Question about Shen Jie Pai Shi Wan herbal formulation

[Guest guest]

Does it list the ingredients on the bottle? Pai Shi Wan is roughly expel stone

pill. Not familiar with the Shen Jie... It may be an off brand or from a small

company. Looking at the general herbs used in this type of formula I would not

expect a raise in Bp but feeling lousy is definately possible. Also you may

experience loose stools and dull headaches. If your symptoms are getting worse

you may have a kidney infection or a stuck stone, which might cause an increase

in Bp or more severe headache. I would expect to see very tender in mid back

under the floating ribs, pain on urination with a cloudy yellow stream. If stuck

stone reduced urine flow, yellow/red color fullness in abdomen and pain.

If it is not a reputable brand of herbs, there could be all kinds of issues in

relationship to the herbs.

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

 

mermaidknows <mermaidknows wrote:

Hello all.I thought I'd jump in right in an introduce myself.I'm not an

acupuncturist but a patient who's had a lot of success with being

treated with it.I live in the Tampa Bay area and see that fellow poster

Bob is also from this area.Is anyone familar with the herbal

formulation of Shen Jie Pai Shi Wan which is used to dissolve kidney

stones? Does anyone know if this particular formula can cause headaches

or raise someones blood pressure?I recently experienced both in a few

days time and stopped taking it till my next apointment.I took 5 pills

3 times per day for a few days and felt generally unwell on it. Any

info on this medicine would be appreciated.Mermaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Is anyone familar with the herbal

> formulation of Shen Jie Pai Shi Wan which is used to dissolve

kidney

> stones?

 

google: " Shen Jie Pai Shi Wan "

Rhizoma ALismatis

Radix Bupleuri

Herba Lysimachiae

Folium Pyrrosiae

Semen Plantaginis

Radix Cynanchi Paniculati

Caulis Lonicerae

Semen Vaccariae

Herba Dianthi

 

>Does anyone know if this particular formula can cause headaches

or raise someones blood pressure?

 

In a deficient body-constitution this recipe might

aggravate an existing deficiency as it contains

blood cooling (anti-infectious), diuretic, dredging herbs.

If the urin flow is blocked, dark yellow, bloody, scanty

this recipe makes sense.

In a chronic situation with recurrent stones stemming from

kidney(shen)-deficiency this recipe is contraindicated and

might lead to kidney(shen)-cold, aggravate the deficiency syndrome

by using up too much Qi and draining too many yin-fluids

leading to side effects you mentioned (qi/yin deficiency with qi-

deficiency headaches, yin deficiency HBP).

 

This is just a chinese medical theory how things *might* be,

your case might be different (reactions with other medicals you take,

ingredients you are allergic to etc etc).