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Hi everyone,

 

I'm just learning acupressure, taking schooling for it and we are at

the point of learning the various techniques for pressure. My sister

suffers from carpal tunnel and was quite open to having me try some

acupressure on her. As it was a practice session for me, I tried the

three different methods we have been taught (Type A - Tonifying, Type

C - Reducing, & Type B - Even method) I was working on LI10; and when

using Type A at a light to medium pressure she didn't feel much. When

I switched to Type C she then reported mild discomfort, but said it

felt okay. Then I switched to the Type B method, and at first she

said it felt good, then it was slightly painful, then suddenly her

hand went limp at the wrist. The sensations she described at that

point were a numbness without tingling, cold to the touch on the

exterior skin, yet feeling heat and a sense of fullness inside her arm

just below the cubital crease. As well she reported her arm from

fingers to shoulder felt odd with some weakness and a bit of mild pain

in the shoulder region.

 

I followed this up with light kneading of Sanjiao (TH)3, L5, 7, PC 7,

6, 5, and H7, 6, 5, 4.

 

In a short time the numb feeling was gone, but the weakness took a bit

longer to shift.

 

Can anyone give me any explanation to what I may have done

incorrectly, or is what she was feeling encompassed in the 'arrival of

Qi'? In class we have just started discussing the sensations involved

in the arrival of qi, so I am not yet totally familiar with the whole

gamut of sensations that may be experienced.

 

I will ask my instructor about this, but in the meantime if any of you

can shed some light, I would appreciate it.

 

Thank you!

 

Carol

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , " featherpoint444 "

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm just learning acupressure, taking schooling for it and we are at

> the point of learning the various techniques for pressure.

 

> three different methods we have been taught (Type A - Tonifying, Type

> C - Reducing, & Type B - Even method)

 

Please go into detail on the pressure methods because there are a lot

of readers on here who are interested in acupressure.

 

Thanks.

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Hi Victoria,

 

I'm sorry I wasn't able to reply earlier. It's been a very busy week.

 

Since my original post I have found out that this experience wasn't

anything to do with the arrival of Qi. Rather it was due to my sister

having severe carpal tunnel so she is much more sensitive to pressure

than most of us would be.

 

In response to your questions about the techniques though, I will

describe them as best I can.

 

Type A is tonifying. It is done in a 10 second interval cycle, with

one being a light touch, 7 being the most pressure applied and 10

again a light touch. So, just counting to yourself, it's '1', press,

press, press (keep pressing down more) to '7', then starting to

release when you hit '8' and by the time you hit '10' returning back

to a light touch.

 

Type B is the even method which is for regulating rather than tonifying or

reducing. This is done in 3 second intervals with pressing lightly as

you count '1', press deeper as you count '2' and releasing when

you count '3'. It is done in a nice steady and slower rhythm.

 

Type C is for reducing. It is done in roughly 2 second intervals for

a cycle of 10 seconds and is simply a pulsing motion. So it is press

release, press release in quick succession so you are applying roughly

5 'pulses' for every 10 seconds.

 

In the west we are taught counting seconds as 'one thousand and one,

one thousand and two' etc. In acupressure counting is simply, 1, 2,

3, 1 ,2 3, etc.

 

In acupressure the methods of touch are:

 

Touch: very light, barely pressing on the skin. Used for infants,

young children and elderly people.

 

Light Pressure: Slowly increased pressure. Will not be uncomfortable.

Used for those who are sensitive, children and elderly.

 

Medium Pressure: Is the optimum pressure for adults. This is a

slightly deeper feel to the pressure than what the 'light' is, but

should not be painful. This is the most common pressure applied.

 

Strong Pressure: Is a deep pressure which will be painful.

 

If you are working on someone who has not experienced acupressure

before, or who is very sensitive to pressure, you should start with

the touch, or light pressure before utilizing the medium pressure.

Strong pressure will only be used for individuals who are comfortable

with it.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Carol

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon "

<victoria_dragon wrote:

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> Please go into detail on the pressure methods because there are a lot

> of readers on here who are interested in acupressure.

>

> Thanks.

>

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<featherpoint444 wrote:

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> Type A is tonifying. It is done in a 10 second interval cycle,

with

> one being a light touch, 7 being the most pressure applied and 10

> again a light touch. So, just counting to yourself, it's '1',

press,

> press, press (keep pressing down more) to '7', then starting to

> release when you hit '8' and by the time you hit '10' returning

back

> to a light touch.

>

> Type B is the even method which is for regulating rather than

tonifying or

> reducing. This is done in 3 second intervals with pressing

lightly as

> you count '1', press deeper as you count '2' and releasing when

> you count '3'. It is done in a nice steady and slower rhythm.

>

> Type C is for reducing. It is done in roughly 2 second intervals

for

> a cycle of 10 seconds and is simply a pulsing motion. So it is

press

> release, press release in quick succession so you are applying

roughly

> 5 'pulses' for every 10 seconds.

 

Thanks for sharing. The question of how does one tonify, reduce, or

use an even method in acupressure is one that has come up on this

list more than once. I hope you will continue to share with the list.

 

BTW, I use Large Intestine 4 for a problem with colonic inertia.

Steady pressure on the point leaves a lot to be desired in terms of

its effectiveness. But lightly stroking the web of the hand from

the base of the thumb upward toward the knuckle under the index

finger works a lot better for me than steady pressure on the point

works. For someone else, steady pressure on the point might work

best. I need to experiment with the 3 methods you listed to see if

one works better than the other two.

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Hello Victoria,

I´ve been short on time and have just been catching up on the

posts. There is another thing about tonification and sedation:

press not more than one minute to tonify, and two or more to

sedate(until the paim disappears).

A good combination (acupressure or needles)for colonic inertia

would be St36, st37, st39(and working on and around st25).

 

May the Qi be with you,

Marcos

 

 

 

 

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon escreveu:

 

>> BTW, I use Large Intestine 4 for a problem with colonic

> inertia.

> Steady pressure on the point leaves a lot to be desired in

> terms of

> its effectiveness. But lightly stroking the web of the hand

> from

> the base of the thumb upward toward the knuckle under the index

>

> finger works a lot better for me than steady pressure on the

> point

> works. For someone else, steady pressure on the point might

> work

> best. I need to experiment with the 3 methods you listed to

> see if

> one works better than the other two.

>

>

>

 

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , marcos <ishk18 wrote:

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> There is another thing about tonification and sedation:

> press not more than one minute to tonify, and two or more to

> sedate(until the paim disappears).

> A good combination (acupressure or needles)for colonic inertia

> would be St36, st37, st39(and working on and around st25).

 

Thanks Marcos.

 

Even though LI 4 (Large Intestine 4)helps, I've been needing something

more.

 

Since new people constantly are coming on the list, and some of them

are new to TCM, a reminder that LI 4 is contraindicated for pregnant

women because it can bring on premature labor.

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