Infant with reflux

[Guest guest]

Hallo,

 

I cant offer any tcm help as I am very much a learner myself but I do

have an observation to offer as a retired midwife of many years.

 

Common practice wherever I have worked is to weigh the baby at birth

and again at 6 days old. This is to check that the baby has not lost

too much weight, though it is considered normal for babies to lose up

to 10% of their birthweight within the first week of life.

Your grandchilds weight gain of over a pound in the first week of

life seems amazing to me and I cant recall ever coming across such a

weight gain before. Now the baby is one month old and weighs 10

pounds. So baby is putting on nearly a pound a week. This is just

an observation as this might be quite normal in the part of the world

and culture you are from. But if this problem was presented to any

midwives that I have ever practised with, the first thing they would

suspect, looking at the weight gain, is overfeeding. But of course

this may be the weight gain is an effect of what is wrong with baby

not the cause.

 

Still, in my experience, babies are expected to have an intial weight

loss after birth and then start to gain weight, so by the time they

are one week old they are usually below or just at their birth

weight.

 

Hope this can be of some help

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

If the child is nursing I would suspect something about the mothers

milk is not acceptable - high acidic states in the mother can cause

the PH of the milk to be to acidic - this is phlegm forming for the

infant. High phlegm conditions in the mother can be transferred to the

child. In that case the mother should see a TCM authority and correct

her own problems for the benefit of her child.

 

If the child is taking formula in the bottle but who looks like she is

healthy but has all of these phlegm issues she might also be allergic

to what is being given - many children are allergic to the milk from

cows - many formulas contaning soy products cause allergic reactions

in many children - in my opinion children should not be given these

powdered formula mixes. Things to try to see if this is the case is to

give the child either organic milk from grass fed cows or organic

goats milk - this will reveal if this is a gross allergy to something

being fed.

 

If the problem continues the child should be under the care of an

expert - having high levels of phlegm are not innocent and should be

corrected.

 

Bob Flaws and Honora Wolfe have written extensively in TCM pediatrics.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Susan.

 

This is why it's important to have a variety of different healers from

different backgrounds on here. Each has different areas of expertise,

and as a result, a very comprehensive picture emerges of possibilities.

[Guest guest]

thanks susan,because youae a midwife i wonder if you would know if the fact

that mom was induced with pitocin may have a bearing on this. I had a passing

thought that overfeeding was a possibility,but it passed and I never

addressed it because each time she eats she brings much of it back up . What

seems

more congruet with the situation to me is vinod's comments about the mom's

milk. She has alwys suffered with excess phlegm.

Thank you all so much for your input. It is very much appreciated

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have never come across any connection between induction of labour and

feeding problems of any kind. Induction is very common so would expect

to see many problems such as you are having in the community.

 

Do you have access to any midwife/community/health visitor support for

advice etc. Some countries provide a great deal of support for the

first few weeks after the birth so the new mum has plenty of help when

needed. Who weighs the baby and are there midwives there?

 

I agree that if the mother has phlegm then this could be causing the

problems. However, you mention vomiting and that baby brings much of

the food back up, but I would expect this baby to be losing weight if

there was a lot of vomiting, or at least the weight being static. The

weight gain, plus wet and dirty nappies, points to baby thriving.

 

Wishing you all well

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3 wrote:

>

> If the child is nursing I would suspect something about the mothers

> milk is not acceptable - high acidic states in the mother can cause

> the PH of the milk to be to acidic - this is phlegm forming for the

> infant. High phlegm conditions in the mother can be transferred to the

> child. In that case the mother should see a TCM authority and correct

> her own problems for the benefit of her child.

 

My oldest son was colicky when very young and would get worse when I

had anything chocolate. My younger son would react when I ate

tomatoes. So if she's nursing, her food will very much affect her milk.

 

sue

[Guest guest]

The baby is conpletely breast fed , except for the med's and the tea. Vinod

recommended goat milk. We have goats here on our land, how would one treat

fresh goat milk for consumption?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/2006 7:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

fatrose writes:

 

However, you mention vomiting and that baby brings much of

the food back up, but I would expect this baby to be losing weight if

there was a lot of vomiting, or at least the weight being static. The

weight gain, plus wet and dirty nappies, points to baby thriving.

 

Wishing you all well

 

Susan

 

 

 

precisely, baby is thriving. She seems unable to handle the milk. perhaps it

is the phlegm. Mom's diet is okay it may not have been previously but

currently it is fine.. Midwives delivered the baby, and she see's a pediatrician

for her check up.