Guilt, Sickness, & Healing

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Hi Victoria,

Around 142a.C., Chang Tao Ling organized a Taoistic Organization,

where, among other things, he cured people of guilt issues: he

asked the person that sought his help to write down all his sins

and failures, then, holding the paper on top of his head, he

walked slowly down a river, becoming free of all failures,

deficiencies and sicknessess.

A little later, around 170 a.C., another Taoist healer called

Chang Hsiu, also created an organization and taught a ceremonial

healing rituals where the patient would be closed up in a room

and would be asked to reflect upon the sins he had commited and

that originated his health problems. Then he wrote down his sins

in three pieces of paper that would be destroied in three

different ways: one would be left at the top of a mountain and

left there top be destroyed by the wind and rain, another was

buried and the third was thrown in a river, in this manner he

would be cured.

Later, the grandson of Chang tao Ling, Chang Lu, united the two

organizations and created a Taoist Teocracy in Szechuan, and his

descendants where for many centuries the hereditary heads; the

'Celestial Masters'.

 

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon escreveu:

 

>Sometimes guilt will play a role in sickness and a role in

> preventing healing. I'm not talking about legitimate pangs of

> conscience which people should feel so they stop doing wrong

> things

> that are hurtful to themselves as well as to others. I'm

> talking

> about the kind of artificial guilt that some not very nice,

> power-

> mad, control-freak people condition into their victims in order

> to

> destroy them and rob them of normal and healthy independence.

>

> If it's normal, healthy pangs of conscience, the bad feelings

> will

> be associated ONLY with something specific that the person

> really

> has done or failed to do as the case may be. Also, the person

> will

> know the bad feelings are due to something specific that the

> person

> has done or failed to do and needs to change and possibly make

> restitution for. (These are general remarks; there are

> exceptions.)

>

> In the case of conditioned, artificial guilt, the person feels

> undeserving of anything good, and that includes healing. Every

> time

> something good happens to the person, the person automatically

> feels " I don't deserve this " . The actual thought " I don't

> deserve

> this goodness " may even intrude into the person's thoughts.

> This is

> a conditioned response - like Pavlov's dogs automatically

> salivating

> at the sound of a bell. It's something that some not very nice

> people - abusers and exploiters - do to their victims by

> constantly

> belittling them, making fun of them, telling them that they are

>

> totally bad, etc.

>

> I don't know how TCM deals with situations in which guilt is

> blocking healing. (And blocking the person's enjoyment of

> life.) I

> do know that trying to suppress the feeling and insisting that

> one

> shouldn't feel that way not only does not work, it can increase

> the

> feelings of worthlessness. What sometimes works (partially) is

> to

> allow oneself to feel the feeling instead of blocking it and

> asking, " Why am I feeling this? " The person often will realize

> by

> consciously rememberomg the abuser/ exploiter conditioning

> these

> feelings into the person.

>

> Knowing why one has the artificial guilt is only part of the

> solution. For some people, recognizing that the guilt is

> artificial

> and was conditioned into them is then followed up by prayers

> for

> help in setting aside this negative conditioning. Other people

>

> require something stronger. Some sort of psycho-drama that

> involves

> cleansing images. For example, a ritual bath or baptism or

> sprinkling of water by a priet/ess. These healing techniques

> are not

> limited to Christianity but are found in religions from around

> the

> world. For example, Huna makes even more use of images and

> healing

> techniques like this than Christianity does. And explains why

> they

> work. Even people who are agnostic or atheist can benefit from

> psycho-drama.

>

> Sometimes having some legitimate reasons to feel guilty and

> change

> some things overlaps with artificial guilt. These cases can be

> particularly hard to treat, especially if they have progressed

> beyond a certain point. There are few things more

> soul-destroying

> than repeatedly ignoring others' suffering and making " deals

> with

> devils " that cause others to suffer. For example, the

> non-abusive

> parent that makes a deal with the abusive parent (the " devil " )

> that

> she or he will ignore what the abuser is doing to the child as

> long

> as the abuser isn't abusing the enabler while abusing the

> child.

>

> Sometimes the enabling parent is someone who has already been

> conditioned with artificial guilt by her or his abusive parent.

> In

> these cases, the legitimate guilt of not protecting the child

> is

> then added on top of the artificial guilt, making the person

> feel

> even more worthless. Sometimes the person just doesn't care

> about

> the child (or anyone else).

>

> In cases where legitimate guilt is added on top of artificial

> guilt,

> if the person does not take steps to break the cycle - by

> finding

> the strength and courage to do what is correct in the case of

> the

> legitimate guilt and to confront and neutralize the artificial

> guilt - eventually the person gets to a point where s/he feels

> s/he

> is totally beyond redemption and forgiveness, and wants only

> annihilation. Obviously such a person more than likely will

> refuse

> offers of healing help.

>

> Keep in mind that this psycho-spiritual deterioration isn't

> happening in a vacuum. At the same time that the psyche and

> spirit

> is deteriorating, the physical also is deteriorating. The

> physical

> health problems make it more difficult for the person to deal

> with

> the psycho-spiritual aspects of healing. Patients/ clients

> should

> never be fobbed off with " it's psychological " or " it's

> spiritual " .

> In some cases a psychologist and/or spiritual healer may need

> to be

> called in, but the healer needs to treat imbalances via

> physical

> means. Very often, when a person gets some physical relief (it

> doesn't have to be complete at first - just some physical

> relief),

> the person is more likely to benefit from counseling. A person

> who

> is no longer in servere physical pain or as physically weak as

> the

> person once was is going to feel more like tackling

> psycho-spiritual

> issues than the person who has not gotten physical help.

>

>

>

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