Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The view from the other side... why can't they just accept the TCM model which has been tried and true for thousands of years? When you read this you sense the answer: Money and Power... since they know they can't stop it they are going Americanize it and bring it under the AMA Cartel! http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/99/105311.htm?pagenumber=3 Scientists Seek Clues for Acupuncture's Success 1 | 2 | 3 Part 1: Biofeedback Trains Mind, Body Part 2: Meditation Balances the Body's Systems Part 4: Hypnosis: Focusing on Change The Science Behind Acupuncture According to Chinese traditional medicine, acupuncture affects the life force called " chi. " More than 2000 acupuncture points in the body are connected by meridians, or pathways, through which energy must pass freely for optimal wellness. Disturbances in this flow result in illness or dysfunction. Over the years, research has shown that acupuncture affects a variety of biological systems -- releasing hormones, disabling receptors, and activating anti-inflammatory chemicals. It has been suggested that the Integrative Medicine Home Page healing power of acupuncture comes from its effect on the nervous system. It might aid the pain-killing effect of chemicals called endorphins or help cells from the immune system fight infection, according to the NIH. Intricate networks of connective tissue -- which extend throughout the body -- may be at the crux of acupuncture, according to other studies. It's evident when an acupuncture needle is inserted into the body. Like a fork in a plate of spaghetti, the needle grabs up tiny bits of connective tissue and nerve bundles between muscles. How Well Are You Managing Your Epilepsy? Find Out With This Quiz The body's pull on that tissue is intense, which both the practitioner and the patient can feel, says Wayne. " That needle is being held by the body, it gets sucked in. If you turn the needle a little bit, it is grasped by the body, the body doesn't want to let go, " Wayne explains. The turning and manipulation of that needle instantly affects the connective tissue in its plane -- including more distant points in the plane. All this has been documented using high resolution ultrasound, Wayne says. Acupuncture is not mainstream yet, Wayne tells WebMD. " But a lot of progress has been made. Some of that is because of credibility gained from clinical trials. The continued momentum of consumer usage and satisfaction has driven a lot of the research. People are using acupuncture, spending money on it, and they have some valid questions whether this is the best use of their resources. " Acupuncturists are better trained today than they were in the past, he adds. " They're trained in a way that they can integrate better with conventional medicine. They can speak articulately about research going on and limitations of that research. It legitimizes what we do in a way that makes sense. " Bottom Line: Finding an Acupuncturist If you're interested in trying acupuncture, be sure to tell your doctor first. People with bleeding problems, an active infection, and other health problems aren't advised to try it. To find a certified acupuncturist, your doctor may be able to help. Friends may have suggestions. Check with major academic medical centers. Check with the American Academy of Medical Acupuncturists. A qualified acupuncturist gets thousands of hours of training. A physician with acupuncture training, however, gets only 200 hours or so of training. " There's a big difference, " says Wayne. A qualified acupuncturist will be licensed through state and national boards. Ask the practitioner about his or her years of clinical experience -- that also makes a difference. With increasing studies of acupuncture, it's been shown that safety " is phenomenally good, " Wayne tells WebMD. " The adverse effects are very, very low with a trained acupuncturist. Some conditions where licensed acupuncturist would know what they can and can't do. In pregnant women, there are certain areas you wouldn't touch. But safety is the first thing you're taught, " he says. Published Jan. 24, 2005. Medically updated March 2006. SOURCES: Peter Wayne, PhD, director of research at the New England School of Acupuncture. WebMD Medical News: " Acupuncture Entering the Mainstream. " WebMD Feature: " The Ancient Art of Infertility Treatment. " WebMD Feature: " Acupuncture May Help Chemotherapy Side Effects. " WebMD Feature: " Why Acupuncture Works. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The view from the other side... why can't they just accept the TCM model which has been tried and true for thousands of years? When you read this you sense the answer: Money and Power... since they know they can't stop it they are going Americanize it and bring it under the AMA Cartel! http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/99/105311.htm?pagenumber=3 Scientists Seek Clues for Acupuncture's Success MT: LOL! i usually get irritated by the attempts to " explain " acupuncture. " qi " is always PRESUPPOSED to be an " explanatory fiction. " use occam's razor, people. the needles are " grabbling intricately connected pieces of connective tissue " !? puhLEEZE. despite the fact that newtonian materialism has been discredited, people still cling to it. www.orgone.org is one good site on the " ether " of " fluid dynamics " model. all matter is really energy. all energy is not matter. mercurius trismegistus scientific " knowledge " is not even possible, as the empirical method only functions to DISPROVE previous theories. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415278449/sr=1-1/qid=1156194849/ref=pd_bbs_1/1\ 02-9777456-9930532?ie=UTF8 & s=books The Logic of Scientific Discovery (Routledge Classics) (Paperback) by Karl R. Popper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > The view from the other side... why can't they just accept the TCM model > which has been tried and true for thousands of years? This post reminded me of a converstaion I had when I was young with my father. I asked him " Acchan - how do we know what is true? There are so many opinions and many seem to be contradictions. " - he answered " We can not know - all opinions are just that - opinions. Lao Tsu said 'the Tao that can be named is not the true Tao'. All attempts to 'conceptualize' reality will be limited because the human mind is only dealing from an individual perspective - and the 'one' is not visible to our analysis. We percieve through our senses and the mind all of which are limited in their realm of perceptions. So there is no absolute religion - philosophy - or science - each and every person has their own religion - philosophy - or science. None are greater than others. It is not through mind (logic, reasoning, analysis) that we live our lives - it is through our good instincts that we live successful lives - it is the choices based on our instincts that determine what we do as opposed to what we think. If you have good instincts you have a good chance to make good choices this will determine your success in life not your intellect. Many great logicians have dysfunctional lives and many uneducated people (that might never analyze anything)who have good instincts may live healthy happy lives. Many people think 'I have a greater logic and rationale than you therfore I am better than you' - this is illogical and irrational - it is not supported by the observable facts. Anytime you hear or read someone elses opinions simply realize this is one perspective do not put it up or down see everything as equal and personal. There can never be any absolute in religion - philosophy -or science - these things are evoloving with us as we move along as individuals and as a species. " Karl Popper's perspective is just a perspective just as the science that he criticizes is a perspective - just as those who criticize Popper are also simply stating their personal perspectives - reality is the inclusion of these many perspectives along with the infinite number of things we do not know. Perspectives should be put in perspective - when we read or hear other's opinions - we either agree - disagree - or we are uninterested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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