Hypothyroidism - Hypometabolism - Syndrome X

[Guest guest]

> I have been diagnosed insulin resistance, have poly cystic ovarian

syndrome,

> and was prescribed Levoxyl (synthetic thyroid) because of low TSH

levels.

>

> Over the last five years, every time I am tested, the doctor ups

the dosage

> of Levoxyl.

 

Karen's posting brought up several issues. Karen please keep in mind

that the comments and links I am going to give do not refer to your

particular case. We do not know you so to comment about your case as

though we did would not be fair to you. You need professional help

because the disease process you are describing takes an experienced

practitioner to help you manage.

 

Karen's case is a case of true Hypothyroidism (she has elevated TSH)

and as we can see hypometabolism can devastate all functions of the

body and end the patient in a complex state of multiple

malfunctions. When I referred before to shutting down of the T3 and

T4 receptor sites I was not referring to this type of situation.

Such cases as Karen's are not hypometabolic because of shut down of

the receptor sites they are hypometabolic because of decreased

thyroid function. These are two different disease processes and will

be evaluated and treated in different ways. BUT - saying that one

has Hypothyroid disease does not explain the case - why these late

developing thyroid cases develop is another issue - perhaps it is a

similar pathological process as Thyroid resistance. Karen mentioned

that her physician said she had a severe metabolic disease - such

cases are Hypopituitarism - meaning that there are multiple hormonal

imbalances - which are not ultimately the fault of the Pituitary -

the Pituitary is simply 'confused' trying to adjust to these many

deficiency states - it has a very complex juggling act to perform

and may be having trouble keeping up - nothing is really wrong with

the Pituitary in most of these cases – the referral process through

the Pituitary – Hypothalamus – Limbic system – Autonomic Nervous

System – with overstimulation of the Sympathetic System and

inability of the Parasympathetic to help us calm and relax

ourselves – is the hormonal pathway to these breakdowns in

functioning. It is a feedback loop that has left the metabolic

pathways exhausted. The endocrine functions break down as well as

the brain chemical functions – this leaves the patient " wired but

tired' – it is an extreme exhaustive state which is self

perpetuating because the SNS is always `on' and never relaxes – if

insomnia develops as a result of this the patient will be in serious

trouble and a long list of dramatic, complex (hot and cold symptoms

co-existing), difficult to resolve syndromes will develop.

 

Hypothyroidism and Hypometabolism are different although often

related conditions and should not be confused with each other. As

far as taking Thyroid supplementation is concerned I have a

prejudice against all synthetic hormones. As I have mentioned here

before I have an inherited hypofunctioning of my Thyroid gland so

for people like me it will be necessary to take thyroid

supplementation for my whole life – this is true of most cases of

true Hypothyroidism – but for those later developing cases of

Hypothyroidism it may be possible to come off of the hormone once

the underlying causes are corrected. For those without thyroid

defeciency who have Hypometabolic syndrome Thyroid supplementation

is rarely called for and if used should only be used by an

experienced practioner for short periods of time – many such cases

will need full Yin support to accept this stimulation. Only experts

should try these techniques.

 

Insulin resistance is a different issue – Insulin resistance often

develops in hypometabolic people (although not just in these cases) –

it is very easy to develop Insulin resistance if one is minimally

active because the body needs very few calories from the carbs we

eat – all excess sugar will first collect in the Blood and Liver

where it causes many problems – the body tries to deal with this

excess sugar by converting it into fat and depositing it in the

various adipose depots – but if we are not able to deal with all of

this circulating sugar then it will stress the cells which do not

need this sugar – the cells respond by shutting down the Insulin

receptor sites – this is Insulin resistance. If this condition is

associated with Hypometabolism then all of the issues will be worse.

This becomes complicated because what is needed is less

carbohydrates so as to clear out this excess sugar accumulation –

but if we are also hypometabolic then we may need very few calories –

so eating less food might be severely lacking in sufficient

nutrition. Many Hypometabolic people are overweight yet they eat

very little. Insulin resistance always has a Liver deficiency

component with stagnations of water and toxins (mainly acid toxins).

Also since the Liver is responsible for distributing the sugar to

the rest of the body – congestive states will make this process much

more difficult – this is a deteriorating condition which gets worse

as time goes on as the Liver functions get more stressed. Also

remember the role the Liver plays in converting hormones – if this

function becomes compromised we can see how the body can very easily

begin to suffer multiple hormonal malfunctions. Adrenal functions as

well as IGF1 functions will be less than adequate. Insulin

Resistance in theory is very easy to cure – just eat fewer

carbohydrates – most of the modern dietary systems like Atkin's and

South Beach diet have this as a basic understanding. But – this is

not so easy to do for most severely deficient people. Many deficient

people crave carbs although they have way too much sugar in their

systems – this is because the body thinks it needs energy because it

is so tired. In TCM terms what we have is a constant assault on the

Stomach/Spleen which is already bogged down by the dampness being

created by all of this excess sugar – in fact this excess caused

deficiency is the real `original' cause of this disease syndrome. We

can not clear the excess dampness if we constantly feed it everyday.

The more water logged the Spleen becomes the weaker our digestive

functions and more difficulty we have in separating the Qi and the

turbid – making Qi and water distribution very inefficient and the

further this continues the further we slide into malfunction and

fatigue– this is why many authorities say that these diseases begin

in the Stomach/Spleen.

 

Here are some links on Hypothyroidism – the first link is an

interview with a very brilliant young practitioner – she is the

daughter of Michael Tiarra founder of PlanataryHerbs – he has been

working for many years to develop a synthesis between TCM, Ayurveda,

and Western Herbology – he has many books – the daughter is clearly

developing into a true modern Herbal practitioner. There is also a

link to ITM where Subhuti discusses the classical understanding of

Thyroid problems – his comments about hypothyroid are interesting

because he shows how it is not necessary to have a western diagnosis

for these conditions – because the ancient scholars did not know

about the Thyroid gland but they certainly knew about the many

deficiency states that are caused by Thyroid deficiency. Patients

please remember that the listing of any particular herbal formula

used for Yang deficiency does not mean that all with these

conditions should take these formulas. They must be selected

according to the overall TCM diagnosis. In fact I would strongly

advise caution in taking these formulas without advise since they

often use powerful Yang building substances like deer horn and

Aconite – such herbs are not apporpriate to many of these cases

because they also have severe Yin deficiencies.

[Guest guest]

The links did not get posted so here they are -

> Here are some links on Hypothyroidism – the first link is an

> interview with a very brilliant young practitioner – she is the

> daughter of Michael Tiarra founder of PlanataryHerbs – he has been

> working for many years to develop a synthesis between TCM,

Ayurveda,

> and Western Herbology – he has many books – the daughter is

clearly

> developing into a true modern Herbal practitioner. There is also a

> link to ITM where Subhuti discusses the classical understanding of

> Thyroid problems – his comments about hypothyroid are interesting

> because he shows how it is not necessary to have a western

diagnosis

> for these conditions – because the ancient scholars did not know

> about the Thyroid gland but they certainly knew about the many

> deficiency states that are caused by Thyroid deficiency. Patients

> please remember that the listing of any particular herbal formula

> used for Yang deficiency does not mean that all with these

> conditions should take these formulas. They must be selected

> according to the overall TCM diagnosis. In fact I would strongly

> advise caution in taking these formulas without advise since they

> often use powerful Yang building substances like deer horn and

> Aconite – such herbs are not apporpriate to many of these cases

> because they also have severe Yin deficiencies.

 

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/expertinterviews/a/shasta.htm

 

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/alternativehelp/a/chinese.htm

 

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/thyroid.htm

 

 

 

>

[Guest guest]

Vinod, if someone is hypometabolic and insulin resistant, in a general

way what would you say are corresponding TCM patterns? The main patterns

that I personally feel I fit are Kidney Yin and Yang deficiency,

dampness, spleen qi deficiency and liver qi stagnation. Also some blood

deficiency and blood stasis. Btw, this is great info. I haven't run

across anything quite like this elsewhere.

 

Nancy S+13

 

Vinod Kumar wrote:

 

> > I have been diagnosed insulin resistance, have poly cystic ovarian

> syndrome,

> > and was prescribed Levoxyl (synthetic thyroid) because of low TSH

> levels.

> >

> > Over the last five years, every time I am tested, the doctor ups

> the dosage

> > of Levoxyl.

>

> Karen's posting brought up several issues. Karen please keep in mind

> that the comments and links I am going to give do not refer to your

> particular case. We do not know you so to comment about your case as

> though we did would not be fair to you. You need professional help

> because the disease process you are describing takes an experienced

> practitioner to help you manage.

>

> Karen's case is a case of true Hypothyroidism (she has elevated TSH)

> and as we can see hypometabolism can devastate all functions of the

> body and end the patient in a complex state of multiple

> malfunctions. When I referred before to shutting down of the T3 and

> T4 receptor sites I was not referring to this type of situation.

> Such cases as Karen's are not hypometabolic because of shut down of

> the receptor sites they are hypometabolic because of decreased

> thyroid function. These are two different disease processes and will

> be evaluated and treated in different ways. BUT - saying that one

> has Hypothyroid disease does not explain the case - why these late

> developing thyroid cases develop is another issue - perhaps it is a

> similar pathological process as Thyroid resistance. Karen mentioned

> that her physician said she had a severe metabolic disease - such

> cases are Hypopituitarism - meaning that there are multiple hormonal

> imbalances - which are not ultimately the fault of the Pituitary -

> the Pituitary is simply 'confused' trying to adjust to these many

> deficiency states - it has a very complex juggling act to perform

> and may be having trouble keeping up - nothing is really wrong with

> the Pituitary in most of these cases – the referral process through

> the Pituitary – Hypothalamus – Limbic system – Autonomic Nervous

> System – with overstimulation of the Sympathetic System and

> inability of the Parasympathetic to help us calm and relax

> ourselves – is the hormonal pathway to these breakdowns in

> functioning. It is a feedback loop that has left the metabolic

> pathways exhausted. The endocrine functions break down as well as

> the brain chemical functions – this leaves the patient " wired but

> tired' – it is an extreme exhaustive state which is self

> perpetuating because the SNS is always `on' and never relaxes – if

> insomnia develops as a result of this the patient will be in serious

> trouble and a long list of dramatic, complex (hot and cold symptoms

> co-existing), difficult to resolve syndromes will develop.

>

> Hypothyroidism and Hypometabolism are different although often

> related conditions and should not be confused with each other. As

> far as taking Thyroid supplementation is concerned I have a

> prejudice against all synthetic hormones. As I have mentioned here

> before I have an inherited hypofunctioning of my Thyroid gland so

> for people like me it will be necessary to take thyroid

> supplementation for my whole life – this is true of most cases of

> true Hypothyroidism – but for those later developing cases of

> Hypothyroidism it may be possible to come off of the hormone once

> the underlying causes are corrected. For those without thyroid

> defeciency who have Hypometabolic syndrome Thyroid supplementation

> is rarely called for and if used should only be used by an

> experienced practioner for short periods of time – many such cases

> will need full Yin support to accept this stimulation. Only experts

> should try these techniques.

>

> Insulin resistance is a different issue – Insulin resistance often

> develops in hypometabolic people (although not just in these cases) –

> it is very easy to develop Insulin resistance if one is minimally

> active because the body needs very few calories from the carbs we

> eat – all excess sugar will first collect in the Blood and Liver

> where it causes many problems – the body tries to deal with this

> excess sugar by converting it into fat and depositing it in the

> various adipose depots – but if we are not able to deal with all of

> this circulating sugar then it will stress the cells which do not

> need this sugar – the cells respond by shutting down the Insulin

> receptor sites – this is Insulin resistance. If this condition is

> associated with Hypometabolism then all of the issues will be worse.

> This becomes complicated because what is needed is less

> carbohydrates so as to clear out this excess sugar accumulation –

> but if we are also hypometabolic then we may need very few calories –

> so eating less food might be severely lacking in sufficient

> nutrition. Many Hypometabolic people are overweight yet they eat

> very little. Insulin resistance always has a Liver deficiency

> component with stagnations of water and toxins (mainly acid toxins).

> Also since the Liver is responsible for distributing the sugar to

> the rest of the body – congestive states will make this process much

> more difficult – this is a deteriorating condition which gets worse

> as time goes on as the Liver functions get more stressed. Also

> remember the role the Liver plays in converting hormones – if this

> function becomes compromised we can see how the body can very easily

> begin to suffer multiple hormonal malfunctions. Adrenal functions as

> well as IGF1 functions will be less than adequate. Insulin

> Resistance in theory is very easy to cure – just eat fewer

> carbohydrates – most of the modern dietary systems like Atkin's and

> South Beach diet have this as a basic understanding. But – this is

> not so easy to do for most severely deficient people. Many deficient

> people crave carbs although they have way too much sugar in their

> systems – this is because the body thinks it needs energy because it

> is so tired. In TCM terms what we have is a constant assault on the

> Stomach/Spleen which is already bogged down by the dampness being

> created by all of this excess sugar – in fact this excess caused

> deficiency is the real `original' cause of this disease syndrome. We

> can not clear the excess dampness if we constantly feed it everyday.

> The more water logged the Spleen becomes the weaker our digestive

> functions and more difficulty we have in separating the Qi and the

> turbid – making Qi and water distribution very inefficient and the

> further this continues the further we slide into malfunction and

> fatigue– this is why many authorities say that these diseases begin

> in the Stomach/Spleen.

>

> Here are some links on Hypothyroidism – the first link is an

> interview with a very brilliant young practitioner – she is the

> daughter of Michael Tiarra founder of PlanataryHerbs – he has been

> working for many years to develop a synthesis between TCM, Ayurveda,

> and Western Herbology – he has many books – the daughter is clearly

> developing into a true modern Herbal practitioner. There is also a

> link to ITM where Subhuti discusses the classical understanding of

> Thyroid problems – his comments about hypothyroid are interesting

> because he shows how it is not necessary to have a western diagnosis

> for these conditions – because the ancient scholars did not know

> about the Thyroid gland but they certainly knew about the many

> deficiency states that are caused by Thyroid deficiency. Patients

> please remember that the listing of any particular herbal formula

> used for Yang deficiency does not mean that all with these

> conditions should take these formulas. They must be selected

> according to the overall TCM diagnosis. In fact I would strongly

> advise caution in taking these formulas without advise since they

> often use powerful Yang building substances like deer horn and

> Aconite – such herbs are not apporpriate to many of these cases

> because they also have severe Yin deficiencies.

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

" Vinod, if someone is hypometabolic and insulin resistant, in a

general way what would you say are corresponding TCM patterns? The

main patterns that I personally feel I fit are Kidney Yin and Yang

deficiency, dampness, spleen Qi deficiency and liver Qi stagnation.

Also some blood deficiency and blood stasis. Btw, this is great

info. I haven't run across anything quite like this elsewhere. Nancy

S+13 "

 

It is interesting and very informative to realize that a large

percentage of chronic disease processes have these patterns that

Nancy has listed. I have an overview vision of this, which I will go

into more below.

 

In a previous post I referred to the two major causes of

hypometabolic disease – Thyroid deficiency and Hypometabolic

syndrome without Thyroid involvement. Thyroid disease is easy to

understand – several years ago my wife did population studies on the

incidence of thyroid disease in various cultures around the world.

In certain areas of the world thyroid deficiency diseases are

endemic – millions of people have these problems – it appears that

thyroid malfunctions are a major weak point in the human condition.

This means that a large percentage of people are born with a less

than adequate metabolism and will face many health, social, and

spiritual challenges because they are unable to perform at adequate

levels to be successful. Most of these cases can be managed with

small amounts of thyroid hormone supplementation daily for life.

This is a subject I know a lot about personally as I am in this

category.

 

But what about this other syndrome – Hypometabolism with no Thyroid

deficiency? If one looks at the superficial aspects it is clear that

the real nature of this disease is it is an exhaustive state. The

body has lost all of its reserves and is no longer able to keep up

with the demands of `ordinary' functioning. Why? What has gone

wrong? First I believe that many of these cases have inherited

weaknesses that are starting them off at a disadvantage (in modern

TCM English terminology this is called `former heaven natural

endowment insufficiency') – I call this `inherited conditions' –

this is more than genetics because it also includes the many

possible acquired disease patterns that our mother's suffered from

that were not genetic but were a part of her personal chemistry

while she was carrying us. I have mentioned before of the

Endocrinology studies that show that 100% of all children born of

mothers suffering stress disorder also have stress disorder. In fact

this category of individuals makes up a large percentage of these

cases – these people are born with Adrenal stress. There are

millions of such people simply because such a large percentage of

pregnant women are under more stress than they can deal with well.

These children start off with difficult infancies – with several

health issues coming very early – they have difficulty thriving –

they are often developmentally behind and may have affect disorders

like hyperrectivaties and hyperactivity diseases – a large

percentage of ADD and ADHD children come from these pregnancies -

also there is a large percentage of depressive children who are

retiring and shy who come from stressed pregnancies. This means that

children with Yin constitutions have a tendency to develop

depressive and hypometabolic processes under stress – and children

with Yang constitutions have a tendency to develop Hyperreactivity

diseases under stress. For many of these children the full fledged

disease starts in adolescence because they do not deal well with the

natural stresses of puberty – I have talked to many people with

severe exhaustion diseases who describe very difficult puberty's.

Any severe stress condition can spiral these people into further

breakdown. There are so many things that can trigger this disease in

those who are susceptible. The fact is that many people face

multiple stressors that they have difficulty dealing with. What are

some of these stressors?

 

For we modern people our exposure to many different drugs in

childhood weakens our Stomach, Blood, Liver, and Kidney systems – a

very important class of drugs that harm us are antibiotics – also

vaccines have suppressed natural immune functions. those who have

taken stimulant type recreational drugs like cocaine or those who

took `diet' pills to lose weight.

Chemicals in processed foods contribute.

Heavy metals in the environment.

A high sugar and high fat diet have created many levels of stress.

A low micronutrient and low antioxidant diet have created

malnutrition in individuals who eat a lot of food – wrong food.

Yo-yo dieting or fasting.

Death of loved ones, divorce of parents, or abandonment destroys the

lives of many sensitive children.

An insane or irrational parent overwhelms many children – or drug

dependent parents do the same.

There are endless stressors and if we are unsable to keep up with

them all then we may end up in severe defeciency states. Some people

face many levels of intense stress.

 

For sensitive individuals culture (social and family culture) can be

overwhelming – they become self-conscious because they do not seem

to be able to perform in the expected ways – many children hide

their insecurities very well but this does not mean they do not

suffer them. For a sensitive and reactive child (often very

intelligent and aware) the stomach is constantly assaulted by the

heavy foods, which are the ordinary foods of their culture. Many

have alternating constipation and diarrhea – they have sensitive

stomachs that often rebel against foods and drinks – they may often

feel nauseous – eating heavy meals causes them distress – eating

fatty foods distresses them – eating very cold foods causes

problems - they may often have gas – they may have cramps - etc.

Many theorists trace the true evolution of these diseases to these

digestive disorders, which start the process of Spleen dampness,

which is a core issue in these disorders.

 

Once this process of dampness in the Spleen starts digestive

disorders begin – Qi is not separated properly from the turbid (the

waste part of food) and the Blood becomes polluted by these absorbed

toxins – this poor blood puts tremendous stress on the Kidneys which

are responsible for dealing with these growing problems in the

Center and the Blood – if there is inherited weakness in the

Kidneys – which there frequently is - remember that many of these

people are born with greater or lesser degrees of Adrenal stress –

then the blood goes under more stress and the Liver instead of being

righteously nourished by the Kidneys will be stressed by the arrival

of this polluted blood and the weakened condition of the Kidneys –

adrenal hormones will become more imbalanced as the Liver becomes

more stagnant and water logged itself – acids begin to build up in

the body because they are not being sufficiently transformed and

eliminated – phlegm develops (many of these children have a series

of infections and fevers in childhood) – the immunity weakens

further – the individual develops lethargy which creates more

stagnation and this slowing down of the many processes becomes a

true hypometabolic disorder – oxygenation of the blood becomes

compromised because of the build up of toxins – at this stage one

may develop personality and affect problems. Insomnia may develop or

sleep disorders such as not being able to stay awake for most of the

day (one has seen individuals who sleep 18 hours a day) If one faces

severe stressors while already overextended then the Adrenal system

may become exhausted and one will be sliding into full fledged

affective diseases such as depressive and or manic disorders – and

exhaustive states such as FM and CFS. As these processes proceed the

individual may become Agoraphobic and become house bound because of

fatigue and a feeling of social inadequacy. For the hyperactive

types perhaps they are acting out their stress states in society

creating problems for themselves and others – extremely over heated

individuals may become argumentative, irritable, and even violent.

 

There will be multiple hormonal and brain chemical imbalances.

Enzyme systems throughout the body will be slow, sluggish, and or

nonfunctional. Blood PH will be acidic and temperatures will be

reduced.

 

These descriptions are simply highlights because these types of

breakdown occur in millions of different ways. In fact if we look

at the full implications of this disease process and the many paths

it can take we will have within this single category of those born

with `former heaven natural development insufficiency' a major

percentage of the pathological states that human beings develop. But

not all cases of exhaustion come from this cause many simply suffer

a chronic or acute stress or series of stressors that eventually

challenge them beyond their capacities.

 

So we start at the Stomach/Spleen – Liver – Bob Flaws states that

exhaustive states always have a Spleen/Liver disharmony which is

easy to see - this is the primary realization of Li Dong Yuan –

since there is both Yin and Yang insufficiency then we must support

the Kidneys according to the balance of these deficiencies – and the

underlying support for all of these issues will be achieved by

improving the Blood functions.

 

Many seem surprised that so many disparate disease patterns follow

this Spleen – Blood – Kidney - Liver pathway but this is easily

understandable since these are the foundation systems of proper

metabolism – how we process the food and liquids in our diet – how

we eliminate our toxins – and the means of transformation and

transportation of the energy of the body – these systems are easily

disturbed and when constantly stressed can end us in minumum

functioning and premature and difficult ageing.

 

Let me wrap up this cursory exploration of a very deep subject on a

high note. Many people have recovered from these severe stress

states and the genetic weaknesses have been supported to the extent

that healing has occurred. I find that many who have had healing

from this disease seem to thrive and experience a higher than

average level of personal success. It seems that the trials and

suffering these weakened conditions create, make the individuals

stronger. Many of those who have truly recovered have come to a deep

understanding of life simply because their experience of life has

been so profound.

[Guest guest]

As I was reading this I could easily see my own history. So much of what

you wrote fits my experiences. Something I had not considered before was

to look back at my mother's pregnancy. I know she had a very stressful

pregnancy. She was a newlywed living with an overbearing mother-in-law

that she didn't get along with. How fascinating to think that what I'm

experiencing now traces all the way back there.

 

Nancy S+13

 

Vinod Kumar wrote:

 

> " Vinod, if someone is hypometabolic and insulin resistant, in a

> general way what would you say are corresponding TCM patterns? The

> main patterns that I personally feel I fit are Kidney Yin and Yang

> deficiency, dampness, spleen Qi deficiency and liver Qi stagnation.

> Also some blood deficiency and blood stasis. Btw, this is great

> info. I haven't run across anything quite like this elsewhere. Nancy

> S+13 "

>

> It is interesting and very informative to realize that a large

> percentage of chronic disease processes have these patterns that

> Nancy has listed. I have an overview vision of this, which I will go

> into more below.

>

> In a previous post I referred to the two major causes of

> hypometabolic disease – Thyroid deficiency and Hypometabolic

> syndrome without Thyroid involvement. Thyroid disease is easy to

> understand – several years ago my wife did population studies on the

> incidence of thyroid disease in various cultures around the world.

> In certain areas of the world thyroid deficiency diseases are

> endemic – millions of people have these problems – it appears that

> thyroid malfunctions are a major weak point in the human condition.

> This means that a large percentage of people are born with a less

> than adequate metabolism and will face many health, social, and

> spiritual challenges because they are unable to perform at adequate

> levels to be successful. Most of these cases can be managed with

> small amounts of thyroid hormone supplementation daily for life.

> This is a subject I know a lot about personally as I am in this

> category.

>

> But what about this other syndrome – Hypometabolism with no Thyroid

> deficiency? If one looks at the superficial aspects it is clear that

> the real nature of this disease is it is an exhaustive state. The

> body has lost all of its reserves and is no longer able to keep up

> with the demands of `ordinary' functioning. Why? What has gone

> wrong? First I believe that many of these cases have inherited

> weaknesses that are starting them off at a disadvantage (in modern

> TCM English terminology this is called `former heaven natural

> endowment insufficiency') – I call this `inherited conditions' –

> this is more than genetics because it also includes the many

> possible acquired disease patterns that our mother's suffered from

> that were not genetic but were a part of her personal chemistry

> while she was carrying us. I have mentioned before of the

> Endocrinology studies that show that 100% of all children born of

> mothers suffering stress disorder also have stress disorder. In fact

> this category of individuals makes up a large percentage of these

> cases – these people are born with Adrenal stress. There are

> millions of such people simply because such a large percentage of

> pregnant women are under more stress than they can deal with well.

> These children start off with difficult infancies – with several

> health issues coming very early – they have difficulty thriving –

> they are often developmentally behind and may have affect disorders

> like hyperrectivaties and hyperactivity diseases – a large

> percentage of ADD and ADHD children come from these pregnancies -

> also there is a large percentage of depressive children who are

> retiring and shy who come from stressed pregnancies. This means that

> children with Yin constitutions have a tendency to develop

> depressive and hypometabolic processes under stress – and children

> with Yang constitutions have a tendency to develop Hyperreactivity

> diseases under stress. For many of these children the full fledged

> disease starts in adolescence because they do not deal well with the

> natural stresses of puberty – I have talked to many people with

> severe exhaustion diseases who describe very difficult puberty's.

> Any severe stress condition can spiral these people into further

> breakdown. There are so many things that can trigger this disease in

> those who are susceptible. The fact is that many people face

> multiple stressors that they have difficulty dealing with. What are

> some of these stressors?

>

> For we modern people our exposure to many different drugs in

> childhood weakens our Stomach, Blood, Liver, and Kidney systems – a

> very important class of drugs that harm us are antibiotics – also

> vaccines have suppressed natural immune functions. those who have

> taken stimulant type recreational drugs like cocaine or those who

> took `diet' pills to lose weight.

> Chemicals in processed foods contribute.

> Heavy metals in the environment.

> A high sugar and high fat diet have created many levels of stress.

> A low micronutrient and low antioxidant diet have created

> malnutrition in individuals who eat a lot of food – wrong food.

> Yo-yo dieting or fasting.

> Death of loved ones, divorce of parents, or abandonment destroys the

> lives of many sensitive children.

> An insane or irrational parent overwhelms many children – or drug

> dependent parents do the same.

> There are endless stressors and if we are unsable to keep up with

> them all then we may end up in severe defeciency states. Some people

> face many levels of intense stress.

>

> For sensitive individuals culture (social and family culture) can be

> overwhelming – they become self-conscious because they do not seem

> to be able to perform in the expected ways – many children hide

> their insecurities very well but this does not mean they do not

> suffer them. For a sensitive and reactive child (often very

> intelligent and aware) the stomach is constantly assaulted by the

> heavy foods, which are the ordinary foods of their culture. Many

> have alternating constipation and diarrhea – they have sensitive

> stomachs that often rebel against foods and drinks – they may often

> feel nauseous – eating heavy meals causes them distress – eating

> fatty foods distresses them – eating very cold foods causes

> problems - they may often have gas – they may have cramps - etc.

> Many theorists trace the true evolution of these diseases to these

> digestive disorders, which start the process of Spleen dampness,

> which is a core issue in these disorders.

>

> Once this process of dampness in the Spleen starts digestive

> disorders begin – Qi is not separated properly from the turbid (the

> waste part of food) and the Blood becomes polluted by these absorbed

> toxins – this poor blood puts tremendous stress on the Kidneys which

> are responsible for dealing with these growing problems in the

> Center and the Blood – if there is inherited weakness in the

> Kidneys – which there frequently is - remember that many of these

> people are born with greater or lesser degrees of Adrenal stress –

> then the blood goes under more stress and the Liver instead of being

> righteously nourished by the Kidneys will be stressed by the arrival

> of this polluted blood and the weakened condition of the Kidneys –

> adrenal hormones will become more imbalanced as the Liver becomes

> more stagnant and water logged itself – acids begin to build up in

> the body because they are not being sufficiently transformed and

> eliminated – phlegm develops (many of these children have a series

> of infections and fevers in childhood) – the immunity weakens

> further – the individual develops lethargy which creates more

> stagnation and this slowing down of the many processes becomes a

> true hypometabolic disorder – oxygenation of the blood becomes

> compromised because of the build up of toxins – at this stage one

> may develop personality and affect problems. Insomnia may develop or

> sleep disorders such as not being able to stay awake for most of the

> day (one has seen individuals who sleep 18 hours a day) If one faces

> severe stressors while already overextended then the Adrenal system

> may become exhausted and one will be sliding into full fledged

> affective diseases such as depressive and or manic disorders – and

> exhaustive states such as FM and CFS. As these processes proceed the

> individual may become Agoraphobic and become house bound because of

> fatigue and a feeling of social inadequacy. For the hyperactive

> types perhaps they are acting out their stress states in society

> creating problems for themselves and others – extremely over heated

> individuals may become argumentative, irritable, and even violent.

>

> There will be multiple hormonal and brain chemical imbalances.

> Enzyme systems throughout the body will be slow, sluggish, and or

> nonfunctional. Blood PH will be acidic and temperatures will be

> reduced.

>

> These descriptions are simply highlights because these types of

> breakdown occur in millions of different ways. In fact if we look

> at the full implications of this disease process and the many paths

> it can take we will have within this single category of those born

> with `former heaven natural development insufficiency' a major

> percentage of the pathological states that human beings develop. But

> not all cases of exhaustion come from this cause many simply suffer

> a chronic or acute stress or series of stressors that eventually

> challenge them beyond their capacities.

>

> So we start at the Stomach/Spleen – Liver – Bob Flaws states that

> exhaustive states always have a Spleen/Liver disharmony which is

> easy to see - this is the primary realization of Li Dong Yuan –

> since there is both Yin and Yang insufficiency then we must support

> the Kidneys according to the balance of these deficiencies – and the

> underlying support for all of these issues will be achieved by

> improving the Blood functions.

>

> Many seem surprised that so many disparate disease patterns follow

> this Spleen – Blood – Kidney - Liver pathway but this is easily

> understandable since these are the foundation systems of proper

> metabolism – how we process the food and liquids in our diet – how

> we eliminate our toxins – and the means of transformation and

> transportation of the energy of the body – these systems are easily

> disturbed and when constantly stressed can end us in minumum

> functioning and premature and difficult ageing.

>

> Let me wrap up this cursory exploration of a very deep subject on a

> high note. Many people have recovered from these severe stress

> states and the genetic weaknesses have been supported to the extent

> that healing has occurred. I find that many who have had healing

> from this disease seem to thrive and experience a higher than

> average level of personal success. It seems that the trials and

> suffering these weakened conditions create, make the individuals

> stronger. Many of those who have truly recovered have come to a deep

> understanding of life simply because their experience of life has

> been so profound.

>

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , Nancy S+13 <nancy wrote:

>

> As I was reading this I could easily see my own history. So much of

what

> you wrote fits my experiences. Something I had not considered

before

was

> to look back at my mother's pregnancy. I know she had a very

stressful

> pregnancy. She was a newlywed living with an overbearing mother-in-

law

> that she didn't get along with. How fascinating to think that what

I'm

> experiencing now traces all the way back there.

>

> Nancy S+13

 

 

 

>

Hi, Vinod! Within that alarming cascade of conditions and hypo-

functioning body systems that you list in your reply to Nancy S+13,

you

said, " ...phlegm develops (many of these children have a series of

infections and fevers in childhood) - immunity weakens further... "

 

How does this square with the claim of Modern Western Medicine that

these infections & fevers are actually GOOD for the child's body -

that

they don't weaken immunity, but strengthen it? Apparently this has

been proved, so I'd like your opinion.

 

It seems to me that if there is some foul matter in the body that

needs

to be burnt off, that is good event - you don't want it piling up.

I

think even if you were born with a wonderfully strong constitution

from

an

unstressed gestation, these fevers are nevertheless inevitable, even

with a good, happy, relatively unstressed upbringing, c/w

breastfeeding

and a suitable diet for the child.

 

Also, it has been noted that after a fever-type illness, if it is

properly managed and not suppressed, sometimes the child (I have seen

this in my own) seems to enter a new phase in his/her development;

they

seem to have climbed a really steep stair during that fever. Kind of

like the TCM take on measles in childhood.

 

At any rate, since we are talking about the thyroid here, I have this

absolutely fascinating book, 85 pages in length, publ. 1940, by A

Sstudent of the Rosicrucian Fellowship, entitled The Mystery of the

Ductless Glands. It discusses the spiritual significance of the 7

ductless glands. I am still trying to figure out what " type " I am -

it's like an interesting little parlour game because the larger

aspect of all this, I don't quite get, it's a bit much for me. I

think that you, though, would

find this book most edifying (Big Word of the Day from Lu).

 

While I'm here, " they " say that all problems contain their own

solutions, so I keep this in mind as I see more and more highly

weakened folks, esp. the younger ones. - Lu B.