Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hello everybody, I,m suffering from spondylitis. If any body know the acupressure point for that pls help. thanking you regards, Biju How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hello everybody, I,m suffering from spondylitis. If any body know the acupressure point for that pls help. thanking you regards, Biju MT: i also have anklosing spondylitis. do you do qigong? mercurius trismegistus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 i know only one acupressure point for spondylitis (at neck) right below the skull on both sides . if anything more anybody know.. pls put the comment regards Biju Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 qi gong is the BEST. imo, as a first year TCM student, it seems in my case to be primarily deficiency liver heat rising to scorch the irises and sinews, with the yin deficiency not providing fluid for smooth movement of the joints. qigong really works to open the joints up. they say that the ankylosing joints are doomed from calcification and degeneration, but when i have more energy, its not a problem. its only when im extremely depleted. - " Biju C " <bijuc33 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:15 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] spondylitis i know only one acupressure point for spondylitis (at neck) right below the skull on both sides . if anything more anybody know.. pls put the comment regards Biju Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Does anyone have any info on the formula below? Cara O. Frank, R.Ac, Dipl Ac & Ch.H. President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts 215-438-2977 Fax 215-849-3338 > > > Zhongguo Zhong Xi Yi Jie He Za Zhi. 2006 May;26(5):403-6. > > [Clinical study on effect and safety of bushen qiangji granule in treating > ankylosing spondylitis patients] > [Article in Chinese] > > Liu HX, Feng XH, He XX. > > Department of Rheumatism, Guang' anmen Hospital, China. > liuhongxiao_123 > > OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of Bushen Qiangji Granule (BQG) > in treating ankylosing spondylitis (AS) patients with Shen-deficiency and > blood-stasis syndrome. METHODS: A randomized controlled and single-blinded > prospective clinical trial was carried out on 68 patients, who were randomly > assigned into the BQG group treated with BQG alone and the combined treated > (CT) > group treated with BQG and sulfasalazine, six-month medication was > successively > applied to both groups. The therapeutic effects were evaluated before > treatment > and at the end of the 1st, 3rd and 6th month of the treatment. RESULTS: The > total effective rate was 81.82% in the BQG group and 86.82% in the CT group > after 6 months of treatment, showing no significant difference between the two > groups, but that after 1 months of treatment in the BQG group was lower than > that in the combined group (15.15% vs. 27.59%, P < 0.01). Bath AS disease > activity index (BASDAI), Bath AS function index (BASFI), and clinical symptoms > such as ache and morning stiffness, as well as indexes of Schober test, > activity > of thoracic cage, finger-ground distance, erythrocyte sedimentation rate (ESR) > and Creactive protein (CRP) in both groups were improved remarkably. BQG > showed > a time-dependant' effect, the therapeutic effect intensified as the time went > by > (P < 0.05 or P < 0.01). Moreover, the effect initiating time was earlier in > the > CT group than that in the BQG group. CONCLUSION: BQG has satisfactory > efficacy, > good safety and compliance, and is convenient for administering, therefore, it > has broad applying prospect with high exploiting value. > > PMID: 16883904 > James A. 'Jim' Duke > 8210 Murphy Road > Fulton, Maryland 20759 > > Sept 3-9 , 2006 > Jim Duke in the Maine Woods, teaching Field Ethnobotany, > stressing edible and medicinal species, survival plants, > and local natural history; ideas on how to live off the land > Contact Joerg-Henner Lotze, Director, Humboldt Institute > office > > > > Sixth Annual Intensive Seminar on Botanical Medicine > with herbwalks at the Green Farmacy Garden > Sept. 14-17, 2007 www.herbalseminars.com <http://www.herbalseminars.com> > > Phytochemical Database > http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke > ------ End of Forwarded Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 , Cara Frank <herbbabe wrote: > > Does anyone have any info on the formula below? > > Cara O. Frank, R.Ac, Dipl Ac & Ch.H. > President China Herb Company > Director of the Chinese Herb Program > Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts > 215-438-2977 > Fax 215-849-3338 > > > > > > > Zhongguo Zhong Xi Yi Jie He Za Zhi. 2006 May;26(5):403-6. > > > > [Clinical study on effect and safety of bushen qiangji granule in treating > > ankylosing spondylitis patients] As is often the case with Chinese articles, the original article does not mention all the ingredients of the formula. The article mentions the following main ingredients of the formula: yin yang huo shu di huai niu xi dang gui chi shao xi xin deng (meaning: et cetera) I haven't had time to read through this study, but it actually looks like it was quite well designed. Regards, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 , " Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > As is often the case with Chinese articles, the original article does > not mention all the ingredients of the formula. The article mentions > the following main ingredients of the formula: > > yin yang huo > shu di > huai niu xi > dang gui > chi shao > xi xin > deng (meaning: et cetera) Thanks for posting the formula, Tom. Actually, that deng3 doesn't always mean et cetera when it appears at the end of a list. While the word can mean etc in this context, often it is actually used to indicate that there is nothing else other than what was just stated. As a non-native learner, it seems a bit bizarre that Chinese has one word that sometimes means " that's it " and sometimes means " etc, " but that is the unfortunate fact of the word deng3 ( & #31561;). In Chinese medicine, deng3 is regularly used in both contexts. At the end of a list of ingredients in a formula or on food packaging, it usually means " that's it. " For example, you could write: si wu tang has four ingredients, danggui, baishao, shudi, chuanxiong, deng3 (meaning " that's all " ). However, you could also see a different sentence wherein the same deng3 word means " etc, " such as a sentence that says " for this, combine danggui with shudi, baishao, deng3 (meaning " etc " as in other meds with a similar treatment theory). Kinda weird linguistically. A bit ambiguous at times if you aren't sure from the context. Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 , " Eric " <smilinglotus wrote: > Actually, that deng3 doesn't always mean et cetera when it appears at > the end of a list. While the word can mean etc in this context, often > it is actually used to indicate that there is nothing else other than > what was just stated. As a non-native learner, it seems a bit bizarre > that Chinese has one word that sometimes means " that's it " and > sometimes means " etc, " but that is the unfortunate fact of the word > deng3 ( & #31561;). In Chinese medicine, deng3 is regularly used in both > contexts. > I really didn't know that. Often times I saw 'deng' appear when the authors were listing some (or all?) of the ingredients of a patented formula (or with patent pending). So I always figured they didn't want to list some of the ingredients. Looks like I could have been wrong thinking that. So there are no clues to know in which way 'deng' is used? Does a comma or no comma make a difference? Doubling 'deng' to 'deng deng' probably always means 'and so forth', right? Thank you for explaining, Eric. Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 , Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: > > Hi all, > > I will agree with Tom, deng3 in the formula the > meaning is having others conpound will not list I will always defer to a native speaker on how deng3 should be interpreted in any given context. But it is true that the word has two uses and is often problematic in translation. Once when I was discussing the problem with Wiseman, we looked it up in a Chinese language dictionary and the dual meaning was very clearly spelled out. A similar discussion came up around this word when we were setting up the English translation center for People's Medical Publishing House (renmin weisheng chubanshe) in Beijing. The word can definitely mean " that's all " or " etc, " depending on the context. It is usually left untranslated in English. Tom, you mentioned deng3 deng3, the same word repeated twice. You are correct that the word always means " etc/so on and so forth " when it is repeated. It only has the two possible meanings above if it appears as a single character. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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