Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 > > You rightly note that fever is not " the answer " . But what about when > Nature says it is? Once the fever has taken place, because wrong > foods ARE consumed, what do we do? Suppress them or not? Watch them > carefully? I think that traditional western naturopathic medicine > might be helpful here. We must NEVER !!! suppress the natural processes of the body - indeed if we have fever we should facilitate it's attempt to clear extraneous matter. As far as naturopathic medicine is concerned - one would have to know what protocals one is reffering to. Naturopathy is a vast field with many different schools of thought on the many issues it concerns itself with. My father is a Naturopathic physician yet uses none of the popular protocals used by many Naturopaths. In the case of children with stress disorders I firmly advise against any draining therapies. Parents who do not have experience of medical practice should leave the medical treatment of their children to those who do. A sick child is not an opportunity to apply some protocal found in a book or on the Internet. A growing child should never go through any types of reducing therapies - it will drastically effect their growth process. For an already stressed child anyone can see that to further challenge that child is not common sense. In theory the concept that if one has stagnation processes going on then draining the accumulated excess will solve the problem. The first question is - is this the best way and second does it do any harm (no matter what temporary good it might do). It never is the best therapy in weakened children - there are whole schools specializing in natural pediatrics in TCM and Ayurveda none use draining therapies in weak children. Switching the diet from a phlegm and heat forming one to a phlegm and heat resolving one will be the foundation for indivdually prescribed herbs - this will be the correct approach. The child needs support not further stress. Kuzu tea as used by the Macrobiotic practioners is very helpful for the acid accumulations that are the source of the fever. But because Kuzu is cooling one should use it properly - meaning it should always be taken with a little ginger, salt (the macrobiotic people use tamari) and chopped scallions (green and white including roots) if prepared properly this is accepted by most children. Remember that simply resolving the fever is only the first step here there must be follow up to support the energy of the body so as to remove the stressors which are causing the fever in the first place. Besides herbs one useful concept coming from Homeopathy and Cell Salt therapy is the use of Calcium Phosphate after fevers to help to reestablish balance - I have seen excellant results from this. It cuts the recovery process significantly. Use Cal Phos in the 30X potency twice a day until the symptoms of cold and stagnation are gone - then stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3 wrote: > > > > > We must NEVER !!! suppress the natural processes of the body - > indeed if we have fever we should facilitate it's attempt to clear > extraneous matter. > > As far as naturopathic medicine is concerned - one would have to > know what protocals one is reffering to. Naturopathy is a vast > field with many different schools of thought on the many issues it > concerns itself with. My father is a Naturopathic physician yet uses > none of the popular protocals used by many Naturopaths. In the case > of children with stress disorders I firmly advise against any > draining therapies. > > Remember that simply resolving the fever is only the first step here > there must be follow up to support the energy of the body so as to > remove the stressors which are causing the fever in the first place. Hello, Vinod. I agree with what you have to say. I have received advice for a 5-year-old child of mine from a naturopath that I felt was drastic and therefore I ignored it. I do not support the imposition of drastic, 180-degree changes on a child's diet, which is what was advised in our case. Or even an adult's. So, when he was much older, I put him on the Robert Gray/Holistic Horizons Bowel Cleanse, which contains no laxatives or strong, draining, purging type herbs. It was successful, in my opinion, and had no weakening effect. It is not some kind of " final, once and for all " answer, but it is one aspect of securing an older child's health. I also give that child, now, some Chinese digestive- type herbs (atractylodes, licorice, fennel, poria, cinnamon, etc.) that agree with him. Also a Japanese tea. I can see improvements of a gentle kind right before my eyes. The founder of that system, Robert Gray, admits that the psyllium portion of the programme would, over a long period, harm the lining of the gut. He therefore changed his formula to include substances that encourage the growth of healthy bacteria. I think that simply taking probiotics from a bottle is not really much of a solution, because you have to take them for years, and those bacteria might not be what your particular body wants. They help while in the gut, but don't implant easily, so you are stuck taking them forever. If parents don't go to an Ayurvedic or Chinese doctor who has much knowledge in children's or teens' problems it may be because they can't afford it, and so they have to ask around, research (much), guess, pray and hope. I was able to take my child at that time to a well-qualified practitioner of TCM (from China) on two occasions, but now because of $$$ concerns, it is not possible if he should get sick. There is much flying by the seat of your pants when you are not in the best place financially. I'd love to hear from people who have treated their children for health problems. - Mrs. Barley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Dear Mrs. Barley, I read with interest the discussion on " stressed children. " I have a daughter (7) and a son (5) both of whom I am presently treating with TCM herbs. I am treating my daughter for asthma and my son for autism. Both are doing fine and improving. There is a great deal of speculation (an quite a lot of evidence) on the connection between vaccinations (particularly a mercury based preservative called thimerosal) and the dramatic increase in autism and other neuro-developmental delays in children. Autism figures in America now stand at 1 in 166, and children with special needs including ADHD is now 1 in 5. Many of these children have significant health issues, including eczema, asthma, bowel disorders, allergies and weakened-immune systems in general. Hence my interest and effort in using TCM to help to heal my children. I used TCM when my daughter was 3 years old to heal her eczema which she hasn't suffered since. It's early days in the present treatment as they've only been taking the herbs for @ 1 month. I took my daughter off the inhalers as soon as I started giving herbs. She suffers a particular kind of asthma called " reactive airway disease " ...since taking the herbs, the cold and flu season has hit locally and we are also using TCM cold and flu remedies to help my daughter through this until she is healed. I have still not had to use the inhaler, despite having two rounds of colds and one of flu. Best season I've ever had with my kids. My son is speaking more. His teachers have noticed the improvement as well. Standard practice is to restrict an autistic child's diet to gluten-free, casein-free foods and to give supplements, probiotics, and eventually to chelate the mercury out of the child's system. Many parents who use this approach report amazing improvement in their children. I wanted to try TCM first as I believe it has a better healing potential and is much more balanced and nutritionally supportive of the child. I wouldn't say that the results are miraculous after one month, but improvement has definitely been noticed. I use a very good TCM practitioner, based in Chicago, Dr. Zhengang Guo, www.liferising.com He is excellent, the herbs are affordable and he does phone consultation. Hope this helps and I'd be happy to discuss further on this if it interests you. Randi Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mrs. Barley " <chosenbarley wrote: > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Vinod Kumar " <vinod3x3@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > We must NEVER !!! suppress the natural processes of the body - > > indeed if we have fever we should facilitate it's attempt to clear > > extraneous matter. > > > > As far as naturopathic medicine is concerned - one would have to > > know what protocals one is reffering to. Naturopathy is a vast > > field with many different schools of thought on the many issues it > > concerns itself with. My father is a Naturopathic physician yet > uses > > none of the popular protocals used by many Naturopaths. In the case > > of children with stress disorders I firmly advise against any > > draining therapies. > > > > > Remember that simply resolving the fever is only the first step > here > > there must be follow up to support the energy of the body so as to > > remove the stressors which are causing the fever in the first place. > > > Hello, Vinod. I agree with what you have to say. I have received > advice for a 5-year-old child of mine from a naturopath that I felt > was drastic and therefore I ignored it. I do not support the > imposition of drastic, 180-degree changes on a child's diet, which is > what was advised in our case. Or even > an adult's. So, when he was much older, I put him on the Robert > Gray/Holistic Horizons Bowel Cleanse, which contains no laxatives or > strong, draining, purging type herbs. It was successful, in my > opinion, and had no weakening effect. It is not some kind of " final, > once and for all " answer, but it is one aspect of securing an older > child's health. I also give that child, now, some Chinese digestive- > type herbs (atractylodes, licorice, fennel, poria, cinnamon, etc.) > that agree with him. Also a Japanese tea. I can see improvements > of a gentle kind right before my eyes. > > The founder of that system, Robert Gray, admits that the psyllium > portion of the programme would, over a long period, harm the lining > of the gut. He therefore changed his formula to include substances > that encourage the growth of healthy bacteria. I think that > simply taking probiotics from a bottle is not really much of a > solution, because you have to take them for years, and those bacteria > might not be what your particular body wants. They help while in the > gut, but don't implant easily, so you are stuck taking them > forever. > > If parents don't go to an Ayurvedic or Chinese doctor who has much > knowledge in children's or teens' problems it may be because they > can't afford it, and so they have to ask around, research (much), > guess, pray and hope. I was able to take my child at that time to a > well-qualified practitioner of TCM (from China) on two occasions, but > now because of $$$ concerns, it is not possible if he should get > sick. There is much flying by the seat of your pants when you are > not in the best place financially. > > I'd love to hear from people who have treated their children for > health problems. - Mrs. Barley. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " woknwoll4ever " <woknwoll4ever wrote: > > Dear Mrs. Barley..., Hi, Randi, I was so pleased to hear your story of you and your children. I hope that your daughter's asthma will soon be a thing of the past, just an unpleasant memory. And that was wonderful to hear about your son's improvement over autism. I know that there are so very many autistic children around nowadays and also that the mercury in the vaccines probably plays a huge role. I know a young man who is autistic but I do not think his parents would welcome my opinion (they would think THEY are being somehow " blamed " and get angry). My son has never been vaccinated, he is now in his teens. His health challenge is chronic bowel and digestive weakness. His father and I are not the strongest people in the world, so what can I say. I think he is a smart young fella, because he recently said he does not want to take hydrochloric acid anymore; he said he wants to be really cured, not just managed. Amazing. So I am giving him the chinese herbs now, which I have figured out for myself after years of reading up. He used to be pugnacious, argumentative, even violent on bad days. Now he is just plain NICE. It is easier to convince him that certain foods are to be avoided or minimized. Hope you will post here again to let us know how the kids and you are doing. Regards, Mrs. B. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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