido & > traditional Yang Style Tai Chi. It can be done, I'm walking proof. > See ya !!! One thing I want to point out for the list members who are new to TCM is that Tai Chi or Qi Gong exercises are particularly good for getting Qi and Blood moving properly. When Qi and Blood stagnate, pain can result. When Qi and Blood flow properly, pain disappears. There are herbs for getting Qi and Blood to move properly. Acupressure and acupuncture also can help Qi and Blood to move properly. So can massage. So can certain chiropractic treatments in cases where misalignment is a big factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , rick sangrey <grman53 wrote: > > Also, > do you know of any relief for MS. I think it is > multiple sclerosis? my sister-in-law is suffering from > it. she is 50 something(haven't met her yet, new to > family and lives distant)she can move without wheel > chair but her legs tire easily. also some problems > with hands. > any thoughts? > thanks, There are some posts on MS (Multiple Sclerosis) in the message base. Seaching for MS or sclerosis should bring them up. MS frequently will have a Root of Damp-Phlegm with Spleen Deficiency or Liver and Kidney Deficiency. A trained TCM healer will be able to diagnose which TCM imbalances are present. One of the most surprising things about TCM to many Westerners is that a particular Western-defined medical condition can have different TCM Roots. For example, asthma can have one or more of over a dozen different TCM Roots. Some of them aren't even in the Lungs but in the Kidneys or Liver or Large Intestine or Stomach. This is why treatment that helps one asthmatic may do nothing for a second and can even make a third sicker. The underlying TCM Roots are different. People with the same disease can have different underlying imblances and thus, the treatments will differ. People with different diseases can have the same TCM imbalance(s), and the treatment will be the same. What TCM healers diagnose and treat are TCM imbalances. Properly trained TCM healers won't take a Western diagnosis. They'll consider it, but they won't base the TCM diagnosis on it. One of the biggest surprises to many Westerners when they see a TCM healer for the first time and relate that they have such-and-such medical condition is that the healer will respond with something like " I don't know what that means " or " What are your symptoms? " . It's usually not that the healer is unfamiliar with the Western term but that it doesn't give the healer enough info. There can be variation in symptoms of the same Western-defined condition. Gastritis is a good example. A TCM healer is going to want to know if the pain is worse immediately after heating, an hour or more after eating, or if it's relieved by eating. Each of these will point to a different underlying TCM imbalance. Phlegm disorders can take a long time to treat and must involve lifestyle changes, but they can be treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 im a second hear TCM student, working in health care. all of my MS clients seem to have significant spleen and yin deficiencies. - " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Monday, October 16, 2006 9:10 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: osteo-arthritis > Chinese Traditional Medicine , rick sangrey <grman53 > wrote: >> >> Also, >> do you know of any relief for MS. I think it is >> multiple sclerosis? my sister-in-law is suffering from >> it. she is 50 something(haven't met her yet, new to >> family and lives distant)she can move without wheel >> chair but her legs tire easily. also some problems >> with hands. >> any thoughts? >> thanks, > > There are some posts on MS (Multiple Sclerosis) in the message > base. Seaching for MS or sclerosis should bring them up. > > MS frequently will have a Root of Damp-Phlegm with Spleen Deficiency > or Liver and Kidney Deficiency. A trained TCM healer will be able to > diagnose which TCM imbalances are present. > > One of the most surprising things about TCM to many Westerners is > that a particular Western-defined medical condition can have > different TCM Roots. For example, asthma can have one or more of > over a dozen different TCM Roots. Some of them aren't even in the > Lungs but in the Kidneys or Liver or Large Intestine or Stomach. > This is why treatment that helps one asthmatic may do nothing for a > second and can even make a third sicker. The underlying TCM Roots > are different. > > People with the same disease can have different underlying imblances > and thus, the treatments will differ. People with different > diseases can have the same TCM imbalance(s), and the treatment will > be the same. What TCM healers diagnose and treat are TCM imbalances. > > Properly trained TCM healers won't take a Western diagnosis. > They'll consider it, but they won't base the TCM diagnosis on it. > One of the biggest surprises to many Westerners when they see a TCM > healer for the first time and relate that they have such-and-such > medical condition is that the healer will respond with something > like " I don't know what that means " or " What are your symptoms? " . > It's usually not that the healer is unfamiliar with the Western term > but that it doesn't give the healer enough info. There can be > variation in symptoms of the same Western-defined condition. > Gastritis is a good example. A TCM healer is going to want to know > if the pain is worse immediately after heating, an hour or more > after eating, or if it's relieved by eating. Each of these will > point to a different underlying TCM imbalance. > > Phlegm disorders can take a long time to treat and must involve > lifestyle changes, but they can be treated. > > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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