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Hello everyone I would like those of you so incline to share their insights

on this situation with me, The child involved is my granddaughter, She turned

1 month old this past Sunday. She was experiencing lots of bloating, very

difficult and painful to expel gas, evidenced by beet red face, clenched fists,

stiffly outstretched limbs, awful crying, grunting and screeches of pain,

powerful expulsions of gas after much exertion, hiccups, vomiting, while

nursing, after being nursed and burped, and while lying down. The vomiting

sometimes contained a lot of mucous, sometimes would be a little curdled, and on

3

occasions had been projectile, mostly mucous, clear and slimy, mixed with the

milk of course,reminicent of nasal discharge. Baby is hungry and wants to eat,

very frustrated, but continues to thrive, birthweight was just under 7 lbs.

1 week later later she was 8 lb., and yesterday thurs.7/27, she was 10 lbs.

Baby has to be watched all the time because the mucous would come just to the

back of the throat and not come out effort to remove with aspirator were less

then successful and caused her to gag. I just try to get as much as I can out

with a finger when that happens but more often than not she ends up

swallowing it. Overall she did not have the demeanor of a sick child, but I was

worried because I know this much mucous is not a good thing, she also had it

pooling in the corners of her eyes. So I had her Mom take fenugreek in hopes

that

it would clear the mucous up. Mom was on the fenugreek about 4 days and it

seemed like it was making the mucous more available to the baby, vomiting

became more frequent, and gagging on unexpectorated mucous did as well so I had

Mom stop taking it. It seems that the mucous would keep building for a week

before baby's diminished capacity to contain it caused it to be violently

expelled. My daughter and I are groggy with sleep trying to keep vigil to make

sure nothing happens to the baby and my daughter is growing more anxious about

the whole thing because it is not resolving as easily as I have led her to

believe it would. Massage and acupressure help a great with calming the baby,

who is quite agitated as well and young as she is has undergone a personality

change because of all this discomfort. Desperate for some relief for all

three us I decided to use inula helenum. It is a cooling expectorant with

downward Qi. It lessened the amount of times she vomited, and brought up mucous

more

easily, but of course the problem continued. I fashioned a belly band for

her, to support her stomach muscles and prevent a hernia from all the straining

she does. She is on medication now, as outlined below. my question to the

group is how to characterize this from the TCM standpoint, differentiation, my

guess is damp heat in the lowerburner. but how did this happen to a brand new

baby, Should I discontinue herbal treatments in favor of allopathic meds? It

has just been one day but she looks lethargic now. What recommendations and

advice can you give to us? I am most appreciative of any and all help.

Rabiah

Her first week home from the hospital was normal and uneventful, she nursed,

burped and slept, normally. The second week is when the vomiting and gas

started. We thought it was normal at first, then we assumed colic. I had Mom

change her diet, no dairy, no cruciferous veggies and gave baby dilute infusion

of anise or fennel. But this didn't help enough to ease our concerns. we took

her to the doctor who said the he could hear a lot of gas in her stomach,

was normal and was reflux told us to change mom's diet as mentioned above and

come back in a week. That week was up yesterday and they prescribed zantac,

for the gas, and metoclopram to help baby's muscles operate in sync.

 

My daughter is 21 yrs, this is her first child. She has a history of asthma,

allergies, and excess mucous, always feeling that mucous is just in the back

of her throat. Her tongue is usually white fur and wet, no lines or other

marks.

 

Baby's dad has some sort of gum problem, they bleed, and are spongy, he also

has a deep linear crack down the center of his tongue.

 

Baby's tongue has been a little red at the tip and had white fur at one

point, but it turned yellow on the lower left edge yesterday.

 

 

 

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I once worked with a skilled chiropractor who would do spinal adjustments on

infants for this very problem with immediate results. Pediatric tuina several

times daily...between meals should help also. It's worth a try. Good Luck..your

family has my sympathies.

 

Twyla

 

Remediesbyrabiah wrote:

Hello everyone I would like those of you so incline to share their

insights

on this situation with me, The child involved is my granddaughter, She turned

1 month old this past Sunday. She was experiencing lots of bloating, very

difficult and painful to expel gas, evidenced by beet red face, clenched fists,

stiffly outstretched limbs, awful crying, grunting and screeches of pain,

powerful expulsions of gas after much exertion, hiccups, vomiting, while

nursing, after being nursed and burped, and while lying down. The vomiting

sometimes contained a lot of mucous, sometimes would be a little curdled, and on

3

occasions had been projectile, mostly mucous, clear and slimy, mixed with the

milk of course,reminicent of nasal discharge. Baby is hungry and wants to eat,

very frustrated, but continues to thrive, birthweight was just under 7 lbs.

1 week later later she was 8 lb., and yesterday thurs.7/27, she was 10 lbs.

Baby has to be watched all the time because the mucous would come just to the

back of the throat and not come out effort to remove with aspirator were less

then successful and caused her to gag. I just try to get as much as I can out

with a finger when that happens but more often than not she ends up

swallowing it. Overall she did not have the demeanor of a sick child, but I was

worried because I know this much mucous is not a good thing, she also had it

pooling in the corners of her eyes. So I had her Mom take fenugreek in hopes

that

it would clear the mucous up. Mom was on the fenugreek about 4 days and it

seemed like it was making the mucous more available to the baby, vomiting

became more frequent, and gagging on unexpectorated mucous did as well so I had

Mom stop taking it. It seems that the mucous would keep building for a week

before baby's diminished capacity to contain it caused it to be violently

expelled. My daughter and I are groggy with sleep trying to keep vigil to make

sure nothing happens to the baby and my daughter is growing more anxious about

the whole thing because it is not resolving as easily as I have led her to

believe it would. Massage and acupressure help a great with calming the baby,

who is quite agitated as well and young as she is has undergone a personality

change because of all this discomfort. Desperate for some relief for all

three us I decided to use inula helenum. It is a cooling expectorant with

downward Qi. It lessened the amount of times she vomited, and brought up mucous

more

easily, but of course the problem continued. I fashioned a belly band for

her, to support her stomach muscles and prevent a hernia from all the straining

she does. She is on medication now, as outlined below. my question to the

group is how to characterize this from the TCM standpoint, differentiation, my

guess is damp heat in the lowerburner. but how did this happen to a brand new

baby, Should I discontinue herbal treatments in favor of allopathic meds? It

has just been one day but she looks lethargic now. What recommendations and

advice can you give to us? I am most appreciative of any and all help.

Rabiah

Her first week home from the hospital was normal and uneventful, she nursed,

burped and slept, normally. The second week is when the vomiting and gas

started. We thought it was normal at first, then we assumed colic. I had Mom

change her diet, no dairy, no cruciferous veggies and gave baby dilute infusion

of anise or fennel. But this didn't help enough to ease our concerns. we took

her to the doctor who said the he could hear a lot of gas in her stomach,

was normal and was reflux told us to change mom's diet as mentioned above and

come back in a week. That week was up yesterday and they prescribed zantac,

for the gas, and metoclopram to help baby's muscles operate in sync.

 

My daughter is 21 yrs, this is her first child. She has a history of asthma,

allergies, and excess mucous, always feeling that mucous is just in the back

of her throat. Her tongue is usually white fur and wet, no lines or other

marks.

 

Baby's dad has some sort of gum problem, they bleed, and are spongy, he also

has a deep linear crack down the center of his tongue.

 

Baby's tongue has been a little red at the tip and had white fur at one

point, but it turned yellow on the lower left edge yesterday.

 

 

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